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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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Alratan said:
Although I think I'm wasting my time by proposing anything at this point, I'm moving to:

[X] Plan Kill it with Shadow v6
- [X] MAX: Allow him to spend his time on patrol with the gyrocopters so he can finally get to shoot something from one.
- [X] JOHANN: Learn a skill: Find a human trainer in unarmed martial arts
- [X] DUCK: Work with Panoramia to see if your planned shadow murder tower could also come in handy for the crops in the East Valley.
- [X] Have the EIC assist with Princess Edda's search for weavers.
- [X] Investigate the possibility of whether it could be fired without you [tricky; if selected and successful, paranoia will be ramped up automatically]
- [X] Investigate the possibility of somehow amplifying the Tower with Dwarven runecraft [???] - apply the Coin
- [X] Hire the Loremaster with knowledge of weaving to teach the We.
- [X] Seek to establish an in-depth understanding of the Skaven as an individual.
- [X] Travel to the Grey College and attend lessons there.
-- [X] Spell Gatcha.
-- [X] Learn Enchanting
- [X] Have additional rooms excavated underneath your Penthouse: -75gc for 3 rooms.
- [X] The Gambler: Runing up the Tower

As I think it's that important to make sure the Tower runing goes well.
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I will approval vote it.
 
For what it's worth, I am sorry that I seem to have become some sort of monolithic boogeyman to people hoping to give their own plans a shot - I hope everyone here can have fun playing the game, and if my actions get in the way of that, I'd hope I can fix that issue somehow.

I do try to take input on my plans into account during the discussion period, and offer alternatives for people who disagree with one or two small contentious points.
 
Alratan said:
Although I think I'm wasting my time by proposing anything at this point, I'm moving to:

[X] Plan Kill it with Shadow v6
- [X] MAX: Allow him to spend his time on patrol with the gyrocopters so he can finally get to shoot something from one.
- [X] JOHANN: Learn a skill: Find a human trainer in unarmed martial arts
- [X] DUCK: Work with Panoramia to see if your planned shadow murder tower could also come in handy for the crops in the East Valley.
- [X] Have the EIC assist with Princess Edda's search for weavers.
- [X] Investigate the possibility of whether it could be fired without you [tricky; if selected and successful, paranoia will be ramped up automatically]
- [X] Investigate the possibility of somehow amplifying the Tower with Dwarven runecraft [???] - apply the Coin
- [X] Hire the Loremaster with knowledge of weaving to teach the We.
- [X] Seek to establish an in-depth understanding of the Skaven as an individual.
- [X] Travel to the Grey College and attend lessons there.
-- [X] Spell Gatcha.
-- [X] Learn Enchanting
- [X] Have additional rooms excavated underneath your Penthouse: -75gc for 3 rooms.
- [X] The Gambler: Runing up the Tower

As I think it's that important to make sure the Tower runing goes well.
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Building the tower takes up the penthouse construction slot. I think you could still use the free action to set the spare room up as a library or make the dungeon extra secure. @BoneyM is that right?
 
noliar said:
Max spends up to half his time doing our assignment. If that assignment involves spending time with the prisoner that's three times the time with company compared to a Mathilde action and no month long break for study in Altdorf.
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Would work for keeping him sane, but I'm not sure how much useful info we'll get on who the Skaven is from that. Max doesn't really have the background to see through lies and/or understand strange mindsets, after all, so it'd probably depend heavily on how cooperative the Skaven is feeling.
 
and once again the Snek Juice falls through the cracks.

can any of the mean plans find a way to it back on the list?

if we don't keep at it...
 
[X] TotallyNotEvil

I would prefer to have Max do something useful this turn, like writing a paper on observed Waaagh, or study the vials.
 
[X] Plan Kill it with Shadow v6
[X] Plan Redshirt v5 (Different Max Action)

I'll approval vote you, @Alratan, but won't unvote SSS's plan just yet since I want gyromax to happen and his plan has a best chance for it right now.
@Redshirt Army, I can't speak for anyone but myself, but I don't have an issue with your plans winning - you take in feedback and change them accordingly.
 
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ChronOblivion said:
Nah, it's the rest of that plan that I don't like, including making Max interrogate a Skaven despite having no skill for doing so.
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Yay feedback!

Whereas I'm confident that by the end of the first month Max will be its best friend in the world and teaching him Queekish will be the highlight of its day*. A social being with only one source of company will depend on it.

*because when they're not working it has to deal with Max's drama queen personality.
 
BoneyM said:
It technically could, but it'd be so classified that maybe twelve people total will be allowed to read it.
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I realize twelve probably isn't a literal number, but just for fun, I imagine the list is something like this: :smile:
-Mathilde herself
-King Belegar
-High King Grudgebutton
-Kragg the Grim
-Patriarch Towerdefense
-The Grey Order's Battlemagic-Enchanter
-Supreme Patriarch Pantsless
-Emperor Childless
-Empress Ranaldite
-The Imperial Spymaster
-The Grand Theogonist
-Teclis of Ulthuan
 
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Redshirt Army said:
For what it's worth, I am sorry that I seem to have become some sort of monolithic boogeyman to people hoping to give their own plans a shot - I hope everyone here can have fun playing the game, and if my actions get in the way of that, I'd hope I can fix that issue somehow.

I do try to take input on my plans into account during the discussion period, and offer alternatives for people who disagree with one or two small contentious points.
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You are absolutely fine. You took people's suggestions, which is why you're winning imho.

You wouldn't be monolithic without people liking and trusting your plan making and methodology.
 
BoneyM said:
It technically could, but it'd be so classified that maybe twelve people total will be allowed to read it.
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Still could be very useful. Think about having a tower like that over Black Fire Pass, maintained by the Gray College?

And if other dwarf holds are convinced, Peak Pass (Karak Kadrin) would be a prime location.
 
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The little vacation token we got does have me imagining Mathilde last minute being like "btw going to go live with the elves for a quarter year, don't wait up" and everyone in the Grey College (or like The Entire World) just flipping their shit.

I imagine the scenario where Mathilde leverages a drip feed of that sweet primo elfland info in exchange for free college prep training for the trip, but I don't think she'd want to do that at the expense of potential shattering elf papers. :V
 
NSMS said:
Would work for keeping him sane, but I'm not sure how much useful info we'll get on who the Skaven is from that. Max doesn't really have the background to see through lies and/or understand strange mindsets, after all, so it'd probably depend heavily on how cooperative the Skaven is feeling.
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He taught the We Reichspiel. He has Law of Logic and Patience. He can devote more time to the project than Mathilde. The Skaven has every reason to cooperate. The job is not extracting secrets, it's learning a language and Max is better suited to it than Mathilde herself.
 
noliar said:
He taught the We Reichspiel. He has Law of Logic and Patience. He can devote more time to the project than Mathilde. The Skaven has every reason to cooperate. The job is not extracting secrets, it's learning a language and Max is better suited to it than Mathilde herself.
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Also Max is our underling. Skaven, applying Skaven logic, will assume he is out to get us and will try to scheme with him against us aiming to backstab both of us and to regain his freedom. This interaction will be hilarious. Actually, I'll even make a plan with it myself!

[X] Plan Skaven-max
-[X] Overwork: +1.
-[X] MAX: Write-in: Seek to build a lexicon to translate between Khazalid to Queekish. (or just keep him company if that is invalid action for him)
-[X] JOHANN: Learn a skill: Kung Fu barehanded martial arts.
-[X] Have the EIC assist with Princess Edda's search for weavers.
-[x] DUCK: Work with Panoramia to see if your planned shadow murder tower could also come in handy for the crops in the East Valley.
-[X] Build a Tower of Burning Death (automatic, no action cost, favours and money paid by Belegar)
--[x] Call Algard for 10 favors.
-[X] Investigate the possibility of creating a very bright light source to use the mountain at will [very tricky]
-[X] Investigate the possibility of somehow amplifying the Tower with Dwarven runecraft
-[X] Investigate the possibility of whether it could be fired without you [tricky; if selected and successful, paranoia will be ramped up automatically]
-[X] College Lessons
--[X] Enchanting
---[X] Gambler
--[X] Spell Gacha
-[X] [Serenity] Personal understanding of countering Waaagh magic
-[x] Hire a Priest of Esmerelda to teach the We.
-[X] PENTHOUSE: Have additional rooms excavated underneath your Penthouse: -75gc for 3 rooms.

I'll still approval-vote for these:
[X] Plan Kill it with Shadow v6
[X] Plan Redshirt v5 (Different Max Action)
 
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[X] Plan Redshirt v5
-[X] COIN: Gambler
-[X] MAX: Study an artefact: Eshin Throwing Star
-[X] JOHANN: Learn a skill: Pugilism, from a trainer.
-[x] DUCK: Work with Panoramia to see if your planned shadow murder tower could also come in handy for the crops in the East Valley.
-[X] EIC: Have the EIC assist with Princess Edda's search for weavers.
-[X] WE: Hire a Priest of Esmerelda to teach the We.
-[X] Travel to the Grey College and attend lessons there:
--[X] Enchanting
--[X] Attempt to Learn Multiple Spells
---[X] Apply Coin
-[X] Investigate the possibility of whether it could be fired without you [tricky; if selected and successful, paranoia will be ramped up automatically]
--[X] Spend 10 College Favor to entice Algard to help build the tower.
-[X] Investigate the possibility of somehow amplifying the Tower with Dwarven runecraft
-[X] OVERWORK: Seek to establish an in-depth understanding of the Skaven as an individual.
-[X] PENTHOUSE: Have additional rooms excavated underneath your Penthouse: -75gc for 3 rooms.
-[X] SERENITY: Write a paper on the suite of advanced zombie empowerment and control spells used by Alkharad and his disciples.
 
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