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So that's how they got an actual mono-wind environment! I always figured that it was just almost entirely mono-wind achieved by ludicrous fung shui and careful construction, but no, it's there's literally only Ulgu here. Neat.

That does raise the likelihood that the other colleges also live in extradimensional spaces, though they don't have anything even sort of like the justification for it that the Grey College does.

...Huh. We built the Rooms of Calamity inside the borders of each College, right? I wonder if Thorek noticed what was going on while he was in there.
 
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Hmm if we're going into hell, how would we lose our companions, Jurassic Park or Aliens style?
mmm...Jurassic park initially, but more the Thing as time goes on. If the bloodthirster is a thing then we get to go fully friday the 13th.

Edit: Also me thinks that +10 martial vs enraged opponents or when holding choke points maybe about to become very relevant.
 
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I just want to note that Mathilde also doesn't have that much experience when it comes to parenting. She sure as hell won't use her own parents as a guiding light and after that her apprenticeship with Regimand wasn't that orthodox either. She definitely didn't have the kind of leisurely and low responsibility childhood we are used to when she herself was 10. Also, remember how she compared little prince Mandred to Wolf?

I'm not saying I'm against the idea. I just want to dampen the expectations of anyone who thinks Mathilde will magically be able to "give Eike what she's missing".
That's a fair point, and perhaps parenting isn't the proper term for what Mathilde can offer Eike. She can however, become a wise mentor and close confidant for Eike when she gets frustrated by Wilhelmina's controlling/dominating influence. It would provide a healthy outlet for Eike to honestly express herself without judgement for who she is or wants to be, without a burden on her shoulders to fill the shoes Wilhelmina wants her to. To be encouraged to grow into her own person.

And we have plenty of examples of Mathilde doing such with the Ducklings, prominently with Hubert:
For a moment you think you might have pushed him a bit too far, but after a long moment he looks down at his hands as lightning crackles along his knuckles. "I never wanted to be a Wizard of the Celestial Order," he says quietly. "But I find I've liked being a Wizard of Karak Eight Peaks."

You smile, and reach out and ruffle his hair. "If that's what you want to be, that's what you can keep being. You've got it in you to achieve greatness whatever path you end up taking, but not if you never pick a path."
I would like this kind of uplifting scene to happen, both because Eike is an important partner and also because we should help when the opportunity presents itself. Mathilde might not have had a pleasant family past, but that doesn't mean her lack of experience prevents her from trying to help other kids if she could.


You consider this as an avenue to ask about the Damsels, but decide against it as you've heard that Bretonnians are touchy about them. "How fare the Undumgi?" you venture instead.

...
The two of you speak a while longer, and you find yourself impressed by how seriously she is taking her new role. From her words, it seems she has taken personal responsibility for the safety of all travel east of Death's Crossing and west of the Badlands. More generally, you're reminded that though she joined the Expedition as a vagabond warrior, she was raised and educated amongst Bretonnia's nobility. She seems as skilled an orator as she is a swordswoman, and you've no doubt she could be quite charming and convincing if she wanted to be. Part of you is uneasy that you don't have a good grasp of her motivations - she seeks the Grail, and you know little enough of what that means normally, let alone what it means when the seeker is quite happy to play games with the exact wording of the Grail Vow.
While we're discussing cool new stuff to research like the new Shadowrealm, intermingling Divine Portfolios (Karnos-Taal cult) or Theurgy (hopefully people haven't given up on it yet), I want to remind those interested that we have a Bretonnian native in K8P that we can take Social actions with to learn more about Damsels, the Holy Grail and the Lady of the Lake.

I think Soizic presents another opportunity for Boney to showcase his compelling ability to write cross-sections of other cultures and his personal take of Bretonnia, which I've wanted to see since Carcassonne became interested in the Dwarves from the December vote. Furthermore, from the one scene we saw with her, she sounds like a character with truly unique perspective and philosophy that once revealed will get us hooked on learning more of her life experience.

I mean c'mon she's a noblewoman from Bretonnia who tried to break traditional convention by pretending to be a male Knight, she has a flexible enough mindset to adapt her Grail Vow despite being exiled, and still maintains a moral duty to defend people despite all her setbacks. I feel like she's underrated despite all the plotlines she presents, considering Mathilde's Xenophile Trait.


A Journeywoman dating a Lady Magister...
Pan technically qualifies as a Magister already, since she can get promoted whenever she has free time so it's less unbalanced than it initially seems. On that note, I was doing some rereading and found it quite endearing how the Pan's grown more confident and comfortable being around Mathilde, especially since she was apparently shy regarding matters of intimacy:
"Okay, leave him alone," you say, and Hubert is foolish enough to shoot you a grateful look. "Whatever form of dismounted swordplay he practices with the General is between him and her." Gretel and Adela dissolve into laughter, and Max and Johann are both fighting back grins. Panoramia, to your surprise, is blushing almost as much as poor Hubert. Weren't Jades supposed to be more worldly?
She sighs, and then starts to unbutton her robes. "Anyway..."

You can feel your face heating up as a thousand risque scenarios rush through your head. "Uh, Panoramia, what- what?"

She looks at you oddly. "We're up here to swim, aren't we?"

Oh. Oh."I only had the hike and the view in mind," you say faintly, only mostly relieved. You should be looking away, but find yourself unable to as she shrugs off her robes. Even though the shift underneath doesn't reveal much more than her robes did, they were still her underthings. "I don't even know how to swim."

She smiles at you. "Didn't you learn to swim as a child? In a dam or a dew pond or something?"
Though, it was slightly surprising she initially felt flustered considering the Jade College apparently has its roots in a fertility cult. How Pan nonchalantly invites Mathilde to swim despite the awkwardness shows a degree of trust in opening themselves up to each other.



So it doesn't require whiskers or musk, and it doesn't dip above or below what human hears are capable of hearing,
Typo: hears -> ears
Ideally that will be when whatever emergency they were transformed for is dealt with, but I figured it they were rendered unconscious they're probably done for anyway."
Typo: figured it -> figured if
So with pride firmly swallowed, you make your way to Aldorf and enrol yourself in some of the foundational courses on practical diplomacy
...
Your question was confined to the inside of your mind and rhetorical besides, but the lecturer must have picked up in it anyway,
Typo: Aldorf -> Altdorf
Typo: picked up in it -> on it
Part of the upholstry of the chair springs to life
Typo: upholstry -> upholst(e)ry

The trial was postponed for Wilhelm III to go reconquer Marienburg, but they were allied with Ulthuan and things went devastatingly bad for the forces of the Empire. Wilhelm went 'wow okay point fucking made holy shit' and reopened the Colleges in 2430.

Official history records the Great Fire of Altdorf that burned the district surrounding the Bright College as happening in 2431, as part of an 'accident' when 'rebuilding' the College. It's probably for the best if you pretend to believe that.
Btw, @BoneyM what was the implication/hint as to why this 'accident' happened? Wilhelm III had just lifted the ban on magic so there should've been a tentative peace settling, so why would the Bright College cause a Great Fire to break out and potentially inflame tensions? (Pun intended.)
Just curious if you could enlighten us with more background knowledge, for those who aren't familiar with the WHFB franchise.
 
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Btw, @BoneyM what was the implication/hint as to why this 'accident' happened? Wilhelm III had just lifted the ban on magic so there should've been a tentative peace settling, so why would the Bright College cause a Great Fire to break out and potentially inflame tensions? (Pun intended.)
Just curious if you could enlighten us with more background knowledge, for those who aren't familiar with the WHFB franchise.

History records it as an accident after the sieges, rather than deliberately during them.
 
this is where the Pit of Shades opens into,
Huh. That kind of squashes the "dump vampire bones into the Pit to get rid of them" plan. Just creates litter on the Colleges front lawn.

I imagine that one of the Lord/Lady magisters have to go out occasionally and pick up any Vamp bones, unholy artifacts, or other assorted gribblies lies that survive being forcibly dropped into the realm.
 
Huh. That kind of squashes the "dump vampire bones into the Pit to get rid of them" plan. Just creates litter on the Colleges front lawn.

I imagine that one of the Lord/Lady magisters have to go out occasionally and pick up any Vamp bones, unholy artifacts, or other assorted gribblies lies that survive being forcibly dropped into the realm.
TBF, if there's anything in Warhammer that's "No save, just die", it's being dumped in the Grey College's backyard where Algard and company can take their sweet time murdering you.
 
Two random thoughts about this, the first being a reminder that we have attained this rank all while having the Liber Mortis in our possession and having read it.

The second is that Borek Quest is going to have an interesting reaction to the sudden new title, probably going to assume we were one from the start or something.
 
Huh. That kind of squashes the "dump vampire bones into the Pit to get rid of them" plan. Just creates litter on the Colleges front lawn.

I imagine that one of the Lord/Lady magisters have to go out occasionally and pick up any Vamp bones, unholy artifacts, or other assorted gribblies lies that survive being forcibly dropped into the realm.
We don't know how large this place is, or even if the concept of size has any meaning. Wherever they go I doubt they cause any trouble, otherwise Pit of Shades would be much less used since it would be merely delaying the problem of an enemy army as opposed to eliminating it.
 
The bubble that the College is in is an alteration of the barrier. Its natural state has a thickness of 'no', and makes air scream as it is crushed between reality and unreality.
 
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I wonder if we're high enough rank to go on that Elven vacation and for them to take us somewhat seriously?
 
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Apologies if these have already been answered...I hope not, but I imagine they probably have.

1. Are the Knights of Judgement (the Knightly order apparently allied with the Grey College) still around? Cause it feels like they would have been caught up in the whole...massive magical fuck up and either died in it or were disbanded afterwards by Dieter the dumbass and political pressure from the Grand Thelogenist (also I can't find em Lexicanum which makes me assume they're dead.)
2. I'm also assuming that on its lonesome a piece of crystal mist/grey powerstone can't really be used for much aside from being a spoopy paperweight? I had an idea of I dunno drawing a little bit of its power to supercharge spells, but I imagine that'd result in either a miscast or the entire thing destabilising and going boom!*
*Having just said that...its a dumb idea, but it'd be interesting to see what happens if one destabilises a power stone and if the resulting wind boom is similar to that of the Vitae. NOTE interesting, we should not do it, since that's a lotta uglu forced into a very small space.
3. That does remind me of an actual question though, I take it learning how small/concentrated it is possible to make a power stone falls undertaking a course on power stones? I'd assume it'd be knowledge one could look up, but first Wizards and second given that powerstones are the winds solidified I'd be surprised if concentration of wind/amount of physical space its squeezed into is rather important.
 
The bubble that the College is in is an alteration of the barrier. Its natural state has a thickness of 'no', and makes air scream as it is crushed.
Is the (metaphorical) reason that objects which have been caught in Substance of Shadow survive that they've been turned into shadows, which do not need thickness to exist?
 
I wonder if we're high enough rank to go on that Elven vacation and for them to take us somewhat seriously?
If I recall my WHFRPG1 (maybe 2?) book correctly we're at the level they expect their apprentices to be when they're ready to learn the real magic.

However, I also recall that is for a lord magister who are also very old etc. and that WHFRPG doesn't include battlemagics and so on.

A better answer would be, depends?

Do they approve of the colleges a la Anarsil so are willing to give the title the time of day based on that alone? Probably few, but if we can back up the title with deeds then I'd imagine many more would nod impressed (well an elfy nod, lets not get too insane here).

Deed of snuck around a bloodthirster is impressive to all, but the most assish Caledorian and so on.

At the end of the day any taking seriously will have to be filtered through the lense of elven pride, but thankfully our holiday is with the elves whose main measure of worth is "how many Druhhki scalpes can you collect" who I believe our college also has some good history with, what with our introductory internal monologue mentioning at least one (lord?) magister who managed to set up some massive internal bitchfighting in their nobility.
 
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@BoneyM

Apologies if these have already been answered...I hope not, but I imagine they probably have.

1. Are the Knights of Judgement (the Knightly order apparently allied with the Grey College) still around? Cause it feels like they would have been caught up in the whole...massive magical fuck up and either died in it or were disbanded afterwards by Dieter the dumbass and political pressure from the Grand Thelogenist (also I can't find em Lexicanum which makes me assume they're dead.)
2. I'm also assuming that on its lonesome a piece of crystal mist/grey powerstone can't really be used for much aside from being a spoopy paperweight? I had an idea of I dunno drawing a little bit of its power to supercharge spells, but I imagine that'd result in either a miscast or the entire thing destabilising and going boom!*
*Having just said that...its a dumb idea, but it'd be interesting to see what happens if one destabilises a power stone and if the resulting wind boom is similar to that of the Vitae. NOTE interesting, we should not do it, since that's a lotta uglu forced into a very small space.
3. That does remind me of an actual question though, I take it learning how small/concentrated it is possible to make a power stone falls undertaking a course on power stones? I'd assume it'd be knowledge one could look up, but first Wizards and second given that powerstones are the winds solidified I'd be surprised if concentration of wind/amount of physical space its squeezed into is rather important.

1. Mathilde hasn't heard of them outside of that, but Grey Order being the Grey Order, she doesn't think that can be used to draw any conclusions about whether it still exists or not.
2. It can be used to supercharge one spell, but it's expended in doing so.
3. It's always one strand of magic that's been compressed into matter. Theoretically, the size isn't supposed to vary. That Teclis had really big ones has caused a lot of grumbling from the College's magical theorists.

Is the (metaphorical) reason that objects which have been caught in Substance of Shadow survive that they've been turned into shadows, which do not need thickness to exist?

They're coated in the Wind of boundaries and edges, so they can exist within it. They're also not entirely immersed within the barrier, since they can still see and selectively interact with the world. But it's fragile enough for light to disrupt it, and when that happens you'll have a bad time if there's anything in the way of you popping back into reality.
 
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You know I would not exclude Lord Magister Grey knowing about the Glittering Realm and Gazul, I mean the Chaos Dwarfs in general would know and they would have little reason to guard the secrets of their untainted kin if pressed. Like say if Lord Magister Grey ever had the opportunity to do to one of them what we did to Querch. A Dawi Zhar would sooner give out the secrets of his enemies than his own I imagine.
 
1. Mathilde hasn't heard of them outside of that, but Grey Order being the Grey Order, she doesn't think that can be used to draw any conclusions about whether it still exists or not.
2. It can be used to supercharge one spell, but it's expended in doing so.
3. It's always one strand of magic that's been compressed into matter. Theoretically, the size isn't supposed to vary. That Teclis had really big ones has caused a lot of grumbling from the College's magical theorists.
1. You saying that gets me thinking that I wish we could ask other people about that aetheric servitor thing :p however, yeah fair nuff. Hopefully, they're still around since having that kind of support seems useful to a college.
2. Handy.
3. A strand of magic? Sigh. I'll save it for if and when we do the action to learn how to make em.

As for Teclis having big ones...shrug. Magic can theoretically do anything, even if as of yet we don't know how to do it. I can understand the grumbling, I just hope there isn't surprise.

A clarification for everyone (for myself) before I ask on the off chance nobody knows BoneyM, but the Miasma? As I recall the Miasma alters time in some fashion yes? But what I want to clarify (maybe because I'm an idiot or cause I just woke up) is whether this is actual time manipulation within the Miasma's zone of effect (so time runs slightly slower on this bit, faster in another, hundreds overlapping the same body) or if it just alters a person's perception of time?

The language implies the former as Mathilde specifically notes that elites are often trained to fight under the effects of altered perception of things including time, but I want to be sure.
 
A clarification for everyone (for myself) before I ask on the off chance nobody knows BoneyM, but the Miasma? As I recall the Miasma alters time in some fashion yes? But what I want to clarify (maybe because I'm an idiot or cause I just woke up) is whether this is actual time manipulation within the Miasma's zone of effect (so time runs slightly slower on this bit, faster in another, hundreds overlapping the same body) or if it just alters a person's perception of time?

The language implies the former as Mathilde specifically notes that elites are often trained to fight under the effects of altered perception of things including time, but I want to be sure.

Actual time manipulation.

"The secret behind it is that it doesn't actually affect the mind of those caught in it, which could be resisted by the strong-willed - it alters reality in such a way that to those inside it time runs just a little bit slower, indirectly slowing reaction speeds and disorienting even the most highly-trained of combatants. Many elite warriors train to be able to fight when in altered states, but you've never heard of any that have trained to fight effectively when the passage of time becomes a variable."
 
You know I would not exclude Lord Magister Grey knowing about the Glittering Realm and Gazul, I mean the Chaos Dwarfs in general would know and they would have little reason to guard the secrets of their untainted kin if pressed. Like say if Lord Magister Grey ever had the opportunity to do to one of them what we did to Querch. A Dawi Zhar would sooner give out the secrets of his enemies than his own I imagine.

Speaking of Lord Magister Grey and Qretch, i wonder if it would be a good idea to write to her about him in our testament before we go into the Chaos Wastes? Just so he has another patron who can further his ambitions to write papers slapping the Chaos Dwarves and perhaps even collaborate with him on the issue.

Qretch, comparing his experiences with Chaos Dwarves with LMGs: "A worthy-dangerous enemy has appeared." before crossing swords on the academic landscape.
 
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