SuperSonicSound
Shadowmancer of the Shadow Cabal
The deceiver let us pull off something utterly impossible tbh. It allowed us to trick the language out of a skaven patriot.
Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
- Thread starter Boney
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The deceiver let us pull off something utterly impossible tbh. It allowed us to trick the language out of a skaven patriot.
chocolote12
A Penguin Flailing Against The Keyboard Of Life.
One (1) Headpat, verbal medium, highest quality.
That's not really how accolades for hero units work. When situations turn on the efforts of individual people, it's kind of weird to say that their boss gets the credit just because they hired that one person.
He might get more prestige as a governor because we're with him and he was smart to hire us, but headpats are and should remain non-transferable, if that makes sense?
Nah, it helped. Maybe a lot, maybe a little, but good old fashioned lying could've done the trick. Or just more time. The coins got way more than that in it.
For saving 300 dwarfs? That's ridiculous.
Get some actual headpats going, or go home in shame. It's not like Mathilde is too tall to reach.
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Guile
Having a really great time right now
Plus, conflicted votes often make it into Mathilde's mental monologue in a 'considered doing X but went with Y because Z' sort of way.
- Location
- Brazil
It's going to be a hell of an introduction for the Protector, that's for sure.
Guile
Having a really great time right now
If it doesn't, Protector will never be chosen again, so I hope so.
It's taken us like 5 years to give it a test drive.
Omegahugger
Inattentive Idiot
Isn't that actually kinda fast by Mathilde standards?
- Location
- Earth
I tend to do better with a visual aide, so here's an unofficial map if anybody's wondering where exactly this is supposed to be taking place.
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I tend to do better with a visual aide, so here's an unofficial map if anybody's wondering where exactly this is supposed to be taking place.
Huh, really? Weird that our gyrocopter did not go to KaK first then, they have a bigger airforce and could have been at the site of the attack sooner.
- Location
- Earth
My understanding is that Barak Varr was closer than KaK. So the gyro went to Barak Varr first, then returned to us, while Barak Varr dispatched their navy and also sent word to KaK.
We'd have the same amount of favor but Belegar would feel more indebted to us? idk but that's how I kinda see it going if we try and do that.
- Location
- Utrecht
KaK does not have a navy, so while the airforce would have gotten there faster, they wouldn't have been able to do much. That makes Barak Varr the best option. And once you're at Barak Varr, K8P is just as close to KaK.
I think the best option is to let Belegar spin it the way he thinks is best. If we try to spin it so he looks better than he thinks he should, we might make the debt problem worse.
- Location
- Greece
Honestly, I still think that if we keep going like this, we may be causing a schism, inadvertedly, by the end of this quest, when a number of Dawi radicals decide Mathilde has saved Karaz Ankor as much, if not more than the Ancestors ever did and so should be worshipped, angering everyone else because she is obviously not an Ancestor. Like, at this rate, we will become more synonymous with deus ex machina for dawi than the White Dwarf.
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Assuming Mathilde lives long enough for a dwarf to grow a proper beard! Otherwise we may just come and go too quickly to be of such earth shattering note.
- Location
- Utrecht
4000 years is a long way to catch up... But 800000 orcs and a reclaimed hold do come quite far.
- Location
- Greece
I do not think we will do it as we are now. But if we keep performing regular legendary feats for 10 or 20 years....
I don't think it's transferable in the first place. Dwarf favor is the obligation of the Karaz Ankor towards someone. It must be fullfilled, just as grudges must be avenged. I think transferring favor only happens under circumstances where there is on other possibilities (mainly, the orginal recipient died), just as grudges are only transferred if avenging it on the original target is no longer possible.
I rather doubt she'll ever match the Ancestors, but I can totally see a major faction deciding to follow Cython's interpretation, ie the Ancestor Gods core virtue is adapting to the world for the good of the dwarfs. Everybody else has been emulating the improperly ever since. Mathilde meanwhile might become something like a legendary hero who will come at the worst times (like King Arthur, just without the King bit. And yes, the worst times).
- Location
- Greece
Which may anger the other legendary figure that is supposed to come at worst times by encroaching on his domain...
- Location
- being near locations is my passion.
And even if she was, he should smith a stepladder!
But yes, headpats communicating "you did good thing" are (by me) borderline expected. I uh... dunno if I mean that as metaphor or literally.
- Location
- Greece
I mean, think of it that way... if we keep going like that, in a few centuries every Dawi will have at least one Ancestor that owes their life to Mathilde....
Omegahugger
Inattentive Idiot
That assumes that Kragg is capable of dying, which I am not yet entirely convinced of.
- Location
- Greece
*Every Dawi not alive at Mathilde's time.
No no, he comes at the times when things are most dire for the dwarfs. Mathilde comes at the worst times. You're having a nice evening braiding you're beard, and she strolls in with an artifact of unquestionable power but very questionable sanity. You're preparing for your glorious last stand, and she rides in, and a series of incomprehensible but undwarfly happenings later, you are saved and you're enemies have had terrible things happen to them. You just opened a keg of Bugmans? She's there, and now you have to offer her a mug out of politeness.
Mathilde comes at the worst times
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Not a Dog
- Location
- The Malleary
I know you didnt mean literally but even figuratively the pop of Dwarves isnt THAT small for several clans to own her. We can at least be reasonable sure the descendants of Marienburg's dwarves won't.
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