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... vaguely related note: with this item, there'd be totally enough material to make a Total Warhammer 2 mod featuring Mathilde as a Legendary Hero for Clan Angrund and/or Stirland. She'd be a fighty Greatsword-wielding Grey Wizard who'd have a special mount (Shadowsteed, effectively a very fast dark horse), a unique weapon (Branulhune), regen (from the Seed), a unique enchanted item (the flask), big bonuses to casting MMM, Ranald's blessing (manifesting in reduced chance of miscast and increased chance of success on agent actions, probably), but on the downside she'd have to take a whole bunch of other skills before she could learn Battle Magics that aren't MMM.
The idea has been pitched! Post the first, post the second. @Sinsystems did it a while ago, though, before we got a lot of our swag and most bullshit stuff, and before we were officially affiliated with the restored polity of Karak Eight Peaks.
 
The idea has been pitched! Post the first, post the second. @Sinsystems did it a while ago, though, before we got a lot of our swag and most bullshit stuff, and before we were officially affiliated with the restored polity of Karak Eight Peaks.
Oh yes, I remember this one, now that you mention it... though it suggests Mathilde as a Legendary Lord, and that doesn't fit as easily, as she hasn't really led much, except briefly the Dwarfs... not to mention, adding a whole new faction is a lot more work for a modder than a Legendary Hero.

On a separate note, I wonder what the Grey College would think of our newest acquisition. It doesn't seem very stealthy, but on the other hand, it's what you need when stealth fails...
 
Oh yes, I remember this one, now that you mention it... though it suggests Mathilde as a Legendary Lord, and that doesn't fit as easily, as she hasn't really led much, except briefly the Dwarfs... not to mention, adding a whole new faction is a lot more work for a modder than a Legendary Hero.

On a separate note, I wonder what the Grey College would think of our newest acquisition. It doesn't seem very stealthy, but on the other hand, it's what you need when stealth fails...
Considering the head of the Grey College's battle mages is known for casting battle magic on people who ask about his name then running away laughing, I doubt they'll look on it harshly. At most, it'll be seen as a mild eccentricity.
 
On a separate note, I wonder what the Grey College would think of our newest acquisition. It doesn't seem very stealthy, but on the other hand, it's what you need when stealth fails...

We are probably (in)famous among the college as the loudest Grey Wizard living. Getting something to explode things with our sneeze is the natural progression to exploding things with our sword.
 
Only if absolutely have to. As much time as possible is spent avoiding even the dwarves we live with and instead spending as much time as possible either in the Empire or with Empire born characters.

So my answer isd, what dwarves do we regularly talk to? Look at the social turns. Look at how many dwarven councillors we chose to engage with. They're very few and far between. It's pretty much almost all Imperials, all the time.
They're not options most of the time...
 
We are probably (in)famous among the college as the loudest Grey Wizard living.
There is at least something to be said for the 'if an Eshin Sorcerer/Council of 13 Envoy/Warlord Clan dies in darkness and there's no-one alive who witnessed it, did it make a sound?' school of stealth.
I think there's at least some evidence Melkoth is (also) an adherent to that philosophy.
Then we also have the "look at my Tower of Hellfire Death! on the mountaintop, not at the Shadow Knife in my left hand" technique.
 
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There is at least something to be said for the 'if an Eshin Sorcerer/Council of 13 Envoy/Warlord Clan dies in darkness and there's no-one alive who witnessed it, did it make a sound?' school of stealth.
I think there's at least some evidence Melkoth is (also) an adherent to that philosophy.
Then we also have the "look at my Tower of Hellfire Death! on the mountaintop, not at the Shadow Knife in my left hand" technique.

And don't forget the elephantine school techniques :p
 
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On a separate note, I wonder what the Grey College would think of our newest acquisition. It doesn't seem very stealthy, but on the other hand, it's what you need when stealth fails...

The Grey college had something of a cafeteria buried within it's many, many twisting corridors, though at this time in the afternoon only a few senior apprentices and a few more perpetuals lounged about it's tables. It was quiet, the way the college liked it, and most were lazily turning the pages of books.

That didn't stop the newest face from entering at a run, smile eating half his face and eyes darting around to find a few curious faces looking up at him. (For he had a reputation, standing out even among the grey apprentices, for carrying the tastiest of rumors.) A momentary calculation flashed behind his eyes and he plopped himself down in front of a younger apprentice, who looked on wide-eyed but was known to be skilled in projecting a front of naiviety.

"Didja hear the latest? Magister Webber commissioned something BIG from the brights!"

"Oooooh, I saw her lecture! Wow, she's gearing up to kill an army? No, wait, can't she already do that? The lectures mentioned..."

"You're thinking of her tower! Big thing, I remember first wondering about it when a couple of the bigwigs came back and dwarves runes were all any of the seniors would talk about for *weeks*. But for her to be throwing around this much influence this openly... I heard someone asking about prices for dwarf-built FORTRESSES the other day... So that must mean she's worried. She thinks she's gonna need it..."

The two exchanged significant glances, then simultaneously turned to look out at the room; the room was, of course, trying very hard not to pretend like it had been listening with bated breath as the two considered throwing chum into the sharkpool that was the rest of the apprentice rumor-mill.

But then, from one of the larger corridors, a new commotion entered- a large, hefty boy on the edge of manhood, with his robes already strained around biceps and stomach.

"Hey everybody! Guess who's a journeyman now! Oi, you two! I think I've finally decided what to do on my journey! Magister Weber posted an open call for, get this, an expedition into the chaos wastes with dwarves and- I shit you not- Asarnil! I am going to the craziest place with the loudest Grey in dwarven Landships with a shitting dragon to keep us safe! How awesome is that! I swear, it'll be a cakewalk and the stories I'll have after! WOOHOOO!"

He reveled in the cheers and shouting, parading around the room to the congratulations and breathless jealousy of his former fellows, before settling in at a table in the middle, tales of dwarven treasures already dancing on tongues and the vow of poverty conveniently forgotten for the length of the daydreams.

The gossip leaned over to his cherubic friend.

"... ...do you think we should tell him?"
 
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We are probably (in)famous among the college as the loudest Grey Wizard living. Getting something to explode things with our sneeze is the natural progression to exploding things with our sword.
I would not assume we are the loudest of the Grey Wizards until we meet all 5 of the grey Battle Wizards.

lets remember that when we and them were at the same stage in our careers, e.g post-exam.

we shied away from the battle magic.

they all went 'YOLO!'
 
"Hey you two! I think I've finally decided what to do on my journey! Magister Weber posted an open call for, get this, an expedition into the chaos wastes with dwarves and- I shit you not- Arsanil! I am going to the craziest place with the loudest Grey in dwarven Landships with a shitting dragon to keep us safe! How awesome is that! I swear, it'll be a cakewalk and the stories I'll have after! WOOHOOO!"
Ah, yes, just another day on an SV quest.
 
- Extra Complications: Might be Depressed. not a good mental state going that far north.
Please don't say this.

Saying this results in BeepSmile desiring to accost Asarnil with huggles and therapy.

WHF, as a setting, does not lend itself to therapy.

(But yeah, I can totes see Asarnil being some level of depressed from what I have read of him so far.)
 
Please don't say this.

Saying this results in BeepSmile desiring to accost Asarnil with huggles and therapy.

WHF, as a setting, does not lend itself to therapy.

(But yeah, I can totes see Asarnil being some level of depressed from what I have read of him so far.)

I'm super curious what you would recommend as a positive life course for Arsanil going forwards, because I like what I've seen about broody elfboy, but I don't think trying to just push him into contact with other elves would be good, but I still think it's needed longer term.

How would you guide him, given the chance?
 
lets remember that when we and them were at the same stage in our careers, e.g post-exam.

we shied away from the battle magic.

they all went 'YOLO!'
Nah, fairly sure the career divergence happened earlier, before quest start really.
As I read it, trainee Battle Wizards go straight into their specialist training programme instead of Journeying, learning to cast Battle Magic straight away, at the cost of pretty much everything else. Battle Magic wasn't even an option for us until several years after graduation, no shying away was involved.
 
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I'm super curious what you would recommend as a positive life course for Arsanil going forwards, because I like what I've seen about broody elfboy, but I don't think trying to just push him into contact with other elves would be good, but I still think it's needed longer term.

How would you guide him, given the chance?
shit brah

i'm drunk
fuck if i know

like. uh. institute anarchism or something.


the ideals underlining that societal organisation tend to be based on "people's mental health and wellbeing is a good thing, actually" and "nice things and cuddles for all who want cuddles. also food, housing, medicine and maybe not having the planet be physically on fire"

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Nah, fairly sure the career divergence happened earlier, before quest start really.
As I read it, trainee Battle Wizards go straight into their specialist training programme instead of Journeying, learning to cast Battle Magic straight away, at the cost of pretty much everything else. Battle Magic wasn't even an option for us until several years after graduation, no shying away was involved.
Considering that the colleges started as military, there's probably a 'Battle Magic' course that lets someone spend two or three years working to get a trait that gives people who choose that route a full two or three re-rolls for miscasts or something borderline absurd like that.

People tend to get good a things that they want to get good at, if motivated.

And when that happens as a group, as part of an institution.... well, specialisation does have advantages
 
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Nah, fairly sure the career divergence happened earlier, before quest start really.
As I read it, trainee Battle Wizards go straight into their specialist training programme instead of Journeying, learning to cast Battle Magic straight away, at the cost of pretty much everything else. Battle Magic wasn't even an option for us until several years after graduation.
This is correct.
Battle Wizards give up their freedom in exchange for starting to learn Battle Magic when other students become Journeymen. Wizard Lord is about the level when someone has proven themselves enough that they don't need all those restrictions to be allowed the big boy toys. It's also the equivalent level when a Battle Wizard has proven themselves enough to have their restrictions relaxed - about one in five Wizard Lords are 'graduated' Battle Wizards instead of having gone through the normal Journeyman to Magister to Wizard Lord progression.
100 Journeymen, 25 Battle Wizards
50 Magisters, 5 Elite Battle Wizards
4 Wizard Lords, 1 'Graduated' Battle Wizard
 
I'm super curious what you would recommend as a positive life course for Arsanil going forwards, because I like what I've seen about broody elfboy, but I don't think trying to just push him into contact with other elves would be good, but I still think it's needed longer term.

How would you guide him, given the chance?
Might enquire if he's attempted to make friendly contact with the Lothern Laurelorn Elves, perhaps.

Battle Wizards- first time I noticed there isn't a 'trainee Battle Wizard' rank there. I wonder how many of say those in Sylvania right now are actually Journeymanling-equivalents?
 
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There is at least something to be said for the 'if an Eshin Sorcerer/Council of 13 Envoy/Warlord Clan dies in darkness and there's no-one alive who witnessed it, did it make a sound?' school of stealth.
I think there's at least some evidence Melkoth is (also) an adherent to that philosophy.
Then we also have the "look at my Tower of Hellfire Death! on the mountaintop, not at the Shadow Knife in my left hand" technique.


Its the wind of boundaries.
You either shank someone with no one hearing or the entire city hearing it.
No middle ground for Mathilde school of assassination.
 
Kinda wondering if I should bulk that last out to a proper omake, or just leave it quipy. Feeling lazy honestly, so we'll see.
 
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