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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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Alliterate said:
Well, some Skaven Warlock-Engineer invented the lightbulb.

Mathilde pulled an Edison, published, and decided it was worthless.
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As far as I know the Empire doesn't have the scientific understanding of electricity to make a technology like that at all meaningful. Give it two or three hundred years (assuming lack of End Times) and people will be talking about Mathilde as a visionary and genius, ahead of her time!

...

Granted, they'll probably be saying that about her for everything else she's done and 'co-inventor of the electric light' will be an historical footnote, but...
 
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Alliterate said:
Well, some Skaven Warlock-Engineer invented the lightbulb.

Mathilde pulled an Edison, published, and decided it was worthless.
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Hey now, we don't need to insult that Warlock-Engineer...no self respecting skaven would invent something as benign as a lightbulb... they invented an Evil Lightbulb, and deserve to be recognized as such. Mathilde and adela just figured out a non evil copy :V
 
"No, I can give no credence to the notion that the co-creator of the Weber-Burgstaller Lightning Bulb design is the same person as Loremaster Mathilde, Returner of Vlag. Records from that time are spotty at best! And don't you dare bring up tales of 'Waystone Weber, Elf-friend'!"
"Still, what about those Eastern Stirland legends which say-"
"Get out of my office!"
 
soulcake said:
Dwarf Necromancers probably have the easiest time raising the dead compared to anyone else practically speaking, the difficulty is actually getting your Ancestor to agree that this task is actually difficult enough that you can't do it yourself.
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Surely it would be the other way around. Every ancestor rightfully believing today's Dawi are a shoddy lot, and need the help. The problem would be getting them to go away again.

Vogan said:
Eh, I don't like this part. It's makes runes depends on Some Guy/Gal from the Other Side, and this guy/gal also ex-dwarf.

Situation where grooves and stripes in stone (optionally filled some special material) just Do Things because this is how world works I likes much better.
Maybe combination of lines and ways actually can do something. Also can explain why some crystals, stones and metals more magic than others — maybe on microscopic level their structure replays some (probably unknown) runes (with proportionally reduced effects).

A thought aside: Has anyone tried planting cultures in the shape of some simple rune, say fertility? Soil, of course, is a less reliable material, but if it only has to last a year...
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If it was just that Shapes Do Things (which they do, because Mathilde carved her staff with marks of Ranald and Ulgu etc to increase its attunement) then everyone would have copied Dwarf runework by now. That they haven't means that there is something else going on.
 
The jades are the ones with the most developed tradition of tapping waystones for power and would likely at least be consulted in the design of any new taps. So they could be literal power plants.
 
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We did speculate during the Ghyran Nut action that it might have been an alternative to a power stone! A quite literal power plant.
 
So, I like the idea that Gazul Priests used to be able to do 'necromancy', but instead of Shysh-tongs-on-Dhar it was related to things like the Sally Port of Gazul, and that the reason it 'isn't a thing' now is that there was a slap-fight ages ago over which ancient wonders to prioritise the power supply for (back when there was power for some but not all of the works of the Ancestor Gods, and when the role of the Network and the Rune of Azamar were more widely known), and the Gazulites lost it. So now they can do only the things that work based on their own power / the side effects of the Karak Runes / which won't speed up how fast the Underearth is burning through its battery backup power.

And then part of the reason why 'Karak Dum remembers, even when others might prefer if we did not' is because at some point there was a deliberate policy of restricting knowledge, so that only the High King and their heir would know about the power supply issues. So it had to not be known to be a thing that Gazulite priests could do if only the High King directed power to reactivate the Sally Port of Gazul, the knowledge had to be destroyed or hidden.
 
Boney said:
No really, that was touched on in the update when she met with the local Halfling leader. Gradually learning through Wolf might be possible post-Polyglot, though.
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Hey Boney, if this isn't something you decided against, has Wolf spent enough time with Halflings for Mathilde to begin learning Mootish?
 
Mootish is such a specific language spoken by people who usually also know Reikspiel that I could very easily see Mathilde not needing to use it for... a very long period of time.

Like. I really am not sure how it'd come up in a context where Mathilde needs to speak it. Maybe one day she'll run into a bizarrely wide-ranging halfling spy network that only speaks Mootish and does all their code in food recipes?
 
Alliterate said:
"No, I can give no credence to the notion that the co-creator of the Weber-Burgstaller Lightning Bulb design is the same person as Loremaster Mathilde, Returner of Vlag. Records from that time are spotty at best! And don't you dare bring up tales of 'Waystone Weber, Elf-friend'!"
"Still, what about those Eastern Stirland legends which say-"
"Get out of my office!"
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"I have a very important meeting with Mathilde Weber, head librarian of KAU in 5 minutes."
 
Parabola said:
Mootish is such a specific language spoken by people who usually also know Reikspiel that I could very easily see Mathilde not needing to use it for... a very long period of time.

Like. I really am not sure how it'd come up in a context where Mathilde needs to speak it. Maybe one day she'll run into a bizarrely wide-ranging halfling spy network that only speaks Mootish and does all their code in food recipes?
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I mean, to be fair, there is a wide-ranging network of Halflings that is at least spy-adjacent.

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I understand that the WHFB corpus is really quite large at this point, and that differences in editions can make keeping on top of the lore a tricky prospect. But how do you make so many contradictions and frankly basic errors within the same book?

And it's a real shame, because there's a lot of cool and interesting stuff in there, and yet it's just overshadowed by the glaring errors.

Andres said:
There literally isn't any. There's no credited proofreader or editor.
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...I guess that'd do it. This is a book they're selling to people, right? Not some free supplement they've just posted on a blog somewhere?
 
The real editor was the community we made along the way.*
*actual editing not guaranteed
:V

To explain, C7 has an error submission form. They had released the book a while back, and the version Andres was reacting to was the edited version after community feedback. As you can probably guess, that didn't go as well as it should have.
 
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