Bandits wouldn't be sending any money home, but they might become self sustaining yes.
Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
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If anything, Mathilde and Freddy should at least be able to bond over mutual appreciation for Magnus the Pious.
The former due to his creation of the Colleges of Magic, the latter because he ended the War of the Three Emperors.
Though that and possibly the dwarfs is about the only thing they'd get along on.
The former due to his creation of the Colleges of Magic, the latter because he ended the War of the Three Emperors.
Though that and possibly the dwarfs is about the only thing they'd get along on.
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- Spain
Whereas I don't disagree that it is unlikely that Mathilde will be required for something as mundane as dealing with bandits, I think that Mathilde's services will be quite solicited in Karaz Ankor...
Mathilde has more than 100 Dwarf reputation and she will be forever known among the Dwarfs like the general that reconquered 6 out of 8 karags in K8P in less than 8 hours and with less than 3000 casualties... So I am pretty sure that whenever the Dwarfs decide to organize an expedition to reconquer Karag Yar, or to reclaim the relics of Karag Dum, Mathilde would be incredibly solicited and the organizers would willingly give up drinking just to recruit such an effective miracle worker...
Whoa, whoa. Let's not go into crazy talk here.
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- Spain
Ok, let's just say that they would give up an arm and a leg instead...
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- Aotearoa
Heh. Non-drinking hyperbole aside, the potential for an even higher profile in the Karaz Ankor fits the general pattern of Mathilde's last few years. She's conversing with Emperors, on battlefields with Grand Patriarchs, negotiating with Dragons and sought after by Ar-Ulrics.
The one attribute letting her down at this level is her Diplomacy of 11. We couldn't read the audience reception to our lectures. I seem to recall similar with the Dragon, where a better diplomat could have gleaned their agenda before they announced it. The Empress was able to run over us in the meeting, before we got a word out. We even had trouble reading Johann, and keep on terrifying poor Panoramia.
In short, at the level Mathilde is operating at, the art of politics becomes important. Aside from getting lessons in "how to make friends and influence people" from the grandmaster (that's Anton, obv.), we've an opportunity with the Shinies from this chapter to boost Mathilde's ability in this new, treacherous arena.
There may even be traits in the Battle tree.
The one attribute letting her down at this level is her Diplomacy of 11. We couldn't read the audience reception to our lectures. I seem to recall similar with the Dragon, where a better diplomat could have gleaned their agenda before they announced it. The Empress was able to run over us in the meeting, before we got a word out. We even had trouble reading Johann, and keep on terrifying poor Panoramia.
In short, at the level Mathilde is operating at, the art of politics becomes important. Aside from getting lessons in "how to make friends and influence people" from the grandmaster (that's Anton, obv.), we've an opportunity with the Shinies from this chapter to boost Mathilde's ability in this new, treacherous arena.
There may even be traits in the Battle tree.
I think we should seriously consider something to boost Mathildes capability in this arena, specifically an inherent +Diplo trait that is related to reading what the other party wants would be ideal. Given the gap to our other 20+ stats, most of which are more than double our Diplomacy, perhaps more than one boost in this attribute wouldn't be wasted.
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- The Surface Of A Hostile Planet
It's incredible, really - one of the mountains had no hostiles in it, and the golem in it teamed up with the dragon to destroy skryre. Mors took the opportunity to hit Eshin, while the Trolls went and mutually annihilated the orcs for us. Then the dragon mopped up Mors and Eshin. It was basically a comedy sketch where everything fell down around Mathilde and left her holding the prize, unsure of how it got there.
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- Canada
It's also possible that Melkoth is cheating a bit. If you're hitting a colleague and not an enemy army, Bewilder and some illusory fog could replicate the look of Melkoth's Miasma easily enough. Even Mathilde's Confusion mastery does something similar, with zero range but below the Battle Magic tier.
And no one with the expertise to call him out on it bothers doing so, because the longer the joke goes on the funnier it gets.
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- Earth
And everyone thinks it was a case of Just As Planned and noone would ever believe her otherwise.
Not that she'd ever disabuse them off the notion.
... Except we did know how everything got there, keeping close watch at the time - it was more that every step of the way we were going "can we possibly have gotten this lucky? Doublecheck and make prep work just in case we get this lucky again - or in case we don't."
Being unsure of how the prize got there makes for a better story, though.
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- Spain
I am not saying that it is not true, but since Mathilde is going to appear in the stories as a Magnificent Bastard that planned the whole reconquest step by step and that during the whole campaign everything just went according to plan, instead of a combination of being both incredibly lucky and clever enough to seize these opportunities when they happened, I think that my point stands.
Hell, even if Mathilde´s simply appears in the stories like the incredibly lucky woman she was, I think that many of the guys who will organize these expeditions would give up an arm and a leg just to get her as a lucky charm...
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Aranfan
Team Plasma Grunt
Even beyond just how lucky she was, she was also good enough to capitalize on the opportunities that presented themselves to her.
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- Spain
Yes, that is what I said in my post...
Omegahugger
Inattentive Idiot
Good to see people acknowledge that it was Mathilde's own luck that got her everywhere, and not celestial bribery from the guy we foolishly worship.
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- The Surface Of A Hostile Planet
Why not both?
Omegahugger
Inattentive Idiot
Tell me, where do you think
Let me give you a hint. Maybe two.
No, Mathilde's luck is her own. If it ever belonged to anyone else, she wrested it from them with her own
Credit is not the only thing Ranald steals! He also steals the figurative hearts of young maidens.
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QuietlyObserving
The Railgun That Walks Like a Bear
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- Here.
Luck is what happens when Preparation meets Opportunity.
Unless it's some of the bonkers crits we've seen. Then it's definitely Ranald playing silly buggers.
Ericwinter
Definitely not a Skaven Infiltrator
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- America
Funny thing, actually, but I was looking back over that, and noticed this:
That was a piety roll, by Mathilde, in a desperate attempt to do something. That was OUR effort, to do something. It only failed because our faith wasn't GOOD enough. Not because Ranald failed, but because Mathilde did. And only barely, too. The way I see it, we prayed hard enough to get Ranald in the room, but when he tried to act, it just wasn't enough, so he did the only thing he could do, which was comfort us. The saddest thing about that is that Mathilde managed that much when she wasn't even a priest, but Sigmar didn't even show up when his own fully ordained agent tried calling to him.
Godwinson
"Well, I've got nothing."
...you know, I think Mathilde should anonymously get someone to write up her life story as a farce like that, have it be a series of cheap plays. Borrow Anton's complete obliviousness-making-things-work-somehow for Mathilde's characterization.
Omegahugger
Inattentive Idiot
Yes, we have another who recognizes that the unbelieveable series of critfails that killed Abel was Ranald's work!
Now we just need to convince... About 250 other people to have a reliable majority?
Notice how Ranald never actually specifies what he's apologising for. No, the Piety check was clearly to see if Mathilde's pure faith was enough to sway Ranald to abort his plans to spare her heart. Alas, all we managed to do was make him feel bad for going through with it.
Which, to be fair, is much more compassion than most deities show their mortals. I betcha Sigmar wouldn't have done that.
Godwinson
"Well, I've got nothing."
Considering that Ranald's basic nature is luck good and bad, it's possible that he's limited to simply shifting about luck. So the apology could be "I'm sorry the cost came due like this". Still, it was an act of empathy from a god, and that's not at all common for a god to be capable of.
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- UK
Finally finished catching up! Great view on a traditional CK2 and one of the best Warhammer quests I've read so far.
So is this quest on a break now? Will it be continuing anytime soon?
So is this quest on a break now? Will it be continuing anytime soon?
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The good GM has been working on a move to a new residence. They may or may not, according to their report, be starting again on Monday. Either way, it's not a big thing like the first one, so we can patiently wait.
Welcome aboard.
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- Spain
Its funny but we are only a few posts away of getting another 100 extra pages from the last update...
I have never seen another quest that has advanced 100 pages during an hiatus...
I'm pretty sure Avalanche's has done it before. Though I suppose you could argue that quest merely has a very, very, very slow update rate.