A dead vampire is it's own reward. That battle would have involved a lot more dice if that hadn't happened, and every soldier that died or was wounded there was one less for Drakenhof.
Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
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A dead vampire is it's own reward. That battle would have involved a lot more dice if that hadn't happened, and every soldier that died or was wounded there was one less for Drakenhof.
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I guess in a technical sense it is, but I believe reviving a vampire from a single cleaned bone would take an extremly skilled Necromancer.
If someone with that power is in our lab we have bigger issues.
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Mathilde should really write up and submit a paper on the combination of Sigmar's holy light and Ulgu.
Not only could it be very useful if reproduced (almost certainly in lesser form), but it's also a politically and socially very useful thing for the Colleges time able to publicise to the Church of Sigmar, as this was basically their god. I suspect several spells may have started as one of amazing good luck like this.
It's something important enough to do right now, and Mathilde should realise the implications.
Not only could it be very useful if reproduced (almost certainly in lesser form), but it's also a politically and socially very useful thing for the Colleges time able to publicise to the Church of Sigmar, as this was basically their god. I suspect several spells may have started as one of amazing good luck like this.
It's something important enough to do right now, and Mathilde should realise the implications.
Sinsystems
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Lets not, she just finished one paper. Give the girl a break.
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No Mastered Burning Shadows?
An extremely skilled necormancer can restore a vampire that's been burned to ash and scattered to the four winds. Vampires usually get raised by lesser necromancers and lots of sacrifices.
Tough. This is her actual job, and is really, really, really important. Sigmar blessing a wizard's spell so obviously an directly in front of unimpeachable witnesses should be a massive deal that would be an incredible waste not to capitalise on. Capitalising on it has to be done immediately before memories as evidence fades and people opposed to magic users strike first to discredit the event.
Her highest loyalty is to the Empire, and this is a big deal to the Empire, spiritually and politically.
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I don't think there was anything unique about this, just two crits combining how effective they are.
Getting real If You Give A Mouse A Cookie in here.
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[X] Plan Fighting the Empire's enemies
-[X] The Dwarves have crossed into the Empire and joined up with the Empire forces. Perhaps you could spend some time with the general staff as the two of them start to work together.
--[X] Ranald's Blessing
-[X] Practice, Practice, Practice: Having been thrown into the deep end of imperial politics, it would probably be a good idea to brush up on your skills and internalize the lessons you've learned (choose which trait; can be taken multiple times; will be more effective if you've used the trait a lot lately).
--[X] Martial
-[X] The Dwarves have crossed into the Empire and joined up with the Empire forces. Perhaps you could spend some time with the general staff as the two of them start to work together.
--[X] Ranald's Blessing
-[X] Practice, Practice, Practice: Having been thrown into the deep end of imperial politics, it would probably be a good idea to brush up on your skills and internalize the lessons you've learned (choose which trait; can be taken multiple times; will be more effective if you've used the trait a lot lately).
--[X] Martial
Sigmar, a god famously claimed to hate arcane magic, just blessed a wizard's spell. The combination of the miracle of his holy light and shadow magic didn't explode or cancel each other out, or anything like the fundamentalist wizard haters in the Cult of Sigmar would have insisted they would, they combined to destroy the enemies of the Emperor, just like the Cult and the Colleges should. This is special and very likely completely unique. Particularly in the context of having an Elector Count and his entire army as witnesses, making it very, very hard for the fundamentalists to sweep under the carpet.
Promoting this kind of thing, the various institutions of the Empire working together, is one of the core responsibilities of the Grey College.
OOC we know it's the result of a double crit. So what. IC, that's totally irrelevant.
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[X] Plan Fighting the Empire's enemies
[X] Plan More Magical Research
-[X] Qhaysh Juice: Whatever it is, it's dripping out of the box at a steady rate. You've got several gallons of the stuff and it's still coming out. It's got to be good for something.
--[X] Ranald's Blessing
-[X] Enchantment: You're naturally talented at enchantment; so far, this just amounts to being able to make your desk meow for about an hour. See if you can improve on that, or at least figure out a way to make that useful.
So far we've only used it in combat once. I'm gona guess that mastered is knowing all the tricks and improving them and what we did was Play whack a vamp with sigmar's light as a backdrop. Very impressive but in a very pre set conditions kind of way.
-[X] Qhaysh Juice: Whatever it is, it's dripping out of the box at a steady rate. You've got several gallons of the stuff and it's still coming out. It's got to be good for something.
--[X] Ranald's Blessing
-[X] Enchantment: You're naturally talented at enchantment; so far, this just amounts to being able to make your desk meow for about an hour. See if you can improve on that, or at least figure out a way to make that useful.
So far we've only used it in combat once. I'm gona guess that mastered is knowing all the tricks and improving them and what we did was Play whack a vamp with sigmar's light as a backdrop. Very impressive but in a very pre set conditions kind of way.
That's matter of propaganda, not scademia.
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Okay, sure, this is obvious material for a propaganda win, the sort of thing that the Colleges of Magic need a lot of to gradually build up their reputations in the Empire so that they become more widely acceptable. I'm with you that far. But shouldn't the appropriate method of promotion be more along the lines of "brofist Kasmir, see if he can write a few sermons on how awesome it is that the Colleges can bend their arts to Sigmar's service, as evidenced by that" instead of "write an academic paper, submit to Colleges for review"?
The Colleges as a whole already want to work with the Church and believe that doing so is feasible; it's the Church that doesn't want to work with the Colleges. If we decide that this is a propaganda victory that we should be capitalizing on then it's the Church relationship that needs to be the focus.
Edit: If Mathilde was going to do a genuine scholarly investigation of arcane-divine magical interactions she literally has a couple Ranald priest friends who would probably be happy to try and shove some of Ranald's grant-ally-a-reroll blessing spells into her Matrix while she watches, possibly dozens of times in a row. But you're not talking about doing a study or examination of phenomena here, you're talking about building rep in the wider Empire and religious organizations thereof, and that has little to do with writing papers.
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It's both, as to truly prove this you need to work out how to replicate this on a smaller scale under controlled circumstances, which is all scholarship, all the way down.
In canon they don't, generally. The Colleges believe know what the gods actually are (that they're the same kind of entity as the chaos gods, formed from human belief, made of the same stuff and living in the same place), and tell (important) people about it. It's one reason that the Empire's wizards aren't sorcerers, because they generally don't have faith in the gods of humanity, instead seeing them as allied warp creatures, rather than divine. A lot of wizards are apparently 'atheists'. The hate goes both ways. Only so many of your friends and pupils can be stoned to death or burned at the stake before you really start to properly hate the people doing it and the god that empowers them to do so.
This is proof to the wizards that working with the cults is worth the hassle.
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[x] Plan Swords and Snake Juice
-[x] Really Good Swords: You have achieved proficiency with the Greatsword. Future progress is possible, though it will take more effort to see results.
-[x] Qhaysh Skunkworks: It would take careful study to unlock the secrets of the liquid. It would take considerably less time to find out if it can be made to burn, or explode, or do something militarily useful.
--[x] Ranald's blessing
All experimenting starts with semi-random messing about to see if things explode
-[x] Really Good Swords: You have achieved proficiency with the Greatsword. Future progress is possible, though it will take more effort to see results.
-[x] Qhaysh Skunkworks: It would take careful study to unlock the secrets of the liquid. It would take considerably less time to find out if it can be made to burn, or explode, or do something militarily useful.
--[x] Ranald's blessing
All experimenting starts with semi-random messing about to see if things explode
[X] Plan More Magical Research
-[X] Qhaysh Juice: Whatever it is, it's dripping out of the box at a steady rate. You've got several gallons of the stuff and it's still coming out. It's got to be good for something.
--[X] Ranald's Blessing
-[X] Enchantment: You're naturally talented at enchantment; so far, this just amounts to being able to make your desk meow for about an hour. See if you can improve on that, or at least figure out a way to make that useful.
-[X] Qhaysh Juice: Whatever it is, it's dripping out of the box at a steady rate. You've got several gallons of the stuff and it's still coming out. It's got to be good for something.
--[X] Ranald's Blessing
-[X] Enchantment: You're naturally talented at enchantment; so far, this just amounts to being able to make your desk meow for about an hour. See if you can improve on that, or at least figure out a way to make that useful.
Training with the greatswords practices your greatswording, not your raw martial.
Dadarian
The King of Queen's
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Alectai
Speaks Words of Wisdom... On occasion
Yeah, bagging a Vampire is always a good thing. Bagging them before they can fuck up your army is better.
Arcane Marks though are scary--we got one of the less bad ones there at least. Most of the ones after Flicker are serious problems.
Still, fun synergy times there--we got to fake Battle Magic by way of an unexpected synergy between two "Conventional" spells! We would have had a lot more casualties than we did if a Vampire was allowed to go to town in a melee with us, instead of being boiled away before they closed to melee.
Arcane Marks though are scary--we got one of the less bad ones there at least. Most of the ones after Flicker are serious problems.
Still, fun synergy times there--we got to fake Battle Magic by way of an unexpected synergy between two "Conventional" spells! We would have had a lot more casualties than we did if a Vampire was allowed to go to town in a melee with us, instead of being boiled away before they closed to melee.
Guile
Having a really great time right now
Bad for our ability to read in bed, but good for our Magister bid.