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I imagine the vault as a durable locked room with individually locked storage lockers and boxes.

Stuff we might put there includes half-done enchantments put into a container so that the magic holds for a while. Similarly, the gallons upon gallons of magic juice I wouldn't a journeymanling to get curious about if they are just stored in an unsecured lab. Might also include dangerous artifacts we have recovered and are going to study, but don't want contaminating anything else while we are busy.

We might also allow Magisters like Johann to store recovered warpstone devices. Keep them in secure storage while investigating one in isolation etc.

We should be using the King's Armoury.
I don't want to regularly carry dangerous stuff across the whole mountain. Actually, is the King's Armoury even in the same mountain as the penthouse?
 
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While this is funny, it also strikes me as a severe violation of the Articles of Imperial Magic for personal petty feuds. Anton is cute but he's not "Did you have a good reason to extort the nobles of Sigmar's Holy Empire?" cute when someone complains and the Grey Order starts investigating.
I'm pretty sure you can conduct some kind of argument to the tune of "Somone capable of calling forth a dragon is a possible asset to the Empire" and "Someone manipulating that other person is a possible threat to the Empire."

Further pointing out the diplomatic snarl he cleared and imagining how big snarls he could make with an abusive handler, and the argument goes something to the tune of "He counts as a Diplomatic Battle Wizard. I'm keeping an eye out and makeing sure the superweapon does not fall into the wrong hands." as someone with his skills wielded by someone skilled in Intrigues is a genuine threat to the stability of the Province and thus the Empire and to be kept an eye on. The same way Whilhelmina had an "Oh, shit Grey Wizard moment" when she told Mat how powerful the EIC was getting.

That it helps a friend is a side boon.
 
... I guess? I mean, right now all our research materials, enchanted items and the Liber Mortis could just fit in the Liber Mortis trunk. Since all we've acquired are the helldrake scales, the Liber Mortis and personal enchanted items, and all.

I really don't want to put snake juice next to the Liber Mortis. The book has been pretty benign so far but that seems like it would have a nonzero risk of making us rename the Karak.

While this is funny, it also strikes me as a severe violation of the Articles of Imperial Magic for personal petty feuds. Anton is cute but he's not "Did you have a good reason to extort the nobles of Sigmar's Holy Empire?" cute when someone complains and the Grey Order starts investigating.

If we needed to make arrangements, we'd have to be pretty subtle/indirect about it. It would probably take the form of any family messing with Anton too hard having some spectacularly, horrifically bad luck in the Intrigue department. Even if it is noticed, that's entirely justifiable considering his shares in the EIC, personal connection with Asarnil and list of achievements.

The counter is that Mathilde uses the 700 GC to turn the book exchange into a public library, with the 700 GC being presented as a donation she makes on behalf fo the community.

Yeah, at worst Mathilde just turns into a dealer, relying on her existing customers to get new people hooked. The subculture would still exist, with discussion and recommendations still being made, with probably more than a few quiet wars happening between the fandoms of different series
 
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If we really must get rid if our money soon, I imagine that now that we expanded EIC to k8p there will be all kinds of opportunities to invest in k8p industry and infrastructure.

Mathilde probably shouldn't invest. Point things out to others or offer zero interest loans sure but actively investing is really iffy considering how rich she already is.
 
Appearing in someone's bedroom in the middle of the night and issuing worse-than-death threats is not a pleasant conversation.
That's not extortion, that's a warning. Imagine a paparazzi looking for juicy story stumbles onto something labeled Top Secret, and the NSA brings them in on an informative conversation where they make clear just how deep in Gunatanamo Bay they will put them if they leak those secrets.

That's not extortion, that's the spy side of the Government telling you you are threading dangerous ground.

Mind you, it's not a serious omake, but I don't think it's "Breach the Articles of Magic" bad.
 
Mathilde probably shouldn't invest. Point things out to others or offer zero interest loans sure but actively investing is really iffy considering how rich she already is.

If she created the Tavern/Shrine/Casino, she'd probably have to either dedicate the proceeds to the local Cult of Ranald or devote the proceeds into funding local and imperial wide Ranaldite causes.
 
Mathilde probably shouldn't invest. Point things out to others or offer zero interest loans sure but actively investing is really iffy considering how rich she already is.
I really don't get your position. Pointing things to others is actively detrimental to our interest of "getting rid of the liquid capital" , while zero loans are only useful in a fringe case when goodwill from that particular person is just that damn useful.

The grey order has no issue with EIC as long as it works ethically, the grey order has no issue with us spending money as long as it goes to dwarven community, therefore, we should pay dwarves to build money-generating things and transfer those to EIC ownership (because that is our instrument for managing our economic assets).
 
Last minute thoughts regarding something that was brought up in thread before was the idea that Mathilde wouldn't be very good for suggesting ideas regarding the armour due to her diplomacy stat being low. It's worth keeping in mind that the value and power of symbols on the psyche is something that would absolutely come under what Intrigue represents. A big part of the Diplomacy stat revolves around how personable you are which would be a much lesser issue here.

Where as what we know of Mathildes Intrigue states the following.

Intrigue: 16+2+1=19 - You've developed a somewhat frightening understanding of how to disassemble all kinds of psyches.

The kind of understanding of the psyche implied by that suggests that Mathilde has a good idea of what kind of levers will be pulled on when she suggests the idea of reforging the armour.
 
On the topic of EIC: I have a rather radical proposal: what if we sell some EIC shares to k8p?

I mean, we are already expanding EIC to k8p. Goving Belegar acstake in the business would make him look more favorably on EIC economic presence in k8p AND start increasing economic relations between Styrland and k8p, boosting both economies and tying them politically to each other, so one woyld help the other purely to protect economic interests.

I may be thinking too big here, as EIC is not that big right now to be a politicoeconomical factor, but it looks like it's getting there.

Thoughts?


Besides, think of the political and economical benefits forvthe empire from this move, and those ??? amount of college favours we could get for those!
 
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I don't think it's "Breach the Articles of Magic" bad.
Sure, just a non-canon piece of fun, but Article 6 probably disagrees. Antons suitors just aren't that serious a matter. :V
6. No Magister may cast a spell or enchantment outside of the theatre of war and in public view without first being requested to by the Emperor, the Electors of Sigmar's Holy Empire, or another legitimate employer as defined by the Articles of this document. All spells and enchantments cast without these permission may only be done so with and for demonstrably good reason.
Of course, we should really be more worried about 7.
7. No Magister may ever study the Forbidden Lores of the Daemonic Powers, nor the unholy ways of Necromancy, nor any other sorcery or witchcraft that utilises the wicked powers of Dark Magic. Any Magister found disregarding this Article is guilty of an Abominable Act and is both Heretic and Traitor and will be put to sword and fire immediately.
 
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On the topic of EIC: I have a rather radical proposal: what if we sell some EIC shares to k8p?

I mean, we are already expanding EIC to k8p. Goving Belegar acstake in the business would make him look more favorably on EIC economic presence in k8p AND start increasing economic relations between Styrland and k8p, boosting both economies and tying them politically to each other, so one woyld help the other purely to protect economic interests.

I may be thinking too big here, as EIC is not that big right now to be a politicoeconomical factor, but it looks like it's getting there.

Thoughts?
It may be a difficult sell. I don't know how the dwarfs view investment but it could be only certain clans deal with business in such a fashion. The dwarfs seem to favor the idea of certain clans deal with certain things and I don't know how such a proposal would interact with that system. If K8P had a business clan or banking clan than we would very likely be able to get a deal with that clan for the benefit of K8P.

If the dwarfs took shares in K8P they would want it done their way as well. This could cause a great deal of friction with the other shareholders. I am unsure of how well the rest of the company would take to dwarfs getting shares.

It would be a great way to tie Stirland and K8P but right now it may be the headaches it may cause outweigh the benefit it could bring.
 
[X] [SPIDER] The We can be allowed to scutter off into the Underway, never to be seen again.
[X] [UNDUMGI] Francesco Caravello, Tilean ex-merchant
[X] [ARMOUR] It should be worn by the first Ironbreaker of the reborn Karak Eight Peaks
[X] [ARMOUR] It should be returned to the Hold it was stolen from, to build strong ties among the Karaz Ankor.
 
Maybe later, but right now our shares are what allows us to control the EIC. Selling shares will reduce our ability to control it.
Such a process should be paired with investing our liquid funds into EIC increasing our share. Ideally, we would retain the control package and Belegars's share would come at the expense of relative shrinking of all the other shareholder's stakes.
It may be a difficult sell. I don't know how the dwarfs view investment but it could be only certain clans deal with business in such a fashion. The dwarfs seem to favor the idea of certain clans deal with certain things and I don't know how such a proposal would interact with that system. If K8P had a business clan or banking clan than we would very likely be able to get a deal with that clan for the benefit of K8P.

If the dwarfs took shares in K8P they would want it done their way as well. This could cause a great deal of friction with the other shareholders. I am unsure of how well the rest of the company would take to dwarfs getting shares.

It would be a great way to tie Stirland and K8P but right now it may be the headaches it may cause outweigh the benefit it could bring.
Good point. If that is to be done at all, we need more info on how dwarves do business. Maybe we should privately talk with the steward? There was a push to get to know all our fellow councilors anyway.
 
I mean next turn I'd like to finally spend that free social action on either Wolf or Belegar. See if we can get him to expand our remit a little to include scouting/information gathering.
 
I mean next turn I'd like to finally spend that free social action on either Wolf or Belegar. See if we can get him to expand our remit a little to include scouting/information gathering.
I think I'd rather go for Wolf, although I can see the appeal of getting an official 'go ahead' for our information gathering, which we would likely do anyway.
 
I mean next turn I'd like to finally spend that free social action on either Wolf or Belegar. See if we can get him to expand our remit a little to include scouting/information gathering.

I think the main opposition here is that an expansion of our remit means potential Action point starvation. I think the thread would be very reluctant to commit at least one turn to scouting every turn, especially considering the following priorities:

1. Getting a shrine of Ranald up
2. Researching the Wisdom Asp juice
3. Commerce the long process of building our Penthouse, so our money doesn't just sit there, but actually go to investing in magical infarstructure, and before those funds, which the thread is itching to spend goes to other less essential things because it sounds amusing, as has happened this turn.
4. Learning new spells
5. Doing our next assignment as a Court Wizard

Furthermore, the Anton vs Wolf vote was very close the last time round, so I suspect the Wolf vote would show up very strongly this round - there's a huge constituency thinks things we are neglecting our Wolf. So yes, it's an uphill struggle to convince the thread to have Belegar officially expand our remit. You'd have to propose axing one of these several popular options out of the contention, and give a very good reason why approaching King Belegar ought to take priority over one of those other very popular and in some cases, time-sensitive actions.

Honestly, I'm hoping for a penthouse building option where Mathilde could simply create a blue-print, have the Dwarves start building the structure/skeleton of her penthouse in an action, and gradually over a series of turns, set up room after room as she finds time to fill in the skeleton. I do feel we need to cordon off/earmark the funds to penthouse construction as soon as possible at least - for one, it allows the thread to agree ahead of time, rather than rehash things every turn as to how ambitious or penthouse should be each time we go for an expansion, which would be very, very tiring and crumbersome. For another, I think it divests Mathilde of directly held, liquid currency as soon as possible if indeed Mathilde should not be holding on to too much liquid wealth at once. I do foresee if we don't do this, the Penthouse/tower would never be complete since it's hard to get the thread to keep agreeing to stick to a multi-turn penthouse/tower plan given how big the thread is, and action point starvation would make progress really hard.

@BoneyM : could there be a way for Mathilde to plan out/blueprint her Karag Nar penthouse/tower ahead of time, lock a building fund into it, to be slowly released as Mathilde finds the free time to execute the plan, room by room? Or for example, to get the skeleton of her penthouse built by the Dwarves over a few turns without her direct involvement beyond the initial commission, then spend turns to slowly flesh it out with facilities, security measures and dedicated rooms as budget/time permits?
 
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I think the best way to learn a new language is to work with a familiar subject matter, that you are also passionate about. Seems like a good idea to me, with how many mercs there are around, with each their own tongue.
You don't need an extensive collection worth 700 for that. A few books would do, and paying for a teacher is probably an easier way than just opening up a book in a foreign language and hoping you understand because you know the genre.
 
You don't need an extensive collection worth 700 for that. A few books would do, and paying for a teacher is probably an easier way than just opening up a book in a foreign language and hoping you understand because you know the genre.

If you follow the thread, you know a sizeable number of these voters believe Mathilde should liquidate her earnings in Karag Nar by any means as fast as possible, even if it means splurging it on Romance books. You'd have to address these people too, since their position is that there aren't any options available right now that this 700 GC can be sunk into, we have enough money for the options we eventually do need to pay for (Penthouse) and there is no guarantee that such options would appear in the future. Right now, it seems a majority of the thread buys this line of argument, so you need to run the numbers and see whether they are actually right. Because most new voter right now for this 700GC expenditure buys this argument on one level or another it seems.
 
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