Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
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The politics student in me is sensing something off about this, but im not sure what it is.
I would really like to be about to keep the Eshin stuff, but overall I'm not pushed to keep the rest.
@BoneyM in light of the warning we got just a update ago.
[ ] Outfit the K8Ps gunnery school with the best equipment, texts and tools they can.
I would really like to be about to keep the Eshin stuff, but overall I'm not pushed to keep the rest.
@BoneyM in light of the warning we got just a update ago.
[ ] Outfit the K8Ps gunnery school with the best equipment, texts and tools they can.
being kept in the loop is automatic I'm pretty sure.
- Location
- Austria
If he refuses, we can just go to Thorek again.
I do really feel like we're doomed to be harshly undersold here, (or told to bugger off for asking hugely too much); the uncertainty of the value of our hoard, of how much Feldmann is willing to negotiate wrt. his comparative position of power, it all feels like we'll walk away with him thinking we're a fool or a miser.
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- New Brunswick, NJ
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chocolote12
A Penguin Flailing Against The Keyboard Of Life.
I know you have certain preferences about certain artifacts that we'd like to keep, and I can sympathize with that, but do you really think Boney would allow that? It's a gameplay limitation.
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- Africa
how many of these are we allowed to pick ?
chocolote12
A Penguin Flailing Against The Keyboard Of Life.
I explicitly went out of my way to confirm that this wasn't the case, in order to head off this specific argument.
You might think that we wouldn't want or use the secrets of Thought, in which case fair enough, but they're not a trap or anything.
Do you suppose they could get Eight Peaks someone who can weave some silk? Money can't solve all of Belegar's problems, but maybe that's just because we haven't tried hard enough yet.
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- Before the Ninth Gate
Oh! I thought that was in regards to the waystones.
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- Actually pretty lost
Oh wow. Guys. Guys. Independent minds.
How many enchanting ideas have been shot down because making a construct capable of interpreting data or making decisions is daemonsmithing?
If we can replace "daemons" with whatever these are, this could be huge.
How many enchanting ideas have been shot down because making a construct capable of interpreting data or making decisions is daemonsmithing?
If we can replace "daemons" with whatever these are, this could be huge.
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Next to nothing. Chamon doesn't interact with them, and the Alchemical view of 'elements' is incompatible with them.
While that's a valid IC interpretation, the OOC one is that it would be an absolute nightmare to try to manage a debate on the comparable abstract value of various things.
Yes.
Possibly. The Gold Order is very good at boiling abstracts down to solid data points.
No.
He isn't interested in cast-offs.
One major difference is that alchemy is canon.
It isn't a dead end.
If she'd accomplished it all with Runesmithing instead of Wizardry, he'd probably be considering it.
Head Wizard of Karak Eight Peaks.
Adding.
Choosing two things gets you half as much of both.
we can pick as many as we want, and the effort the golds would put in will be divided between the choices.
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- Before the Ninth Gate
We could have a staff that talks back to us!
Strange9
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- Los Angeles, CA
The thing I'm really most interested in purchasing from this is time (or, more accurately, AP). That's why I really like the Sevirscope option: it trades word count of what is likely a decently long research chain that we may never get around to (given perma-AP hell) for word count of Kragg and Thorek, which I really really enjoy every time we get some.
In universe, it also has the benefit of getting immediate benefits for both the empire (faster skaven artifact results) and the dwarves (can actually research Bok, gives Runelords a whole new tool immediately after having given them AV).
In universe, it also has the benefit of getting immediate benefits for both the empire (faster skaven artifact results) and the dwarves (can actually research Bok, gives Runelords a whole new tool immediately after having given them AV).
TaliesinSkye
Occasional Editor
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- Northeast Ohio, United States
So what are Seviroscopes useful for, and why do people want one? Mathilde is really good at seeing the winds, so I'm not sure what the added gain is. But then I've never heard of them before.
HanEmpire
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@BoneyM could this lead to Algard getting suspicious about our sources for Winning the War Below? Mathilde alluded to using primary sources for her "insights", and if the Gold Order gets all our Skaven materials they'll realize that there aren't much in the way of tactical/strategic inspirations there.
kfrar
Aspiring Encyclopedia
A thought on the Seviroscope: in practice, this amounts to getting the Gold College to put "research Seviroscope" on their todo list. But we can already do that -
On the other hand, we need Gold-specific boons/favor to get the knowledge on independent magic constructs, and we don't have any other source of that. Plus, one of the bigger issues involved with the Seviroscope is making sure it can interpret the magical data in order to display it in a useful manner, which the Gehenna's Hounds knowledge might help with if we want to do the Seviroscope project ourselves.
So I'm sold on:
[] Insights on creating independent, temporary, and combat-capable constructs in the vein of Gehenna's Golden Hounds
I've no doubt that asking for a Sevirscope here will get the Golds to work harder at it than with the Great Deed, but one of the colleges would, presumably, get there eventually.
On the other hand, we need Gold-specific boons/favor to get the knowledge on independent magic constructs, and we don't have any other source of that. Plus, one of the bigger issues involved with the Seviroscope is making sure it can interpret the magical data in order to display it in a useful manner, which the Gehenna's Hounds knowledge might help with if we want to do the Seviroscope project ourselves.
So I'm sold on:
[] Insights on creating independent, temporary, and combat-capable constructs in the vein of Gehenna's Golden Hounds
NSMS
Probably evil, unfortunately.
- Location
- A rapidly widening tear in the fabric of reality
He's using lots of tricks to try and make us pliable; emphasising our importance, saying we'd no doubt produce brilliant insights if we did the investigations ourselves, and so on and so forth. Plus, he seems to be expecting and pushing for an immediate answer. That's probably what you're picking up on. It doesn't change the fact that- once you remove the doublespeak- he's actually right about what he's saying, but it's still grating to me.
Though, actually...
@BoneyM, IC would we be answering immediately, or would we be taking a short break back to the Karak to think things over? I know this won't affect the vote, but it does affect how Mathilde portrays herself; whether she's hasty, want to put some thought into it, etc. And also as a fluff thing, it'd let us check to see whether any other colleges might want to make similar approaches.
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- Earth
Bok. Kragg can't see his five runed soul. Plus being able to share a standardized windsight variant, since it varies so much between individuals.
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- New Brunswick, NJ
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It's the thread nickname for a device that would allow Dwarves to view the Winds with their eyes, allowing Kragg to see the runes on Bok's "soul" for himself.
This is also a potentially useful thing for teaching and research among wizards, yeah.
Primary sources means talking to someone who knows, or reading their writings. That's why we dropped our dictionary on the table: our cover story for our Skaven tactical knowledge is "we stole all their writings and learned how they think." We've already published Eshin correspondence, so this is plausible.
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- Actually pretty lost
We wanted to make one for Kragg, so that he could see inside Bok.
The thing is, we've been levelling our enchanting and are capable of doing this ourself. Mathilde has Volans-tier Windsight so we aren't going to be making an inferior product.