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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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Garlak said:
Is that... still possible somehow? I mean, which options lead to doing her best to try that? Is it basically Mathilde thinking "Well if I maybe start contributing to this battlefield for good and killing off as many Eshin heroes as possible, Mors might not immediately/inevitably lose..."?
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If you fill in all the gaps in Mathilde's knowledge with good things for Mors, yes, it's still possible. If you fill in all the gaps with bad things for Mors, probably not.

Asheram said:
@BoneyM Hey, Boss. About that Second Secret of Dhar. Do you need to make that nudge with Dhar itself or could the same effect be accomplished by Ulgu? Not unlike how we unraveled that Waagh channeling by giving it a prod.
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Dhar itself.

DragonParadox said:
We are very sure that is what the roll descriptions said. 'Betraying'.
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Using words with multiple possible interpretations on OOC information to obscure facts that Mathilde doesn't have access do is exactly the sort of thing I'd do.

LightLan said:
@BoneyM Which of the important Skaven has Mathilde got a good enough look at to look like via Doppelganger? :V
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Qrech.
 
Garlak said:
Eesh, what if Eshin are out to capture Sleek Sharpwit for themselves? Because of course having the second-in-command (or possibly first, now) of a Clan would be a useful prisoner to pump secrets out of, for themselves.

And are reporting that "Yes-yes, of course Mors is dead to the last... Sharpwit fought-died hard." to the Council Agent?

If this is amusingly the case, it'd be interesting (and amusing) to attack his captors and capture Sleek for ourselves. They'll never see it coming, I'm sure. :V
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Unlikely, Sleek is probably going to be PRETTY high on the spite-o-meter
 
I want to steal the sorcerer. I really want to do that. It first came up as a meme vote, but we've got them alone, and we crit every roll we made to come after them. It's still a meme vote, but a possibly viable one, and maybe we could write a paper on him.
 
Deathbybunnies said:
@BoneyM if we succeed in killing the sorcerer, can we take his body as evidence that Eshin sorcerers exist?
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Mathilde: *dumps corpse in front of Grey College* "Everybody, this is the body of an Eshin Scorcerer!"

Random onlooker: "...that just looks like any other Skaven to me."

Mathilde: "Well, the distinctive part of Eshin Sorcerers is that they cast spells, and this one's kind of too dead to do that."

Random onlooker: "So what you're saying is you've brought us the body of a Skaven that is completely indistinguishable from any other Skaven, but is totally a Sorcerer, take your word for it?"

Mathilde: "...yeeeees."
 
Garlak said:
Thank you for tracking that down and posting it. Thank you very much. This is both helpful and illuminating, and it even gives us something to grasp with.

I think I've actually seen that bit before somewhere sometimes, actually. Or remembered it somewhat. So it's about what I thought or remembered it would be. Whereas posters usually speak with much greater surety than that... (And I usually go 'But does it really?' And get 'Yes, really.' 'Okay but where?' 'In the book.' So thanks for tracking down relevant stuff and sharing it.)
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Volans also apparently wrote:

"...and so it was the collapse of this "Gateway" to the shadow realms beyond, or at least the Elves suggest, that led to the making of the world as it is today. The vast area of instability created by its collapse enabled many of the sentient fragments of the mortal world's dreams and nightmares that existed within the Realm of Chaos to manifest themselves to some degree upon the physical plane."​
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He also said:
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"Ulthuan's most ancient texts described how most of these entities were small, wild things—beings we might now recognise as the Fay or Faerie, the various sprites, aquatic nymphs, dryads, and elemental beings of the natural world. "​
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"These larger entities, creatures of thought and magic, had no physical shape of their own, and they took on forms dictated by the fears, beliefs, and expectations of the mortals they began to prey upon. In the same way, the simple deities the elder races had created across the millennia suddenly stopped being mere concepts or items of faith and became actual beings with immense powers and independent identities—they truly were the first Daemons, the first Gods."​

So apparently the elves have written records of the times before gods existed, or rather before they had any 'independent' existence, and of the time in which they came into existence.

Tome of Salvation also mentions how the Empire has records of the time before Ulric was a god of wolves, when Lupus held that portfolio before the cults synectrised, and about gods like Söll and Arhat, that the Cult of Taal assimilated (in the later case after killing off the cult's priesthood).
 
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NSMS said:
Mathilde: *dumps corpse in front of Grey College* "Everybody, this is the body of an Eshin Scorcerer!"

Random onlooker: "...that just looks like any other Skaven to me."

Mathilde: "Well, the distinctive part of Eshin Sorcerers is that they cast spells, and this one's kind of too dead to do that."

Random onlooker: "So what you're saying is you've brought us the body of a Skaven that is completely indistinguishable from any other Skaven, but is totally a Sorcerer, take your word for it?"

Mathilde: "...yeeeees."
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On the other hand, we ARE a magister of the Grey College, and in above average standing I would say. If we write a paper "Eshin Sorcerer-assassins: Observations on a rare skaven subtype and their spells in Karak Eight Peaks", the idea is not going to be laughed out of the room immediately and at least a few people (minority, to be sure) might take it seriously.
 
I think that the whole maneuver probably involves one of the stormvermin buggering off with the report. Unknowing that the Eshin Sorcerer murderized everybody else.

Otherwise there is no sense in writing that report at all
 
Of all the times for Mors to roll a nat 1...

Also, this does look interesting.

I would assume the grey seer was sent out to make sure the Mors got dead-killed by assisting the Eshin and now the council agent wants him to leave before the work is properly over.

Grey seer takes offense at not getting to personally be there for the crowning moment of glory and not get to loot the Mors coffers.

"Grey seer of the Master Clan is no-not a simple errant rat!"
 
SakSak said:
On the other hand, we ARE a magister of the Grey College, and in above average standing I would say. If we write a paper "Eshin Sorcerer-assassins: Observations on a rare skaven subtype and their spells in Karak Eight Peaks", the idea is not going to be laughed out of the room immediately and at least a few people (minority, to be sure) might take it seriously.
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As it happens, I agree; I was basically just joking about the suggestion that bringing his corpse in as proof would add anything when it's going to look identical to any other high-ranking Skaven's.
 
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