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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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Omegahugger said:
The odds that they made a rule against marrying a male elf are almost none! And if anyone tries to argue, they have a dragon.

Deathfang is the best wingman.
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The Empire is really not very progressive. Really, really not progressive. Probably in an everything not explicitly allowed is forbidden style.We can't assume the common law concept with the opposite presumption.
 
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BoneyM said:
WHY DO I EVEN BOTHER ROLLING DICE FOR ANTON

I SHOULD JUST GIVE HIM WHATEVER HE WANTS RIGHT FROM THE GET GO AND SAVE THE DICE ROLLER SOME BANDWIDTH
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I'm glad that we got Anton to seek out true love.
Oh boy and with the action we get to see it sooner. This will be good.
Anton continues to make the world a happier place. Through the power of optimism and niceness.
 
Quest said:
So my vision for the future:

  • Turn the EIC into a Cult of Ranald the Protector (doctrinally made explicitly different from Ranald the Revolutionary) who is genuinely focused on the long-term good of the empire in the same way culturally as the grey college.
  • Add a spy network and use it to inform us of various troubles plaguing the empire.
  • Flip to protector, disguise as an alter ego, travel and beat up whatever monsters/bandits/troubles exist.
  • Watch as the empire and it's people are made to believe we genuinely did it for thier own sake.
  • Create new aspect of Ranald.
  • Become Favored Soul.
  • Profit.
And most, if not all of these actions will fall into our mandatory EIC action.
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Put in an order for great swords and witch hunter hats
use spell matrix to put shadowsteed spells into binders full of women.
Enchant a bunch of rings with one-off shadow spells
Switch to deceiver
Convince people Matilda is everywhere
 
veekie said:
Urgent(do this in the next 2 turns if possible):
[ ] You have acquired the possession of the Temple where Ranald mugged Mork. Set up a shrine and spread knowledge of it throughout Karag Nar.

We want this set up before the big influx of migrants arrive so they get with the local program rather than bringing their own.

[ ] Settlers, traders, and prospective wives will begin arriving soon. Start building an information network amongst them.

We want this set up right after the big influx of migrants arrive. The EIC branch office will help here, we can reach them through the EIC informants, and they'd have regular reasons to meet those traders AND its easy to transfer renumeration by giving them discounts.


Demi-Urgent(do this sooner than later, but specific time is flexible):
[ ] Kvinn-Wyr is full of trolls. Investigate this for yourself.
[ ] Travel underneath Kvinn-Wyr and investigate Karag Mhonar.
[ ] Some of the richest parts of the historical Karak were under the Citadel. See who currently resides there.
[ ] Scouts found mauled Skaven corpses under Karagril. See what's going on.
[ ] Greenskins currently occupy Karagril. Find out what tribe they are and who rules them.
[ ] Investigate underneath Karag Lhune: the Lhune Deeps and the Grand Abyss.
[ ] Send to the Grey College for the appropriate scrolls to learn a specific spell: specify which.
[ ] Investigate the constantly-dripping blood of the Wisdom's Asp. Current accumulation: 12 gallons.

Basically all things we want to do sooner than later.

Conditionally Urgent:
[ ] Investigate how Pall of Darkness interacts with your sharpened magical senses.

We really want to do this one before we do any serious deep recon. Its important to know before we're running for our lives.
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Thanks for the reply!

Urgent Tasks

[ ] You have acquired the possession of the Temple where Ranald mugged Mork. Set up a shrine and spread knowledge of it throughout Karag Nar.

I think the first urgent task, the building of a Ranaldite Shrine is probably easy to build a winnable plan for, because it likely unlocks other piety options and other ways to honor aspects of Ranald that are less controversial, such as Gambler and Protector, of which there seems to be much support within the thread. Plus, we do have a soft time-limit to build the shrine, so it's probably both in character and more sensible to get it done with now before other urgent priority actions start to appear.

[ ] Settlers, traders, and prospective wives will begin arriving soon. Start building an information network amongst them.

I think that setting up that Information Network is a harder sell for the thread though - there seems to be a significant portion of the thread that think this is not a high priority move since it's outside the job scope of our remit as Court Wizard. The counter would IMO would be that it's one of our jobs as a Grey Wizard to set up internal eyes and ears over Imperial subjects residing in Karak Eight Peaks, which would help further justify our presence in Karak Eight Peaks to the Grey College, but I anticipate that a significant debate would be waged over the urgency of the Information network. That being said, it seems that from your analysis, the information network can likely wait for the third turn, unless the migrant influx hits Karak eight Peaks as early as this first turn.

Conditionally Urgent

[ ] Investigate how Pall of Darkness interacts with your sharpened magical senses.

Given how many Demi-urgent tasks entail deep recon, it seems to me that this is something that ought to be taken as soon as action points permit.

I'd also imagine that this:

[ ] Send to the Grey College for the appropriate scrolls to learn a specific spell: specify which.

might also fall under conditionally urgent, since invisibility might come in handy.

Demi-Urgent(do this sooner than later, but specific time is flexible):


[ ] Kvinn-Wyr is full of trolls. Investigate this for yourself.
[ ] Travel underneath Kvinn-Wyr and investigate Karag Mhonar.
[ ] Some of the richest parts of the historical Karak were under the Citadel. See who currently resides there.
[ ] Scouts found mauled Skaven corpses under Karagril. See what's going on.
[ ] Greenskins currently occupy Karagril. Find out what tribe they are and who rules them.
[ ] Investigate underneath Karag Lhune: the Lhune Deeps and the Grand Abyss.

These six actions are deep recon actions, which means that Pall of Darkness investigation are almost a must. That being said, I can see that at most, we can only devote a single action to a deep recon mission every turn. Since investigating the underground of the Citadel has won this turn, the question is, what should we prioritize next turn?

I do think if we allow Johann to focus on the Skaven once he returns from Altdorf, investigating the Skaven presence under Karagil may well be a move that we should take together with a turn where Johann focuses on the Skaven. Infact, we might want to bring Johann along in our investigations of under-Karagril.

Other scouting actions, I believe depend on which peak the Council proposes should be targeted next for liberation. A targetted peak probably goes to the top of the demi-urgent priority queue, but otherwise, I can see a significant debate each turn on which Demi-urgent scouting action to to choose.

Personally: we should look to focus to secure the peaks already conquered as far as possible. Scouting the Lhune Deeps and Grand Abyss feels like the wiser and more urgent moves for me since Under Lhune and Under Citadel are potential vectors for assualt from hostile forces and schemes, and in some ways, a soft underbelly of the liberated Karags.

As for the Wisdom Asp snake juice, I think that it's best to devote research action to it this turn, as a test-run of our current investments into our tower. Hopefully, it would shed more light on what kind of expansions to the tower we need to do to improve our research capabilities if any.
 
Alratan said:
The Empire is really not very progressive. Really, really not very progressive. Everything not explicitly allowed is forbidden style.
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On the one hand, you have a valid point. On the other hand: dragon. :mob: 🐲

Omegahugger said:
The odds that they made a rule against marrying a male elf are almost none! And if anyone tries to argue, they have a dragon.

Deathfang is the best wingman.
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More seriously, I don't think there's a rule against it in the Empire, much like there isn't a rule against marrying the number six where I live. People will mostly roll their eyes at you and think the claim is obviously nonsensical.

chocolote12 said:
That sounds more like the Imperium you're thinking of, to be honest. Mathilde got a knighthood under the Air Bud rule, you know.
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IIRC the Air Bud rule was for the hypothetical case where Mathilde would seek to become an Elector. Mathilde's Knighthood, given by an Elector, is very much supported by the Imperial Articles of Magic: All Magisters may expect to receive accommodation, benefits, respect, and fair treatment, as would befit any noble of Sigmar's Holy Empire, while in the employ of the Electors of Sigmar's Holy Empire.
 
Omegahugger said:
Do you have a source for that? Because I would really like to see the lawbook that has specific provision for breathing, running and for what foods you can eat.
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Can I introduce you to the history of sumptuary laws. Banning fabrics that a men or woman can wear, regulating which social class is allowed to eat what kinds of food, and indeed , banning all kinds of activities.
 
Alratan said:
Can I introduce you to the history of sumptuary laws. Banning fabrics that a men or woman can wear, regulating which social class is allowed to eat what kinds of food, and indeed , banning all kinds of activities.
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Which is a far cry from "everything not explicitely permitted is forbidden". And more importantly, not a source.
 
How is Mathilde going to be shaped by this? She's been reading cheesy romance novels since she was an apprentice, her first assignment was to a spooky castle just like in her books, complete with secret passages and stuff, her friend comes to her for romantic advice after many years and she tells him to marry for true love, and then he just goes out and does it?

I mean, she may or may not have been the leading cause of the success, depending on how the roll was fluffed, but the results are likely to speak for themselves anyhow.
 
Alratan said:
Can I introduce you to the history of sumptuary laws. Banning fabrics that a men or woman can wear, regulating which social class is allowed to eat what kinds of food, and indeed , banning all kinds of activities.
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Not that I think the Empire is as permissive as some of the more deranged shippers seem to believe, but the level of draconian control differs a lot by social class and law by law basis, depending on who was in power and what was the fad of the day.

Like, IIRC the predecessors of IRL sumptuary laws arose in a reaction to the increasing wealth of traders breaking the social system, because a successful trader could be more finely dressed than their social superiors despite being one of the least loved prominent ancient profession worldwide, and thats problematic.

Different catalysts, different results.
I wouldn't be surprised if SURGEONS got repeatedly banned and loopholed back in in Stirland for instance.
 
Alratan said:
I am vaguely hopeful that the answer is that him and Roswita have fallen in love, as the future drama would be hilarious. Particularly the wedding.
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Certified Shippable.
The friction their polar-opposite views on magic would cause is somewhat concerning. "Your soul is in danger if you keep associating with your friend!" is not generally the sort of thing a relationship can survive.
If anything it would strike me as needing to be weighted towards Roswita being infatuated with him, for her to change her opinions.
... I wonder if he could have actually impressed her by righteously storming out on her first day.
 
We're getting away with "one main + one gold wizard action" on our main duties this time, but that's partially because we already recruited the Amber wizards out to help in the epilogue. In the future, I expect the comfortable medium is going to be "2 main actions + 1 gold wizard actions", or maybe "1 main + 2 gold wizards" if they're especially suited to the task at hand.
 
veekie said:
Not that I think the Empire is as permissive as some of the more deranged shippers seem to believe, but the level of draconian control differs a lot by social class and law by law basis, depending on who was in power and what was the fad of the day.

Like, IIRC the predecessors of IRL sumptuary laws arose in a reaction to the increasing wealth of traders breaking the social system, because a successful trader could be more finely dressed than their social superiors despite being one of the least loved prominent ancient profession worldwide, and thats problematic.

Different catalysts, different results.
I wouldn't be surprised if SURGEONS got repeatedly banned and loopholed back in in Stirland for instance.
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I would very much prefer if you didn't call anyone a "deranged" shipper. Particularly as I don't care about shipping so much as the existence of LGBT people, as I am one myself.

I would appreciate if you didn't make assumptions.
 
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