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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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chocolote12 said:
He's not a genie, you know. 'That can be reasonably purchased with appropriate amounts of money' shouldn't need to be said, but there's nothing stopping us from saying it if we have to.
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No, he's a dwarf.
At least one post has suggested asking for a copy of every dwarf book that isn't proscribed.

Which is why all I said was you have to be very careful how you frame open ended requests to Dwarves who feel infinitely in your debt.
 
once again, I hope this is helping boney

@BoneyM list of the most argued about ideas.

1: Pimped Dreadnought: (once paid off boon is done, might break the K8P bank, might be hard to manage, pimping)

2: Research lab Ironclad: .( far less likely to break the bank, more a floating lab than a than DOOMship, might be underselling the boon.)

3: Sanctuary! ( K8P will welcome wizards and offer Sanctuary if the empire ever bans them again) ( no initial cost to dwarfs, possible unforeseen problems, more narratively cool than something useful unless shit really hits the fan.)

4: EIC monopoly on goods like Spider silk (what it says on the tin, college might see it as one step too far.)

5:First pick from the vaults. (get the coolest stuff, there needs to be stuff worth it that we can't get without the boon.)

6: Custom made gyrocopter/gyrobomber (pimping, can go where we like when we like, kind of already have the practical benefit of this.)

7: Empire calls for aid, the dwarfs of K8PS answers (what it says on the tin, by word of Boney: Empire big, K8P small, anything that the empire needs help with might kill all the dwarfs.)

8: Belegar's hand in marriage (its a meme, but if people are going to keep meming it I'm listing it.)

9: fund and support research projects. (get Research done without having to share credit. its all stuff we could do on our own if we got our shit together)

10: Dwarf engineering guide for humans (humans learn more of the Dwarfs secrets, might be possible, probably not in Belegar's power, but he'll try.)

11: Runes for wizards? (K8P's makes runes for new journeyman, ducklings have a better chance at living college happy, not really doing stuff for Mathy herself.

12: Second peak for humans/halflings etc to live in. (more space, currently a lot of space in Kark Nar)

13: permission for that K8P Institute for Wizards (Hogwarts, but still need to get permission from the College of magics side of things.)

14: The Great Library of Karak Nar: space and a year have a budget to buy books on as many places and topics as possible (or realistic) with a loresmastrer (or three ) on stuff whose job it is recopied and guard as needed. (what it says on the tin, may have to look after it.)

15: Help Dwarfs? (not ignoring you guys, but I need a actual game plan, its all over the place.)

16: Establish fund and support a K8P Research Institute, with Mathilde as the first Director. (what it says on the tin,not connected to Colleges of Magic, will have to look after it)

anymore I missed?
 
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Jyn Ryvia said:
9: fund and support research projects. (get Research done without having to share credit. its all stuff we could do on our own if we got our shit together)
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9+: Establish fund and support a K8P Research Institute, with Mathilde as the first Director. (Hope is for similar benefits, but it will also persist after Mathilde and Belegar have moved on.)

(See, it's another title, which is my real agenda). :V
 
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I feel like the Wizard Sanctuary would have a lot of echoes even if its never needed as a sanctuary as such.

It's basically saying, "I would like you to extend the trust and friendship that you have towards me and generalize it to some extent to the colleges of wizardry in general." Almost like that first oath between Sigmar and Karak Ankor. Belegar started off being willing to take on human wizards for the Reclamation because... well, the whole idea was crazy, so might as well take whatever help was offered. Afterwards he hired Mathilde and then let her hire some wizards beneath her. And then more wizards arrived to be managed by her.

The Boon would add some nitro to that. Other dwarven kingdoms may do as they will, but in K8P human wizardry becomes another fully respected tool in the toolbox, on the same level as runesmiths and engineers. And if anybody doesn't like that, tough, take it up with the king.
 
Dry to develop a gyrocopter/bomber designed to cast Burning Shadow? Basically create a flying equivalent of the the Light and Celestial magic warmachines... possibly more to be produced later?
 
Alliterate said:
9+: Establish fund and support a K8P Research Institute, with Mathilde as the first Director. (Hope is for similar benefits, but it will also persist after Mathilde and Belegar have moved on.)

(See, it's another title, which is my real agenda). :V
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Lupercal said:
I... think that Belegar has already said yes to number 13? I'm not sure I would need to double check BoneyM's previous posts. If yes then the barrier would be the Colleges themselves and we would use our Great Deed rather then our Boon.
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I'm just putting up what people have been asking for, not my fult if we can get it anyways.
 
I wonder, unrelated to the Boon, whether it would be possible to make a runic/magical item (staff?)) that applied Gazul's Fire to Mathilde's personal casting of Burning Shadows.
 
Alliterate said:
This library business... you've got to be careful with open-ended requests, mind.

If you ask for "a copy of every book in the Karaz Ankor", Belegar will hear "I must also send expeditions into every fallen Dwarfhold to recover any and all books that may have survived."
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Yes. That sounds fine, then Mathilde has a reason to join these expeditions and turn them into reconquerings xD
 
Jyn Ryvia said:
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Jyn Ryvia said:
13: Establish fund and support a K8P Research Institute, with Mathilde as the first Director. (Hogwarts, college edition. but still need to get permission from the College of magics side of things. might have to look after it)
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?? A research institute is not (as I meant or I think described it) Hogwarts K8P.
It's explicitly not a branch college tied to Altdorf, that's a different idea.
 
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Huh. I have a new exciting idea.
Mathilde Prize.

"The capital to constitute a fund, the interest on which is to be distributed annually as prizes to those who, during the preceding year, have conferred the greatest benefit to human, dwarf, halfling or spiderkind. The interest is to be divided into five equal parts and distributed as follows: one part to the person who made the most important discovery or invention in the field of engineering or chemistry; one part to the person who made the most important magical or runecrafting discovery or improvement; one part to the person who made the most important discovery within the domain of physiology or medicine; one part to the person who, in the field of literature, produced the most outstanding work in a romantic direction; and one part to the person who has done the most or best to advance fellowship among nations, the abolition or reduction of standing enemy armies, and the establishment and promotion of peace congresses. The prizes for engineering and chemistry are to be awarded by the corresponding guilds of Karak Eight Peaks; for magic and runecraft by joint committee of Karak Eight Peaks Runelord, Karak Eight Peaks Loremaster and Imperial Colleges of Magic; that for physiological or medical achievements by the priesthoods of Valaya and Shallya; that for literature by the Office of Loremaster of Karak Eight Peaks; and that for champions of peace by a committee of five persons to be selected by the king of Karak Eight Peaks. It is my express wish that when awarding the prizes, no consideration be given to nationality or species, but that the prize be awarded to the worthiest person, whether or not they are of Karak Eight Peaks."
 
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picklepikkl said:
We really don't. External security is Gotri's job description. We've got our own shit to do.
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But he can't investigate the internal situation in Karak Drazh. Only Mathilde can. The situation with Rangers not being spies has always been true, and remains so. That's why we were flying blind so much in the latest battles, because if we hadn't personally investigated the inside of a peak we knew almost nothing about what was going on inside.
 
vsh said:
Huh. I have a new exciting idea.
Mathilde Prize.

"The capital to constitute a fund, the interest on which is to be distributed annually as prizes to those who, during the preceding year, have conferred the greatest benefit to human, dwarf, halfling or spiderkind. The interest is to be divided into five equal parts and distributed as follows: one part to the person who made the most important discovery or invention in the field of engineering or chemistry; one part to the person who made the most important magical or runecrafting discovery or improvement; one part to the person who made the most important discovery within the domain of physiology or medicine; one part to the person who, in the field of literature, produced the most outstanding work in a romantic direction; and one part to the person who has done the most or best to advance fellowship among nations, the abolition or reduction of standing enemy armies, and the establishment and promotion of peace congresses. The prizes for engineering and chemistry are to be awarded by the corresponding guilds of Karak Eight Peaks; for magic and runecraft by joint committee of Karak Eight Peaks Runelord, Karak Eight Peaks Loremaster and Imperial Colleges of Magic; that for physiological or medical achievements by the priesthoods of Valaya and Shallya; that for literature by the Office of Loremaster of Karak Eight Peaks; and that for champions of peace by a committee of five persons to be selected by the king of Karak Eight Peaks. It is my express wish that when awarding the prizes, no consideration be given to nationality or species, but that the prize be awarded to the worthiest person, whether or not they are of Karak Eight Peaks."
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This is a really nice idea.
 
TBF A Great Library does sound like a very good investment personally and for the world.

Go full library of Alexandria send merchants out to acquire books and merchants that come have to contribute one.

Location may not be great though.
 
Doomed Wombat said:
TBF A Great Library does sound like a very good investment personally and for the world.

Go full library of Alexandria send merchants out to acquire books and merchants that come have to contribute one.

Location may not be great though.
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Could go one step further and not just collect books but copy them and donate them to other libraries in key places around the world.
 
TaliesinSkye said:
Could go one step further and not just collect books but copy them and donate them to other libraries in key places around the world.
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Have them copied and sold in order to increase our ability to buy more tomes we don't have yet, more like. We need to defray the costs somehow, and large collections do need maintenance if you don't want worms getting to them.
 
If we did make the library, we would probably become the first follower of Ranald to create a holy place for the cult of Verena to make pilgrimages to.
 
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