SuperSonicSound
Shadowmancer of the Shadow Cabal
Both Regimand and Melkoth have decades of experience on Mathilde I expect both could assist with any of our magical projects.
Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
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Also, let's be honest here.
If it comes down to the old 'who is sleeping on the sofa' stand off between a Mathy, a Lord Wizard and Mathy's own master... she might as well just hide her porn stack now and set up the waiting room now.
Because in that list, Mathy is still the kid.
And the kid gets the sofa.
Edit: also, Regimand and Kragg having a good grumble about Mathy infront of her will be great.
Or him telling stories about all the stupid stuff she did during her training to her peers in the council and the king.
Because like all master, she will always be a journeymanling in his eyes, and all journeymanling need a good wack in the ego every so often
If it comes down to the old 'who is sleeping on the sofa' stand off between a Mathy, a Lord Wizard and Mathy's own master... she might as well just hide her porn stack now and set up the waiting room now.
Because in that list, Mathy is still the kid.
And the kid gets the sofa.
Edit: also, Regimand and Kragg having a good grumble about Mathy infront of her will be great.
Or him telling stories about all the stupid stuff she did during her training to her peers in the council and the king.
Because like all master, she will always be a journeymanling in his eyes, and all journeymanling need a good wack in the ego every so often
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- Finland
Yes, they could, but would the?.
Are people assuming they will provide a mechanical bonus without us paying for it?
Because that was my understanding of the mechanical synergy mentioned.
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- Russia
Regimand doesn't seem to be an expert on the deep mysteries of magic. He is more practical sort of Grey Wizard - infiltration, assassination, all that jazz. Not R&D and enchantments and megaprojects.
NSMS
Probably evil, unfortunately.
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- A rapidly widening tear in the fabric of reality
And Melkoth seems mostly about throwing tons of Ulgu at problems until they wander off in a confused daze.
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- New Brunswick, NJ
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- He/Him/His
Sevir covers the theory of Arcane Marks in general, specific Winds for specific Winds' Marks. We've got Esoteric Imperial in both Sevir and Ulgu.
This needs to be a social turn option. "I'd like you to meet my former Master" seems like something with weight in dwarf culture.
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chocolote12
A Penguin Flailing Against The Keyboard Of Life.
Regimand is an incredible operator, which is why we brought him up for Assassination; he might not have the highest Soul Level, so to speak, but he's really experienced at actually playing the game. He's the guy we're calling to learn how to do backstabs better.
Melkoth has a Soul Level 300 roleplay build; he's got even more experience than Regimand, but it's all in how to have the most fun messing around with the game's magic system rather than actually getting all the intrigue missions done. He's the guy we're calling in order to figure out a new item glitch that can let us shoot Chaos Bed Vestiges like throwing knives, so to speak.
Both of them will want to help us get better at the game because it's a constant Co-op, and they need every higher level character they can get (and they're also getting payed for the entire six months). It's their specialties that are the limitations, not their billable hours.
Melkoth has a Soul Level 300 roleplay build; he's got even more experience than Regimand, but it's all in how to have the most fun messing around with the game's magic system rather than actually getting all the intrigue missions done. He's the guy we're calling in order to figure out a new item glitch that can let us shoot Chaos Bed Vestiges like throwing knives, so to speak.
Both of them will want to help us get better at the game because it's a constant Co-op, and they need every higher level character they can get (and they're also getting payed for the entire six months). It's their specialties that are the limitations, not their billable hours.
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- Not here. Maybe on SB.
Thank you very much!
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- Brazil
Not only does Regimand feel like he has massive respect for Mathilde, but you stop being a kid the moment you get Great Deeds.
Also, this isn't the College. This is Karak Eight Peaks, and Mathilde is the Loremaster.
She is no journeymanling to be told to sleep in the couch on her own penthouse, whose previous owner, an Orc Warboss, she killed personally. Much less ordered about like a journeyman in her own Karak.
To say nothing that Grey wizards would never puncture each other's aura of mystery in public.
Counterpoint: The 'sofa' in question is a dragon skull reading chair with in-built curtains and recliner function.
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Regimand and Thorek swapping apprentice tales while Mathilde and one of Thorek's graduated apprentices, now a several hundred year old runesmith of great renown, listen in silent horror.
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whoever tries to keep Mathilde from her bed has to deal with Wolf.
and Wolf has all the time in the world
SuperSonicSound
Shadowmancer of the Shadow Cabal
I would hesitate to say categorically what our master is given how little we genuinely know about him. I'm pretty sure if you'd asked people what he was capable of back when we were the spymaster of stirland people wouldn't have said he'd be able to do the assasination work he did. All I'm saying is don't assume there isn't more to him. You might be right but I suspect there is more.
The man is over a hundred years old per word of BoneyM, I'm very very sure there's more to him than just "lol BM" all I'm saying is don't be surprised if it turns out that they've a lot more insight to share in what we might want to do than we suspect. Certainly Melkoth being a 100 year battle wizard is likely to have a shit load of deeper insight into Ulgu, the real question is how much of it he can realistically share given how personal insight into magic becomes with the way the Colleges do magic.
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- Utrecht
The fact that can actually say "lol BM" actually says a lot about his insight into Ulgu
SuperSonicSound
Shadowmancer of the Shadow Cabal
I must admit I'm really looking forward to Melkoth teaching us and frankly I'm even sort of okay with losing the vote because I'm just so excited to see what we learn from him, MMM is one part of it but I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't try and teach us more than that I just hope Mathilde is compatible enough with him to be able to understand his insights.
chocolote12
A Penguin Flailing Against The Keyboard Of Life.
I mean, yeah. 'lol battle magic' isn't a restrictive definition of his capabilities, it's a very broad and intimidating one.
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What if we got a bunch of Hysh wizards to cast a super time warp on a swamp?
Ekzentric Lohner
I miss Wildstar...
I'm going to once again point out [X] Plan K9 Paranoid Battlemagic Assassin to the no-coins voters - it has all the same things as [X] Plan: Assassin Battlemagic Edition v2 + Proper Security Measures, except that it uses this turn's Duckling action to recruit Hubert and the Winter Wolves instead of the Ambers and the Knights of Taal's Fury.
There seems to be a pretty strong consensus that we'll recruit both groups, so recruiting the group with the wizard likely to need more prep time first seems wise.
At least approval-vote it - it may yet catch up with the current no-coin vote.
In an ideal world, we'd do both actions - that way, in the unlikely event that a (non-Skaven, non-undead) heir to one of the vaults turned up with proof that they owned one of the old vaults, Belegar could "discover" documentation of exactly what was in them and provide equivalent amounts of whatever precious metal was in there, while already having more money than he would have gotten from simply melting the coins down due to some of them having been quietly sold off for more than their material value.
There seems to be a pretty strong consensus that we'll recruit both groups, so recruiting the group with the wizard likely to need more prep time first seems wise.
At least approval-vote it - it may yet catch up with the current no-coin vote.
The EIC action is not the same as the full one, and not just in where the physical coins end up. The half-action does not result in a complete historical record, even if you reassemble the bits scattered among all the different collectors the coins are sold to. Mathilde can't delegate going through the vault, she can only delegate selling things - she needs the full action to make a comprehensive record of the history those coins represent.
In an ideal world, we'd do both actions - that way, in the unlikely event that a (non-Skaven, non-undead) heir to one of the vaults turned up with proof that they owned one of the old vaults, Belegar could "discover" documentation of exactly what was in them and provide equivalent amounts of whatever precious metal was in there, while already having more money than he would have gotten from simply melting the coins down due to some of them having been quietly sold off for more than their material value.
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Mopman43
Mountain-Hermit of Nitpeak
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- Vermont
Regarding the talk about fossil fuels, there's definitely references in books to coal existing (the entry on the Chaos Dwarf train specifically says it's powered by coal, for example) but I'd put that down to the inconsistency of canon and authors not realizing the implications of the planet being mostly ice until 15,000 years ago.
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Possible counterpoint:
As a local, Hubert is already aware that the Expedition is a thing, and from what we've seen of his character he already spends time training his swordsmanship and magic.
Esbern and Seija are much less likely to be considering a possible trip north, and could benefit more from being made aware earlier.
Edit: quote got eaten somehow.
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I'm still not sold on recruiting Esbern and Seija at all, myself. I'd rather have the Field Wardens, maybe.
I'm not even sure why Esbern and Seija are a "Duckling" action. They don't live near K8P and we' haven't seen them in a couple of years. They have nothing to do with the K8P wizards club.
While I think Boney will let us vote for Pan and the Field Wardens, I think it would be very out of character for them to sign up. characters in this quest have their own agendas after all.
Pan and the Halflings have been constantly depicted as very content with their lot in life right now, a trip to hell doesn't seem to be something either group will be gun-ho about joining.
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"What if they say no" can be applied to any recruitment action we go for. And the worst that could happen is that they say no, which I don't find as a compelling reason not to ask.
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Pan also likes killing fools by growing thorny vines in their blood veins. I think she might come based on a dice roll same as most of our other picks.