Point. and you aren't the first on to suggest it. I'll switch.
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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
- Thread starter Boney
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- warhammer warhammer fantasy fantasy be gay do crimes (gay) female protagonist pansexual protagonist ck2 quest divided loyalties mountain vietnam ranald is real this is a dwarf quest (dwarfs) this is maybe an elf quest this is not a vampire quest this is not an empire quest try it and find out open voting
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Eh, not exactly. If it's neuroparalytic then nerve damage can result? Either way... no thanks.
In addition, overwork 'accumulates' IIRC- it's really only for Emergency Times.
New actions were apparently added after I first looked for going after Mors directly
Now with:
[ ] You've mapped the territory of Clan Mors. Go down there and cause some havoc.
For going in heavy on anti-Citadel
[] Turn 20 Down with Clan Mors
-[ ] [Max] Current Task: Have Maximillian teach the We written Reikspiel.
-[ ] [Johann] Allow him to spend all his time investigating Clan Mors.
-[ ] [EIC] Instil corporate policy: always be scrupulously honest when dealing with Dwarves.
-[ ] Request the translation item yourself (does not cost an action; converts 3 College Favour to Dwarf Favour).
-[ ] Help the We establish their new nest below the Citadel.
-[ ] You have acquired the possession of the Temple where Ranald mugged Mork. Set up a shrine and spread knowledge of it throughout Karag Nar.
-[ ] You've mapped the territory of Clan Mors. Go down there and cause some havoc.
--[] Ranald's Coin - The Gambler on this one.
-[ ] Investigate the constantly-dripping blood of the Wisdom's Asp. Current accumulation: 12 gallons.
-[ ] [PENT] Have additional rooms excavated underneath your Penthouse: -50gc for 2 rooms.
-[ ] [SOC] Spend time assisting with a fellow councillor's task: Help Gunnar with Tomb Construction
-[ ] [COIN] The Gambler: Investigate Pressure on Clan Mors
[] Turn 20 Down with Clan Mors - Extra Actions
-[ ] [Max] Current Task: Have Maximillian teach the We written Reikspiel.
-[ ] [Johann] Allow him to spend all his time investigating Clan Mors.
-[ ] [EIC] Instil corporate policy: always be scrupulously honest when dealing with Dwarves.
-[ ] Request the translation item yourself (does not cost an action; converts 3 College Favour to Dwarf Favour).
-[ ] Help the We establish their new nest below the Citadel.
-[ ] You have acquired the possession of the Temple where Ranald mugged Mork. Set up a shrine and spread knowledge of it throughout Karag Nar.
-[ ] You've mapped the territory of Clan Mors. Go down there and cause some havoc.
--[] Ranald's Coin - The Gambler on this one.
-[ ] Investigate the constantly-dripping blood of the Wisdom's Asp. Current accumulation: 12 gallons.
-[ ] [ADD] Additional Task - Study the webs the We produce.
-[ ] [ADD] Additional Task - Perform a series of autopsies upon the corpses of the We; they have confirmed they are okay with this, and would otherwise simply eat them.
-[ ] [PENT] Have additional rooms excavated underneath your Penthouse: -50gc for 2 rooms.
-[ ] [SOC] Spend time assisting with a fellow councillor's task: Help Gunnar with Tomb Construction
-[ ] [COIN] The Gambler: Investigate Pressure on Clan Mors
Now with:
[ ] You've mapped the territory of Clan Mors. Go down there and cause some havoc.
For going in heavy on anti-Citadel
[] Turn 20 Down with Clan Mors
-[ ] [Max] Current Task: Have Maximillian teach the We written Reikspiel.
-[ ] [Johann] Allow him to spend all his time investigating Clan Mors.
-[ ] [EIC] Instil corporate policy: always be scrupulously honest when dealing with Dwarves.
-[ ] Request the translation item yourself (does not cost an action; converts 3 College Favour to Dwarf Favour).
-[ ] Help the We establish their new nest below the Citadel.
-[ ] You have acquired the possession of the Temple where Ranald mugged Mork. Set up a shrine and spread knowledge of it throughout Karag Nar.
-[ ] You've mapped the territory of Clan Mors. Go down there and cause some havoc.
--[] Ranald's Coin - The Gambler on this one.
-[ ] Investigate the constantly-dripping blood of the Wisdom's Asp. Current accumulation: 12 gallons.
-[ ] [PENT] Have additional rooms excavated underneath your Penthouse: -50gc for 2 rooms.
-[ ] [SOC] Spend time assisting with a fellow councillor's task: Help Gunnar with Tomb Construction
-[ ] [COIN] The Gambler: Investigate Pressure on Clan Mors
[] Turn 20 Down with Clan Mors - Extra Actions
-[ ] [Max] Current Task: Have Maximillian teach the We written Reikspiel.
-[ ] [Johann] Allow him to spend all his time investigating Clan Mors.
-[ ] [EIC] Instil corporate policy: always be scrupulously honest when dealing with Dwarves.
-[ ] Request the translation item yourself (does not cost an action; converts 3 College Favour to Dwarf Favour).
-[ ] Help the We establish their new nest below the Citadel.
-[ ] You have acquired the possession of the Temple where Ranald mugged Mork. Set up a shrine and spread knowledge of it throughout Karag Nar.
-[ ] You've mapped the territory of Clan Mors. Go down there and cause some havoc.
--[] Ranald's Coin - The Gambler on this one.
-[ ] Investigate the constantly-dripping blood of the Wisdom's Asp. Current accumulation: 12 gallons.
-[ ] [ADD] Additional Task - Study the webs the We produce.
-[ ] [ADD] Additional Task - Perform a series of autopsies upon the corpses of the We; they have confirmed they are okay with this, and would otherwise simply eat them.
-[ ] [PENT] Have additional rooms excavated underneath your Penthouse: -50gc for 2 rooms.
-[ ] [SOC] Spend time assisting with a fellow councillor's task: Help Gunnar with Tomb Construction
-[ ] [COIN] The Gambler: Investigate Pressure on Clan Mors
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Chimeraguard
We do deserve to exist.
Would we need to know the Skaven language for this? Actually, it'd probably be a good idea to learn the Skaven language anyway. Do the Dwarves have books on this we could buy to make it easier? I'd imagine they've got it down somewhere so they can better understand what the enemy is saying.
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I want to teach the We writing to increase their long term memory storage potential. oral tradition is nice and all, but written stuff tends to last longer.
chocolote12
A Penguin Flailing Against The Keyboard Of Life.
Because now we're allowed to have fun with being a wizard, rather than scraping up little bits of opportunity here or there. Being a wizard is fun.
Would a plan to get the We to think that we are helping them using the Protector coin work (as in mechanically, assuming a rationale along the lines of 'My successfully acting to relocate you somewhere acceptable will ensure your safety from Skaven retaliation')?
Not on the spoken language, but they've got references on the more common runes that have a single meaning. It's part of 'Skaven' in general.
That ability is nowhere near that conceptual.
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Issue with this is whether we actually trust the We yet. Teaching Reikspiel lets them communicate with people outside of our control.
Abby Normal
High Clerk of the Ymaryn
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I'm pretty found of this plan; in particular i like that its not switching the college favor for dwarven; i at least tentatively think college will be more useful now that we have the sword. Not sure we need both wolf action and gunnar action, though, so depending on what votes are around when i wake up i'll prolly choose whatever variation on this sort of plan strikes me as best
Plus doesn't having two Overwork actions mean that there's an even bigger penalty than normal?
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Guys, I'm not seeing if the Protector would even trigger with what we are doing, much less work on them.
Furthermore, this turn looks like a great place to start researching the snake juice, as we can put the Gambler bonus on it without worry.
Also, it seems that cashing in favor automatically succeeds, while delivering Belegar's request might require a roll. More reason to go for it.
Meanwhile, them fucking up when we went out of our way to establish a branch immediately, when we partially own the place, is beyond embarassing, and might even ding our Reputation.
Furthermore, this turn looks like a great place to start researching the snake juice, as we can put the Gambler bonus on it without worry.
Also, it seems that cashing in favor automatically succeeds, while delivering Belegar's request might require a roll. More reason to go for it.
A long term goal of that magnitude won't suffer any from a six month delay, we are talking 10+ years here at a minimum.
Meanwhile, them fucking up when we went out of our way to establish a branch immediately, when we partially own the place, is beyond embarassing, and might even ding our Reputation.
This makes it significantly better than I thought.
I have updated the plan further, although I did decide to swap favor on the basis that Dwarf favor is much more difficult to come by in the long term.I'm pretty found of this plan; in particular i like that its not switching the college favor for dwarven; i at least tentatively think college will be more useful now that we have the sword. Not sure we need both wolf action and gunnar action, though, so depending on what votes are around when i wake up i'll prolly choose whatever variation on this sort of plan strikes me as best
Yes, let us grant the alien hive intelligence the tool of writing, that they may amass knowledge from one This-We to Another This-We forming webs of insight beyond that of the most resonant Echo, and one day even pass it from We to Other-We.
Nothing bad can ever come of this.
I know you're not entirely joking about that, but having our entire ability to communicate with the resting on a single (losable) magic item kind of seems like a bad idea too. Even if not actually lost, a magic item can only be in one place at a time, and sometimes a spider might need to make itself understood out "in the field".
"SKAVEN COMING" to perimeter guards could save lives someday.
Then the magic item is for sophisticated negotiations.
chocolote12
A Penguin Flailing Against The Keyboard Of Life.
Hence asking. We don't know. But as they are people, it doesn't seem unreasonable that it feasibly could, so the only big obstacle might be actually doing something for their benefit to trigger it.
Love this plan. Good synergy, doesn't tunnel-vision on the short term. Has Wolf and Snake.
Given geography and international trade I would be astounded if the Old World has coffee.
Might get a little coming west on caravans if we are lucky though.
DarkLight140
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I am many pages behind on discussion, but I'm seeing a lot of plans which go with delivering Belegar's request instead of converting favor. I would like to remind people that there is a Lifetime Favor Gained score which forms the basis for both College and Dwarf Rep, and that means it is always desirable to gain more favor of either type when we have the opportunity. In a case like this, we'd be changing 3 Favor for 3 Favor- but we'd also be gaining 3 Dwarf Rep while losing no College Rep. This means that it is more profitable, in reputational terms, to act as a middleman between our two sources of favor than to have them interact with one another directly- as expected; the middleman always makes bank.
So when planning, remember this. And vote:
[ ] Request the translation item yourself (does not cost an action; converts 3 College Favour to Dwarf Favour).
Well, let's ask. @BoneyM, would the Protector side of the coin trigger when we move the spiders? What does Mathilde think the effect would be?
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People, the sentinent spiders are cool and all, but please, step on the brakes there for a moment.
They have no concept of morals whatsoever, and people are talking about introducing them to religion?
They can't conceptualize trade yet.
They have no concept of morals whatsoever, and people are talking about introducing them to religion?
They can't conceptualize trade yet.
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Vote on it for me when the moratorium lifts, please. I will be dead asleep.
On that note, ciao.
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We have no indication that they are going to fuck up immediately, though, and a lot of indication that the EIC is dangerous if we do not take it in hand. Again: Mathilde considered dismantling it herself. We have a lot of capacity to mitigate the damage if they put their foot in it while dealing with the dwarves, and no capacity to mitigate the damage if the rot sets in at a corporate culture level before we immunize it.
I know it's a long-term project, but the EIC is growing super fast, aided in no small part by our own efforts. The sooner we start, the sooner it self-propagates.
If you have to explain why that counts instead of it being absolutely straightforward obvious, you're barking up the wrong tree. "Killed Skaven that were going to attack you." Sure. "Distracted them so they couldn't attack you even though they were gonna," fine. "See because I personally mapped out a home for you that was behind our defences, I am saving you from potential future attacks-" no.
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The sooner we set this groundrule down, the sooner we can start working on decade-long objectives.
Pay closer attention, most of the new actions are about trading with dwarves. The trend should only continue.
This is downright a requirement to continue making good use of these EIC actions, and exactly the sort of thing we are taking them at all for.
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But I mean, they know all about being a part of something bigger than themselves.
I don't think it is a good idea to do the snake juice this turn, because of the way the quest uses the rolls to influence the narrative. My fear is that getting a low roll this turn will retroactively make the juice narratively less useful. We can wait for one more turn while we build a tricked out laboratory.