pucflek
Verified simpleton
- Location
- Czech Republic
I would not say that. Noone is beyond repercussions and having grudge declared against them. This is why he mostly keeps to actions that have precedent or can at least somewhat be explained away.
Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
- Thread starter Boney
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SuperSonicSound
Shadowmancer of the Shadow Cabal
[] FIEF: Leave the current and future money be.
[] [TOWER] Complete
[] [COLLEGE] Write-in.
-[] Anti-poison and gas item (Ill-bane Hysh)
[] Plan:SuperSonicSound
-[] PROJECT: Aethyric Vitae
You're reasonably confident that the magical energies Aethyric Vitae can be made to release could fuel powerful runecraft.
-[] PROJECT: Queekish
Being able to translate Queekish would be a boon for not just the Dwarves, but for all enemies of the Skaven. And you've already made solid progress along this path.
-[] PROJECT: Skaven Politics
Clan Eshin aren't moving against Clan Mors. Clan Skryre seem happy to skirmish against Clan Mors instead of applying the full might of their technosorcery. Something's not right.
-[] PROJECT: Cartographer
Your maps have made significant differences to several battles now. You could map the entirety of Karak Eight Peaks, and enchant a map room so that it would forever display your findings, and could be updated as needed.
[] [LIBRARY] Dragons and Skaven
-[] Dragons! Extensive Dwarven, Esoteric Imperial, Extensive Bretonnian 450 gc 4 College favour.
-[] Skaven Esoteric Dwarven 50 gc 2 Dorf favour
Actual cost of books 200 gc 4 college favour after budget.
+1 to skaven rolls +9 to Dragon rolls.
Assuming Skaven politics wins we'll be working on Qreech for a while longer yet.
[] [TOWER] Complete
[] [COLLEGE] Write-in.
-[] Anti-poison and gas item (Ill-bane Hysh)
[] Plan:SuperSonicSound
-[] PROJECT: Aethyric Vitae
You're reasonably confident that the magical energies Aethyric Vitae can be made to release could fuel powerful runecraft.
-[] PROJECT: Queekish
Being able to translate Queekish would be a boon for not just the Dwarves, but for all enemies of the Skaven. And you've already made solid progress along this path.
-[] PROJECT: Skaven Politics
Clan Eshin aren't moving against Clan Mors. Clan Skryre seem happy to skirmish against Clan Mors instead of applying the full might of their technosorcery. Something's not right.
-[] PROJECT: Cartographer
Your maps have made significant differences to several battles now. You could map the entirety of Karak Eight Peaks, and enchant a map room so that it would forever display your findings, and could be updated as needed.
[] [LIBRARY] Dragons and Skaven
-[] Dragons! Extensive Dwarven, Esoteric Imperial, Extensive Bretonnian 450 gc 4 College favour.
-[] Skaven Esoteric Dwarven 50 gc 2 Dorf favour
Actual cost of books 200 gc 4 college favour after budget.
+1 to skaven rolls +9 to Dragon rolls.
Assuming Skaven politics wins we'll be working on Qreech for a while longer yet.
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- Location
- New Brunswick, NJ
- Pronouns
- He/Him/His
Just as a heads up for people proposing magic item votes: please list the spell's effect and Favour cost if you want people to consider it. You don't have to do it in the body of the vote, but as a line below it would be nice. So something like:
[][COLLEGE] Item of Ill-bane
Costs X College Favour, does Y (ideally Y is a quote from the Spellbook threadmark, plus any other information you think is relevant).
Cause, like, I love you all, but I'm not gonna look up every spell to judge the merits of a proposed College purchase.
[][COLLEGE] Item of Ill-bane
Costs X College Favour, does Y (ideally Y is a quote from the Spellbook threadmark, plus any other information you think is relevant).
Cause, like, I love you all, but I'm not gonna look up every spell to judge the merits of a proposed College purchase.
Yeah, but we're not really taking about the legality of the issue, more about not pissing of the engineer's guild enough for them to unanimously decide to arrange for Gotri to have "an unfortunate prototype explosion, so sad, those radically always rush into things so fast."
Like, the complicated cross section.of authorities coveres stuff this size, but if he did literally provide nuln flame canon he might be dead or exiled within the week.
- Location
- Mexico
And we can propose it, but at this point I see it as highky unlikely to go for it, and then point 3 comes into action and he and the council might be wary of what we are up to, he trusts us, but it might take a hit on his conscience.
We should really have something to show before presenting it, that way he can overlook both point 1 and 3 it's more our style anyway, no need to show our hand with half baked research.
TimEd
Meteor maker
[ ] FIEF: Leave the current and future money be.
Nice. The fief seems to be doing quite well for itself. Though with this gold buiodup, what could even be their next upgrade? Stone walls? Or maybe a bigger town? I dont expect the land to be able to support that big a population.
Nice. The fief seems to be doing quite well for itself. Though with this gold buiodup, what could even be their next upgrade? Stone walls? Or maybe a bigger town? I dont expect the land to be able to support that big a population.
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- Location
- Vancouver
- Location
- Spain
How can we calculate the cost of favor?
It appears fo the battle magics, but not the rest of spells.
I know there was talk about posting a bounty for dragonbone, is that something a lot of people want for a staff or is there any interest in just saving the time and paying favor for a decent one?
Here:
if the casting number is a single digit, it's Relatively Simple and 2 favours. If it's between 10 and 19, it's Moderately Complicated and 3. If it's 20+, it's Fiendishly Complex and 5. I
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- It/They
So we need to learn the secret, then go back and time and take the creators place via illusions, so we mindhole him after he gets the secret.
problem solved.
- Location
- New Brunswick, NJ
- Pronouns
- He/Him/His
Moratorium for ~50 more minutes.
You. Uh. Have a little contradiction there between "No purchase" and "purchasing something."
I'm gonna be straight with you, I just really want to read this scene:
Belegar: "You said you weren't sitting on any other apocalypse weapons! You sat in that very chair and said that! It's been one year!"
Mathilde: "It's not ready for deployment!"
- Location
- United States
So how do yall feel about that speed of light enchantment?
- Location
- Mexico
I want it too! That's why we need to make it an apocalyptic weapon first!
"Is that it?" Pokes the juice " I dunno, after the mountain I was expecting something more you know? But you do you Mathie"
Compare to
"And that's how you use the blood to reforge the weapons of the ancestors"
"You said you had nothing more ready!"
"And I didn't, now I do, there's a queue you know?"
On the subject of The Axe, I wonder if we could get an item of Tale of Metal, and give it to either a very junior, or very, very senior Runesmith's Guild Member In Good Standing, and explain the use of it to him or her, then have them use it, say "east", "north" or "other", then you thank them for their service, see if you can file off their newly-stone pinky finger, and send them to the sculpture par retirement home for guildmembers injured in the line of duty.
Kornet
Quite possibly a sloth abomination
- Location
- Mother Russia
Pretty apathic. I do not think Mathilde needs more war bling merely for war bling's sake.
- Location
- Spain
Yeah, I don't buy it. Pretty weak excuses as to why it must be Mathilda doing the research.
Great thing about Kragg? He's not a blistering imbecile who have trouble simultaneously walking and breathing. Fact is, guy is a really competent +centuries old Runemaster with a Void Anvil. I bet he'd be delighted (in his surly way) by an entirely new avenue of research.
It's called delegation.
"But anyone but Mathilda will blow themselves up, especially Kragg!!!!"
"It's dangerous! We know nothing of this material, really!"
"How can we trust a hyper-competent, super-experienced NPC with this exotic substance!?"
Right... Guess we'll keep sitting on it for the next +30 rounds, then? We've had the liquid for over a year in this thread and over a decade ICly. Kragg, the Colleges or the Mages on Mathilda's payroll? Pretty much ideal candidates to figure out the uses Aetheric Vitae.
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- Location
- Mexico
We should get Max on it, we trust him, he works for us, he knows the scientific method and can do the grunge work, like testing for safety and whatnot. We are criminally underutilizing our golds.
- Location
- New Brunswick, NJ
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- He/Him/His
Genuine, non-rhetorical lore question: have dragons ever caused the fall of a Karak before? I genuinely don't know, not being familiar with the history. Smaug was Public Dwarfemy #1 in Middle-Earth, but I don't know if he has parallels in Warhammer.
This is a needlessly insulting way to introduce yourself to a quest thread (I notice these two are your only posts in Divided Loyalties), but OK, since you asked:
We've discussed this a lot. The consensus was that it maximizes the chances of Kragg wanting to spend his time on it if we present it to him with the magical equivalent of a Safety Data Sheet. He's a dwarf, and he's the arch-conservative of dwarf magical thinking. Coming to him without being able to answer basic questions because we couldn't find the time to find out how safe it is would likely damage our relationship with him, it's that deeply insulting. A research chemist does not pass off a promising substance to a materials engineer if they can't answer "will it explode if I poke it like this" with better than a shrug.
I am entirely in favor of getting Max to take a swing at the transformations of AV.
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- It/They
Because we wont get the credit for it, and this is ours.
- Location
- Brazil
I am all for it, it would be an awesome supermode that closes our biggest close combat weakness.
- Location
- Russia
I don't see how that solves the problem. The problem isn't Max/Johann getting some secrets from that axe. The problem is Empire's capability to do that to any dwarf-made weapon they get their hands on. Every sold item becomes infosec breach. That's why dwarves will stop trading with Empire, not Johann's newfound knowledge. Making an enchanted item capable of this and giving it to a Runesmith doesn't solve that in any way.