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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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BoneyM said:
It's easily justifiable as necessary downtime, and it's low-key enough that it's not visible as an indulgence, as there's a constant flow of books from Barak Varr that are business-related, Mathilde's got her nose in a book most of the time anyway and her personal library is tucked away in her bedroom. Unless you gave the Bursar a reason to really want to nail you for something, it's not a problem.
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And if the Bursar were to, for whatever reason, get a good look at our Bath Room?
 
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SaltyWaffles said:
Why would Aqshy be bad against armored foes? Armor only protects against fire so much, especially when it isn't even close to airtight and you put enough heat on them--the armor becomes so hot that it would horrifically injure anyone caught inside of it, and you couldn't remove the heat without taking the armor off (and good luck getting serious armor off quickly in the middle of a battle while melting alive).

Chamon is more about buffs and debuffs--making your allies' armor and weapons super tough/effective, or making your enemies' armor turn into lead (making it stupidly heavy while also being not nearly as tough). Though stuff like Searing Doom would probably be very effective against armored foes.

But Azyr is also really good against armored targets, at least in limited numbers, because lightning. Metal armor means that you're going to get electrocuted to death at best, if not fried outright. And because it is lightning, good fucking luck dodging it, because it travels at the speed of light. Even large, very tough flying creatures would be effectively knocked out of action for a long while after being struck by lightning.
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Magical attributes aside(someone else addressed those already), contrary to popular perception, metal armor does in fact work on lightning, the more metal the better. Lightning running through metal armor heats it and causes burns. Lightning running through your body causes horrific internal damage along your circulatory/nervous systems as the best conductors.


BoneyM said:
It's easily justifiable as necessary downtime, and it's low-key enough that it's not visible as an indulgence, as there's a constant flow of books from Barak Varr that are business-related, Mathilde's got her nose in a book most of the time anyway and her personal library is tucked away in her bedroom. Unless you gave the Bursar a reason to really want to nail you for something, it's not a problem.
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And if the Bursar really wants to nail you your romance novel collection is probably like somewhere on the third or fourth page of charges.

Thinking from the perspective of an auditor, they'd just check and see if somebody's spending more money than they can justify earning(and you can check against the tithe with some simple maths. If yes thats often a sign of other hanky panky.

Mathilde's spending in that light isn't really anything to worry about. Might even be some small relief to know she's spending it on legal vices rather than building a research bolthole in the Border Princes where she works unholy magics out of sight.
 
[X] [TOWER] Oh Dear

[X] [DWARF] No purchase.
[X] [COLLEGE] No purchase.
[X] [PURCHASE] Post a bounty of 300 gold at Barak Varr for enough dragonbone to make two staffs.

[X] [LIBRARY] Esoteric Imperial Ranald (150gc), Esoteric Imperial Sevir (50gc, 2CF), Antiquarian Dwarf Dragons (100gc, 2DF)
[X] [LIBRARY] Esoteric Imperial Ranald (150gc), Esoteric Imperial Sevir (50gc, 2CF), Antiquarian Dwarven Dragons (100gc, 2DF), Dwarven Romance (50gc), Bretonnian Romance (50gc)
[X] [LIBRARY] Esoteric Imperial Ranald (150gc), Esoteric Imperial Sevir (50gc, 2CF), Antiquarian Dwarven Dragons (100gc, 2DF), Antiquarian Imperial Waystones and Henges (100gc, 2CF), Extensive Imperial Elementalism (100gc)
 
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storryeater said:
A partial success (they kill her but get revealed as the killers) will result in a Dwarven grudge because even if she has broken the oaths, they are still killing her without a trial or request of arbitration, which would make the Dawi side with her unless the greys were really really good at justifying the fact there was no room for arbitration to the Dwarves. A full success will still weaken Dwarf-Empire relations by a lot, seeing as they lost their by far most successful ambassador.
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Even with a really good justification there's a very good chance of a grudge. Dwarves are not as rational as they'd like to be, and we are one of King Belegar's closest confidants. Even if it doesn't technically get carved into the book of grudges due to political reasons, he would absolutely carry a grudge for the rest of his hopefully long life. That's just a natural result of someone killing your best friend who helped save your people and ancestral home.

storryeater said:
Their other option would be to reveal to the dwarfs that she is an oathbreaker, ask for an extraction then kill her. Assuming that Mathilde cannot bullshit her way out of that (she likely can), that will result in a ton of public fallout, may result in no dwarf ever trusting a human again and will give Mathilde a chance to run to boot.
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And Mathilde could definitely bullshit her way out of it. Whether or not she would is a different question, but we have a transcendant boon with Belegar. If we asked him not to extradite us, he would follow that request.
 
The constant discussions about the Vow of Poverty are some of the strangest recurring themes in this quest for me. Yes we are breaking the letter but not the spirit of it, as long as we stay in those lines we are fine. We could build an entire damn palace for Mathilde and as long as it did not become public knowledge to the wider Empire we could then have the Bursar over for tea in it. The reason for the vow of poverty is not some sort of inherent appreciation for the virtues of austerity, it is to keep Grey Wizards from abusing their magic to get rich to the Empire's detriment (which includes putting in more time getting rich than actually helping the Empire)

Do you want to know what I think is at the top of Mathilde's Grey Order file when it comes to danger flags? Not her toilet but this: You're more at home in the Karaz Ankor than the Empire you theoretically owe allegiance to.

That is a genuine point of weakness to her loyalty to Sigmar's Empire and the Colleges, one that is unlikely but not imposibile to come into play.
 
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Just that the thread has difficulty digesting the concept of rules expressedly designed to be broken so that people can see HOW you break or smudge the rules to learn about how you deal with other matters.

Its the Grey Order. The grey areas are critical
 
[X] [PURCHASE] Post a bounty of 300 gold at Barak Varr for enough dragonbone to make two staffs.
[X] [TOWER] Smoke and Mirrors
 
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Another notable aspect of the North-Eastern Quarter was the Great Library. During the rule of the extravagant Count Ignatius Steinhardt, the library grew extensively to become the largest building in the entire city. The Count was particularly fond of collecting mystical and religious tomes. Of course, unwittingly, The Great Library managed to collect on of the largest deposits of Daemonic and Necromantic lore in the Empire.
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How do you accidentally become a major centre of daemonic and necromantic lore?
 
Andres110 said:
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Great Library of Mordheim

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How do you accidentally become a major centre of daemonic and necromantic lore?
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Tzeentch, probably. That seems like something he would do for the laughs.
 
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Great Library of Mordheim

The Great Library of Mordheim (also known locally as the Great Library or Mordheim Library) was amongst the great landmarks of the city prior to the fall in 1999 IC.[1a] The North-East Quarter of Mordheim was renowned for trade and learning. When Mordheim was a living city, the crowded labyrinth...
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How do you accidentally become a major centre of daemonic and necromantic lore?
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Probably collected one or two with minor lore on accident and when people of importance noticed were able to spin it as keeping them safe for priests/wizards to study if absolutely needed. After that actually happened once or twice one of said priests/wizards brings another dangerous tome that could be useful. Repeat for a decade or century and you will find your collection growing worryingly large.
 
[X] [TOWER] Oh Dear
[X] [TOWER] Grey Battery
[X] [TOWER] Anti-Air Celestial
[X] [DWARF] No purchase.
[X] [COLLEGE] No purchase.
[X] [PURCHASE] No purchase.
[X] [LIBRARY] Esoteric Imperial Ranald (150gc), Esoteric Imperial Sevir (50gc, 2CF), Antiquarian Dwarf Dragons (100gc, 2DF)
[X] [LIBRARY] Esoteric Imperial Ranald (150gc), Esoteric Imperial Sevir (50gc, 2CF), Antiquarian Dwarven Dragons (100gc, 2DF), Antiquarian Imperial Waystones and Henges (100gc, 2CF), Extensive Imperial Elementalism (100gc)
 
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Great Library of Mordheim

The Great Library of Mordheim (also known locally as the Great Library or Mordheim Library) was amongst the great landmarks of the city prior to the fall in 1999 IC.[1a] The North-East Quarter of Mordheim was renowned for trade and learning. When Mordheim was a living city, the crowded labyrinth...
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How do you accidentally become a major centre of daemonic and necromantic lore?
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Cultists using the place as a drop-off and pick-up point for exchanging forbidden texts, only they keep forgetting where they put them, so the books they hide end up staying there, accumulating?
 
I am little concerned with using our working budget for romance books, this is after all the budget that we're getting from Belegar to facilitate us doing our job. If people want to spend our own money on romance books then fine but i'm not on board with burning our expenses account on frivalous stuff.

[X] [TOWER] Oh Dear
[X] [LIBRARY] Esoteric Imperial Ranald (150gc), Esoteric Imperial Sevir (50gc, 2CF), Antiquarian Dwarf Dragons (100gc, 2DF)
 
SuperSonicSound said:
I am little concerned with using our working budget for romance books, this is after all the budget that we're getting from Belegar to facilitate us doing our job. If people want to spend our own money on romance books then fine but i'm not on board with burning our expenses account on frivalous stuff.
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We are not.
BoneyM said:
Budget: 300gc, 2 Dwarf Favour. Anything not spent will not accumulate.
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Derpmind said:
[X] [LIBRARY] Esoteric Imperial Ranald (150gc), Esoteric Imperial Sevir (50gc, 2CF), Antiquarian Dwarven Dragons (100gc, 2DF), Dwarven Romance (50gc), Bretonnian Romance (50gc).
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Our book budget is 300gc which we are using to buy regular books, and then spending an extra 100 of our own money on romance books.
 
SuperSonicSound said:
I am little concerned with using our working budget for romance books, this is after all the budget that we're getting from Belegar to facilitate us doing our job. If people want to spend our own money on romance books then fine but i'm not on board with burning our expenses account on frivalous stuff.
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We're not doing that. The budget is 300, the spending is 300 + 100 romance.
 
So as is tradition, I'll be making my by-monthly argument for changing our job when our contract is up.

If we step down from Loremaster of K8P to court Wizard of Karak Nar or LoreMaster of the Grand Liberty we will have a lot more freedom to do our own things and go travel, and poke the empire and wood elf plotlines while still being around to help the dwarfs when needed.
 
@BoneyM : Any chance of having this as an option for the next social vote? Or something along those lines?
picklepikkl said:
I passionately desire a scene where Regimand visits K8P and we introduce him to our other dads as "the Master who trained me." That's a relationship that's got to carry a lot of weight in their culture.
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I imagine that Regimand would be greatly interested in seeing the crowning jewel(s) of his student/daughter's career, not to mention the utility of Regimand networking with some pretty high-profile dwarfs (given Mathilde's achievements and sheer renown among K8P, and the enormous weight dwarfs put on a teacher/student/master/apprentice relationship, it'd be incredibly easy for him to immediately get a positive relationship and some appreciation/respect, plus gyrobombers combined with Shadow Steed allow for him to make the round trip extremely short).
 
Jyn Ryvia said:
So as is tradition, I'll be making my by-monthly argument for changing our job when our contract is up.

If we step down from Loremaster of K8P to court Wizard of Karak Nar or LoreMaster of the Grand Liberty we will have a lot more freedom to do our own things and go travel, and poke the empire and wood elf plotlines while still being around to help the dwarfs when needed.
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Right up until the Grey College sends us off to wipe the ass of some dribbling incompetent of andImperial noble. K8P is ideal for working on projects because we have a good working relationship with the local lord and enough distance from the Empire that we are not expected to put out fires there.
 
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