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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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Redshirt Army said:
Sadly, that typo has been fixed, despite how sweet it was.
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On the subject of typos: is Magesterial an intentional pun or a typo of the word Magisterial?

Anyway, yeah, we've already been assumed to be one of Algard's Hands before. I strongly suspect that if we ever step down as K8P Loremaster, we're going to get a job offer.
 
Jyn Ryvia said:
While it would be good for Mathy if he doesn't get the Patriarch job at some point, I feel like he will be too useful for Boney as a plot point for him to dies of screen barring the strangest of die rolls.

also, I assume he is the second strongest right now if he not only got the job latter, but kept the job while bulling every non sigmar ML Grey off the management roles while pushing for more and more sigmar worship in the order.
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Eh, the Patriarchy is a punishment, not a reward. The Lords Magister fob it off on the respectable nerds while they're busy Keytar surfing through the astral plane or whatever (or, more depressingly, doing their own paperwork). It's the Supreme role which is decided through strength.
 
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BoneyM said:
The Grey College has a very widespread recruitment network.

(Yes, that one's my fault)
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NO! THE TRUTH IS OUT!

We know now. This explains everything.

Excuse me while I reroute my "coloured strings on a map" for a couple of hours, and when I finish recontextualising this information into my overall worldview... oh! I am blowing this thing right open.

BeepSmile dials a number on his phone: "Hello, the MEDIA?"

Oh yes! This'll wake the sheeple up!

Edit: Oh, so you've altered the record. I know that no one will believe this now that you have removed the evidence, but... you'll slip up. Slip up in a way that you won't be able to hide. I know it.
 
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Why do I feel like the Grey College would have some secret roles no one below the rank of LM would even have clearance to know about?

Then again, those may be below the major ones shown.
 
Jyn Ryvia said:
While it would be good for Mathy if he doesn't get the Patriarch job at some point, I feel like he will be too useful for Boney as a plot point for him to dies of screen barring the strangest of die rolls.

also, I assume he is the second strongest right now if he not only got the job latter, but kept the job while bulling every non sigmar ML Grey off the management roles while pushing for more and more sigmar worship in the order.
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I highly doubt he bullies people in the college about their faith. He bullies peasants into it because he thinks faith is Sigmar is the only thing standing in between their souls and damnation.

Edit: The college has better ways to be sure of that than faith, as demonstrated when Mathilde got daemon checked.
 
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Alliterate said:
Who else do we know who at least one King of K8P would loudly attribute saving that Runic power network to, if he knew about it and the failing power reserves?
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I mean... imagine possible Future High King Belegar, going over the power level logs and last Critical Failure Warning messages, discovers the previously-immanent failure of the network.

If a Transcendent Boon repays recovering his ancestral Dwarfhold, how can he ever repay saving an Empire?

(I'm not saying it is all down to us, but Belegar seems to (over)value our contribution to this extent).
 
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Jyn Ryvia said:
also, I assume he is the second strongest right now if he not only got the job latter, but kept the job while bulling every non sigmar ML Grey off the management roles while pushing for more and more sigmar worship in the order.
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I don't think there's any evidence of him doing any such bullying? Depending on his personality I could potentially see him having a bias against non-sigmarites and not promoting them (as much?), but I doubt he'd do any kind of major reshuffling instead of maintaining continuity of leadership.
 
DragonParadox said:
The trouble with Sylvania is that there are barely any stakes. The peat smugglers are not going to kill Roswita or foment a vampiric uprising.
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The peat smugglers are dead. What's happening now is the army is moving and tightening its siege. Mathilde's contributions to the war now would be in the form of battle assistance, reconnaissance, sabotage, and assassination. Or possibly generalship instead.

As for reasons to go to Sylvania or not, I really wish people would stop saying it's none of our business as if there were people think it is or the only reason why there's desire to go is thinking that Roswita is incompetent. It's not immoral to help people and fight evil just because you're not paid to do so, and helping people out is not thinking they can't do the job themselves.

veekie said:
I'm just mystified how the barbarian warlord OR the monolithic religion is anywhere NEAR the Wind of philosophy, prophecy, and literally ivory tower academics.
Sigmar the barbarian warlord probably would have worked fine in Ghur. Sigmar the God of the Empire is about as good a fit for Dedication to Hysh.
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Sigmar's state-building has been mentioned but I'd like to counter the monolithic religion thing. Sigmar was a champion of Ulric but was a polytheist living in a polytheistic region. He accepted the other gods and honoured them where appropriate, just personally honoured one of them above all. He never tried to set down a state religion for the Empire.
 
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Andres110 said:
He never tried to set down a state religion for the Empire.
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Even with Sigmarism itself, while a portion of the Cult of Sigmar actively try to promote Sigmar as the only god worth praying to, I don't think there's necessarily theological backing on that one- I don't think there's any passage of the Deus Sigmar where he goes "And by the way, Ulric and all the rest of them suck".
 
If we want to talk about hopping on a trouble spot before it happens, has anyone considered that if Barak Varr commits its navy against Marienburg, that's going to at least temporarily pull ships away from Blood River patrols? You know, the only lifeline that K8P has to the Empire and the rest of Karaz Ankor?

It seems to me that next turn would be an excellent time to devote an action to investigating and/or disrupting the pirates before they have a chance to realize their opportunity and become a problem.
 
Briefvoice said:
If we want to talk about hopping on a trouble spot before it happens, has anyone considered that if Barak Varr commits its navy against Marienburg, that's going to at least temporarily pull ships away from Blood River patrols?
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Well, it depends. The shipwright guild did just split into Brown-water and Blue-water. The Dreadnoughts certainly weren't patrolling the Blood River.
 
Briefvoice said:
If we want to talk about hopping on a trouble spot before it happens, has anyone considered that if Barak Varr commits its navy against Marienburg, that's going to at least temporarily pull ships away from Blood River patrols? You know, the only lifeline that K8P has to the Empire and the rest of Karaz Ankor?

It seems to me that next turn would be an excellent time to devote an action to investigating and/or disrupting the pirates before they have a chance to realize their opportunity and become a problem.
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I have less than no interest in killing random pirates, at least the vampires have some claim to being a challenge.
 
Mopman43 said:
Even with Sigmarism itself, while a portion of the Cult of Sigmar actively try to promote Sigmar as the only god worth praying to, I don't think there's necessarily theological backing on that one- I don't think there's any passage of the Deus Sigmar where he goes "And by the way, Ulric and all the rest of them suck".
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Actually, that kind of thinking is baked into the firmament of Sigmarism. The first Sigmarite prophet, the guy who started the whole religion, was a monodominant. The religion has grown and shifted over time so you've got loads of guys like Kasmir, probably a strong majority of the faith, but it's got less precedent than going "fuck all the other gods."
 
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Briefvoice said:
If we want to talk about hopping on a trouble spot before it happens, has anyone considered that if Barak Varr commits its navy against Marienburg, that's going to at least temporarily pull ships away from Blood River patrols? You know, the only lifeline that K8P has to the Empire and the rest of Karaz Ankor?

It seems to me that next turn would be an excellent time to devote an action to investigating and/or disrupting the pirates before they have a chance to realize their opportunity and become a problem.
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Wasn't that what Belegar was off doing before the whole "Reclaim six mountains in an afternoon" thing happened?
 
DragonParadox said:
I have less than no interest in killing random pirates, at least the vampires have some claim to being a challenge.
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I also have less than no interest in killing "random pirates", so we're in complete agreement there.

Dealing with a potential problem before it's an actually problem, no matter grubby, is on the other hand something that would make me feel good. Sometimes the work isn't glorious.
 
DragonParadox said:
I have less than no interest in killing random pirates, at least the vampires have some claim to being a challenge.
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Briefvoice said:
I also have less than no interest in killing "random pirates", so we're in complete agreement there.

Dealing with a potential problem before it's an actually problem, no matter grubby, is on the other hand something that would make me feel good. Sometimes the work isn't glorious.
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Relax, it wouldn't cost proper AP, just an EIC action.
 
Briefvoice said:
I also have less than no interest in killing "random pirates", so we're in complete agreement there.

Dealing with a potential problem before it's an actually problem, no matter grubby, is on the other hand something that would make me feel good. Sometimes the work isn't glorious.
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Except this isn't really work it's a story. Much like you shouldn't borrow trouble, I think we should endeavor not to borrow boredom. It would not be fun for the GM to write or us to read a curb stomp on some hapless pirates
 
DragonParadox said:
Except this isn't really work it's a story. Much like you shouldn't borrow trouble, I think we should endeavor not to borrow boredom. It would not be fun for the GM to write or us to read a curb stomp on some hapless pirates
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If the GM doesn't want to write something he won't give us the option for it, no matter how much "sense" it is or how "in character" it is. If it's an option, the GM wants to write it.
 
BoneyM said:
Under the thematics of Wind magic, this would definitely be Dark Magic, rather than Grey Magic. Grey Magic isn't exactly the magic of shadows, it's the magic of boundaries, especially boundaries between light and darkness. Body jacking would fit a theme that's just shadows, but it doesn't jive with boundaries, since it's outright erasing the boundary between you and them.
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This kind of sounds like a corruption of Ulgu, in the same way that Necromancy is a corruption of Shyish.
 
DragonParadox said:
Except this isn't really work it's a story. Much like you shouldn't borrow trouble, I think we should endeavor not to borrow boredom. It would not be fun for the GM to write or us to read a curb stomp on some hapless pirates
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Curb stomps tend to be fun to read and write as long as there are not constant and they do not happen on the climax of an important storyline that should be challenging.

(there are exceptions to those exceptions and exceptions other than those exceptions, but none of these are relevant here so I'd rather not make a 1500 word dissertation on why it works for One Punch Man despite not using the above 2 exceptions,as it is irrelevant to the point)
 
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