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In 2e, a torch is five copper pennies, whereas the cheapest oil lamp is five silver shillings, or sixty copper pennies (plus another five for enough oil for four hours of flame). An actual storm lantern with glass and full metal construction to protect the wick from wind costs twelve gold crowns.
 
That makes some sense today because who in their right mind needs a torch or a lantern if they aren't doing something semi special. A flashlight will do the work fine. So they both are speciality items now. They wouldn't be in this situation.
Sure, but it's still funny to point out how we casually live in a world where the bit of burny wood is in-fact equally as precious as the intricate construction of metal and glass.
 
also I didn't get into it before because i thought it would be too petty but HOW THE FUCK IS A TORCH THE SAME COST AS A LANTERN, IN WHAT WORLD IS AN ASSEMBLAGE OF METAL AND CLEAR GLASS AND CAREFULLY-MADE OIL RESERVOIRS THE SAME PRICE AS A BIT OF WOOD WITH SOMETHING BURNY ON THE END
Look, they're both tools that give off light, they're basically the same thing.
Interestingly, by this measure a White Order Magister should also cost the same.
 
Wait. If gromril was discovered in 657 IC how the Runefangs, comissioned around 0 IC could be made of it?
Now that you've brought it up, I'm not sure there's anything that canonically says the Runefangs are gromril. And GW do have a paint called "Runefang Steel". Although that only came out in 2013 or so.
 
Look, they're both tools that give off light, they're basically the same thing.
Interestingly, by this measure a White Order Magister should also cost the same.
By this mesure Nuclear Bombs should also cost the same.
After all that is just a tool that gives light, basically same thing no?
 
Now that you've brought it up, I'm not sure there's anything that canonically says the Runefangs are gromril. And GW do have a paint called "Runefang Steel". Although that only came out in 2013 or so.
Old source, but the 4th edition Empire army book says they are.

(Page 17 has a description of the forging of the Runefangs- the only one ever printed that I'm aware of)
 
They did it, didn't they? Those fuckers broke up the Divine Polycule.
Checking my copy, you're good, page 141 says Morgrim is the son of Grimnir and Valaya.

Doesn't say that Grimnir was also her husband, though the core 4e RP book does.

(I feel the need to emphasize, 4e RP is the first source since 1e RP to say anything about Grimnir having children with or being married to Valaya- they can't be the one breaking it up when they're the only ones supporting it)
 
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The only real way to make the new Gromril lore make any sense is to say that it was a *re*-discovery of something from the Golden Age that was thought lost.
Or -hear me out- The current Runefangs are fakes that dwarves gave to Empire when Empire lost all of their Runefangs. Yes all of them.

It is not like humans are obsevant enough to notice or anything. Hell... I swear one these days humans are going to loose the Mallus and won't notice Sigmar replacing it with 8 fakes.
 
The only real way to make the new Gromril lore make any sense is to say that it was a *re*-discovery of something from the Golden Age that was thought lost.
Still doesn't make sense, but at least doesn't contradict as badly other pages of the book saying that Smednir was the one that taught Dwarfs how to smith it, that the Anvils of Doom are made from it, and that Armor Runes can only be placed on suits of Gromril.
 
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