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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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Ok, now that the danger of people voting to use the boon has passed, does anyone have any actual ideas for potential boons?

Remember, the limits are:
1. It is within Belegars power to do so.
2. Doing so does not break Belegar (asking for things outsdie Belegars power is likely to break Belegar).

Well, actually those are not the limits, there are no limits, but i suspect most people will be against things that can't be done and would break Belegar.
 
Neshuakadal said:
So just tossing out other possible boon ideas. What about establishing a bounty or quest system for adventures. Set up rewards and missions to dive into the nearby dwarf holds with the purpose of getting dwarf artifacts. I remember something about a dwarf outpost doing something with their old karak. Belegar would be able to fund much larger expeditions for mapping out old dwarf holds and reclaiming treasure.

We could get a first buy clause for any additional magical artifacts they find in those halls. Also by combining the stories from the adventures we could likely keep track of orc population density like what we did for the Hunter's Hills. One of the big thing though is that it would give BoneyM some additional meat for finding interesting stories or plots that we have to deal with from the reports of the adventures.

There are several goals for this boon. One is to establish a way for more humans to get used to working with dwarfs. This would improve multi-species cooperation thus reducing misunderstanding between order factions. Second it allows Mathilde to have a steady source of potentially interesting objects with out having to go out and search for them. This would save AP from finding things. Also if people are getting a little stir crazy it would give an easy way for us to go out on a quick 20 minute adventure. It would also aid Belegar. If any of the adventures find an important dwarf item than Belegar could get important politically clout for returning it to the rightful clan. It also applies pressure to the surrounding greenskin population by staying on the attack. Bands of human diving into orc held land and killing those they come across. Finally it could give K8P an early warning system. If the adventures are saying that orcs are gathering together then there may be a waaagh about to form.

This boon would allow for a more active form of knowledge acquisition by having adventures going out and reclaiming lost dwarf items without risking dwarf lives.
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That sounds like a great way to acquire an ever increasing mountain of shinies we have no time to do anything about.
 
Valmond said:
Ok, now that the danger of people voting to use the boon has passed, does anyone have any actual ideas for potential boons?

Remember, the limits are:
1. It is within Belegars power to do so.
2. Doing so does not break Belegar (asking for things outsdie Belegars power is likely to break Belegar).

Well, actually those are not the limits, there are no limits, but i suspect most people will be against things that can't be done and would break Belegar.
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Acolyte said:
No, like proper military expeditions. Say that bretonian dukedom under threat. Have no fear, magister weber is here to help with her free merc army.
Or the college's know a chaos ritual going down but the empire can't spare the troops, well luckily a magister can afford an army funded by the dwarves.

We go fully american.
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Acolyte said:
No, like proper military expeditions. Say that bretonian dukedom under threat. Have no fear, magister weber is here to help with her free merc army.
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Ok so you have proposed a personal army for Matilda to play general. If General of Fog had won over Windherder, the case will have been stronger. What is you case for the Thread to play General over Windherder?
 
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BoneyM said:
"Okay, so the Dwarf Engineer -> Stirland Repeater thing is a bit ambiguous, so I guess I'll roll to see if he's just going to go over the design or if he's going to look over the factory blueprints or if he full on visits Blutdorf or what..."



ANTON CAN YOU PLEASE MAYBE CHILL FOR ONE GODDAMN TURN
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The dwarf loved the idea of the Repeater but hated the way it was being made so shoddily so he has basically just seat himself down and taken over production. And no, he is not leaving.
 
Acolyte said:
No, like proper military expeditions. Say that bretonian dukedom under threat. Have no fear, magister weber is here to help with her free merc army.
Or the college's know a chaos ritual going down but the empire can't spare the troops, well luckily a magister can afford an army funded by the dwarves.

We go fully american.
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Uh...you know they already do that whenever they can right?
It was Sigmar's Boon, alliance in perpetuity.

That they don't do it more often is more a matter of cannot, cannot make it in time, and cannot spare the lives to make it work.
Also we've already been able to mobilize armies with Dwarf Favor. Subject to the right targets.
 
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veekie said:
Uh...you know they already do that whenever they can right?
It was Sigmar's Boon, alliance in perpetuity.

That they don't do it more often is more a matter of cannot, cannot make it in time, and cannot spare the lives to make it work.
Also we've already been able to mobilize armies with Dwarf Favor. Subject to the right targets.
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Not their own armies. Just money to hire mercs. No loss of potential dwarf life.
 
Acolyte said:
No, like proper military expeditions. Say that bretonian dukedom under threat. Have no fear, magister weber is here to help with her free merc army.
Or the college's know a chaos ritual going down but the empire can't spare the troops, well luckily a magister can afford an army funded by the dwarves.

We go fully american.
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We already decided to not become a merc earlier.
This is an option, but not sure i would use a boon for that, we won't have time for it while we remain the lorekeeper, and after we retire, we probably could swing this without the boon, if we want to (i presonally would rather not).

Though there is a problem that the elector counts will probably not like the idea of random magister wandering about with an army.
Colleges might also look bit weirdly at that, probably not enough to do anything about it, we have earned enough trust by now i think.
On a more practical matter, how would we get anywhere in time? Gyrocarriers might work? That said, the case of a chaos ritual colleges know of, but can't do anything about, yet have enugh time to send a word to us, and have us mobilize to stop it, seems like very unlikely sequence of events.
 
Acolyte said:
Not their own armies. Just money to hire mercs. No loss of potential dwarf life.
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That kinda makes the idea worse.
Mercs are not the kind of soldiers with discipline/gear to send into chaos rituals.
Fantasy SWAT made of dwarf warriors with runic weapons and anti magic armor would be much more effective.
Heck, you might be able to get some slayers to join if you promise them the first go at any demons that appear.
 
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Valmond said:
That kinda makes the idea worse.
Mercs are not the kind of soldiers with discipline/gear to send into chaos rituals.
Crack team of dwarf warriors with runic weapons and anti magic armor would be much more effective.
Heck, you might be able to get some slayers to join if you promise them the first go at any demons that appear.
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I mean quantity vs quality and all that. But you are focusing too much on an example and not the bigger picture.
 
Acolyte said:
I mean quantity vs quality and all that. But you are focusing too much on an example and not the bigger picture.
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Quantity would make it more or less useless in any emergency situation.
In non emergency situation you can just hire mercs.

And the problem of Elector counts objecting to random mages with armies wandering across their lands remains.
 
Acolyte said:
The colleges know, not the counts.
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Ofcourse the colleges know, hence the said eulogy.
No, i seriously doubt Grey College is going to be ok with Mathilde having a secret army running around the empire.
Once that gets out (and something that big probably would), there would be hell to pay.
Also not sold on the necessity of thissecret army.

Like, make a case. You gave an example, and once that example was kinda pulled apart you did not give a better one.
Why is this army needed. How does it operate. What keeps the empire from coming down on it like a bag of especially heavy hammers.
 
I mean there is no particular need for an army per se. But it will be mightly useful for us and increase our power projection capabilities a lot.

For example, a waagh threatens a city in the border lands, we could help them and prevent it from snowballing into a threat for the empire. Or we know that skaven wish to attack a city in brettonia or something, we are there to beat them back. The benefit from an independent mobile task force lead by an super spy wizard genral are plentiful. We are usually very good at getting information but this will allow us levarge that information without needing to have to risk live of dwarfs pr sap a counts army.


As for avoiding the empire nobles we can pretend it is hired by the EIC or something.
 
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