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You seem to be severely misinterpreting that quote.
It's say that is safer to fight the dragon (if it comes to a fight) here than in it's lair, and that we can easily find a way to approach him.
It says nothing about the safety of meeting with him, basically it says that jumping at a polar bear in the Savannah is easier and safer than to go looking for a polar bear in the artic.
Which is, relatively speaking, true, but still not safe at all.
No it's not.
It's saying it's easier to approach here in Karag Yar, not that it's easier to fight. Because your diplomat is not freezing his n....nose off, or suffering from altitude sickness, and the dragon is not as arrogant as it would normally be in it's place of power. Or as touchy about strangers being near it's hoard.

Not that it's easier to fight an Emperor Dragon with full combat buffs in Karag Yar.
 
That's what the spell is for. Basically, we invent a spell based on our learning Shadow Knives that simulates part of Branulhune.
That's the point of the sword spell we've been discussing. It's a sword that mostly ignores armor and can be blinked like ours can; ergo, if we develop a style we can pass it on to anybody capable of using the sword spell.
If WoG decides that a spell to create a shadow sword isn't viable, you might have luck with a spell that makes a real sword temporarily disappear as the user wills and that armor can't 'see'. A sort of concealment of the sword from other objects as needed.
 
I mean if we developed the basic Style trait, we might want to work towards making an Advanced Style trait for it before writing the paper; same as how we've got Skaven diplomacy, but if we succeeded in making it a trait it'd have a higher rank called Advanced Skaven diplomacy that we would then start working towards.
If it's alright with you, I'll use develop as a catchall, because we don't know if an advanced trait is available.
 
If WoG decides that a spell to create a shadow sword isn't viable, you might have luck with a spell that makes a real sword that can temporarily disappear as the user wills that armor can't 'see'.
We... we already have it, though?
Well, it sounds like the start of a way to pass on a hypothetical teleporting sword style. 'Just' rework the spell until the wizard can basically flicker whether or not they're holding one, and I think it would have most of the properties of wielding Branulhune; ignoring most armor and doing silly lightsaber tricks is what would make the style unique, the anti-magic debuff is more of a personal bonus.

[X] Parlay with the dragon.
Yes, that's a plausible line of research.
You know you wrote an omake on this, right?
If it's alright with you, I'll use develop as a catchall, because we don't know if an advanced trait is available.
That's fine; sorry to be a bother.
 
Demons are inconsistent which makes them a massive pain. Depending on how the Horned Rat is feeling today it could range from "nothing but a Skaven magic user to serve as a gateway" to "massive, elaborate 13 day long ritual". Basically it's up to BoneyM.
...So you're saying that BoneyM is the Horned Rat? Is that what you're telling me?
 
...So you're saying that BoneyM is the Horned Rat? Is that what you're telling me?
Boney is quite possibly one of the most consistent QMs I can name. Like, top three in total consistency over time, but only because the other two have been posting for years, and his content output per day is particularly impressive even by their standards.
 
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[X] Parlay with the dragon.

Boney is quite possibly one of the most consistent QMs I can name. Like, top three in total consistency over time, but only because the other two have been posting for years, and his content output per day is particularly impressive even by their standards.
Curious who the other two are. One has to be Judge_Mental on SB; Xander Quest missed...I think one day when SB did their XF2 switch? but before that it's been years even if they are significantly shorter posts. Not sure who the second would be.
 
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[X] Loot Clan Eshin (again)

I get wanting to get a dragon as a friend would be great, but I don't think it's really feasible. We are the polar Wind opposite of a dragon that uses Hysh, the dwarves would likely never agree to giving the dragon part of Eight Peaks, and the treasure hoard it's guarding likely will be useful in the future.
 
Curious who the other two are. One has to be Judge_Mental on SB; Xander Quest missed...I think one day when SB did their XF2 switch? but before that it's been years even if they are significantly shorter posts. Not sure who the second would be.
@DragonParadox is easily the most consistent GM I've known.

Years of 3-5 600-1k words updates a day, with maybe a couple weeks total of not posting. Story started at March 16th, 2016, is now at 3.7 million words.
 
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Curious who the other two are. One has to be Judge_Mental on SB; Xander Quest missed...I think one day when SB did their XF2 switch? but before that it's been years even if they are significantly shorter posts. Not sure who the second would be.
Yeah, @Judge Mental and @DragonParadox. They've both got absolutely ridiculous word counts on their quests for a reason, but in terms of post-per-post sizes this quest stands out even then.
 
I am admittedly 20 odd pages behind on the thread now, but rather than talk to anyone or loot has the idea of trying to find the Eshin breeders come up? If they dont have any breeders here isn't the war for eight peaks basically over?
 
No it's not.
It's saying it's easier to approach here in Karag Yar, not that it's easier to fight. Because your diplomat is not freezing his n....nose off, or suffering from altitude sickness, and the dragon is not as arrogant as it would normally be in it's place of power. Or as touchy about strangers being near it's hoard.

Not that it's easier to fight an Emperor Dragon with full combat buffs in Karag Yar.
The point still stands, nothing in the quote implies that approaching is safe.
Just that approaching here is better than in the peak (various reasons, open to interpretation) and that we can easily find a way to approach.
 
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I get wanting to get a dragon as a friend would be great, but I don't think it's really feasible. We are the polar Wind opposite of a dragon that uses Hysh, the dwarves would likely never agree to giving the dragon part of Eight Peaks, and the treasure hoard it's guarding likely will be useful in the future.
If this were true, why would Belegar have sent Kazrik to go find out if the dragon were our enemy or not?

Like, I don't think we're gonna become friends with the dragon, but a non-aggression pact where the dragon acknowledges the dwarf claim to Karag Zilfin in exchange for the dwarves acknowledging its right to territory in the top half seems at least plausible on the face of it. Maybe the dragon will prove to be an arrogant dick and that won't work out, but ice dragons are famously lazy, and we can prove our good-neighbor bona-fides by helping with the skaven and warning about the waaagh.
 
@DragonParadox is easily the most consistent GM I've known.

Years of 3-5 600-1k words updates a day, with maybe a couple weeks total of not posting. Story started at March 16th, 2016, is now at 3.7 million words.
Yeah, @Judge Mental and @DragonParadox. They've both got absolutely ridiculous word counts on their quests for a reason, but in terms of post-per-post sizes this quest stands out even then.
Oh duh. Dunno how I didn't think of that; I followed it religiously for a good two years.

Slightly more on topic, I think we need to talk to the dragon eventually, and the advantage of doing so now is that we can basically guarantee that we're not currently at the top of said dragon's list of annoyances because it hasn't finished exterminating the skaven yet. So even if things go poorly we have a decent chance of not being its immediate priority.
 
I would like to remind everyone that Boney does not post trap options. Talking to the Dragon is not going to be instant death.
 
Slightly more on topic, I think we need to talk to the dragon eventually, and the advantage of doing so now is that we can basically guarantee that we're not currently at the top of said dragon's list of annoyances because it hasn't finished exterminating the skaven yet. So even if things go poorly we have a decent chance of not being its immediate priority.
This is a good point; as an introvert, nothing is worse than leaving the house, dealing with some annoying tasks, finally getting back home... and then being bothered again just as I've gotten comfortable. It's much less aggravating if my phone rings or whatever while I'm already up and about.

(I have spent 12 hours of the last 24 sleeping and all of them inside my apartment and thus I am qualified to emulate the mental state of an ice dragon.)
I would like to remind everyone that Boney does not post trap options. Talking to the Dragon is not going to be instant death.
I mean... "Attack the dragon" is right there on the list of vote options. I am pretty sure that is a stupid fucking idea. But I guess I agree with "doesn't post trap options" in the sense of "there aren't going to be non-obvious 'ha ha you lose immediately' consequences"; obvious risks of the course of action still apply.
 
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I would like to remind everyone that Boney does not post trap options. Talking to the Dragon is not going to be instant death.
He has told us that he is not going to pull punches either.
Remember the Alakazam fight? Or the [] Capture Eshin sorcerer?

If we take a risky option, there is a very real chance we die.
Not going to die just for talking, no, but I say there is a very real chance we die as a consequence.
 
I would like to remind everyone that Boney does not post trap options. Talking to the Dragon is not going to be instant death.
Well, they don't post trap options in the sense that 'Take a relaxing vacation at a campsite' won't end up with us running into the bicentennial Bloodthirster Barbecue, but they're willing to apply the normal and recognized dangers of actions we choose; 'Fight a Master Vampire if you see a chance' has the accepted danger of getting into a fight with a Master Vampire, and we're down a never-replaced-our-spleen-club membership card for the occurrence.
 
Well, as I said before, I dont think that this is a good moments to [ ] Parlay with the dragon.~Snip~

It's been mentioned before in the narration that this is very possible the best chance we will ever get as it's neutral ground, If we're going to diplomance the dragon we might as well try now. Not only that but while the chance of death is always there when dealing with beings powerful enough to accidentally flatten you magically and physically it also doesn't have any particular reason to dislike us or kill us even if we put our foot in our mouth.
 
Or the [] Capture Eshin sorcerer?
I agree with your post in general, but pedantry compels me to point out that was a write-in that he added as a joke after people had been talking about it:
What I'm hearing is that we would get a lot of favor if we managed to capture that sorcerer, bring him back to our lab, and wring all the knowledge we can out of him, as that would fairly conclusively answer the ongoing debate.

Unfortunately, both the fact that he's of Clan Eshin and that he's a mage tend to indicate that attempting a live capture on an active battlefield is a bad idea.
Added option: [ ] Attempt to capture a Clan Eshin Sorcerer for study. (???)
 
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