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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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[x] Resolve to read the Liber Mortis.

I'll look at the plans and vote later.

BoneyM said:
Colleges yes, Dwarves no. Approved demonology books help in attempts to understand and prepare to combat them, but are very deliberately unhelpful for summoning or communication.
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Would Volans' original accounts for his senses be helpful to us? Would the college have any studies on how the different winds act around different living beings?
BoneyM said:
With College lessons, you can reliably learn one spell or just stick around and see who's teaching what and have a chance for multiple. But the fewer spells you don't know, the less likely you are to come home with a bunch of them.
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This sounds like the perfect action to use Ranald the Gambler on.
 
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BoneyM said:
Just added in this one I forgot:
[ ] Write a paper on Mathilde's Multidimensional Aethyric Projection.
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Noted!

[X] Resolve to read the Liber Mortis.

[X] Plan Friendly Neighborhood Spidermancer
- [X] Coin Face: Gambler
- [X] Current Task: Have Maximilian investigate the properties of the spiders' venom.
- [X] Have Johann return to Altdorf and 'graduate'.
- [X] Establish an outpost of the EIC in Karak Eight Peaks.
- [X] Be on hand for Esbern and Seija's attempts to communicate with the spiders.
- [X] Study both living and dead spiders with your Magesight.
- [X] Purchase furnishings so you can stop sleeping on a bedroll and can unpack your things: -20gc.
- [X] You have acquired the possession of the Temple where Ranald mugged Mork. Set up a shrine and spread knowledge of it throughout Karag Nar.
- [X] Write a paper on Mathilde's Multidimensional Aethyric Projection.
- [X] Ranald's Blessing (+20)
- [X] Spend time in Stirland helping Anton with his love life.
- [X] Ranald's Blessing (+20)

Put Ranald's Blessing where it's needed most. Unpacking things would give us the basic lab this turn, rather than the multi-action project of an expanded lab.
 
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EVA-Saiyajin said:
Hmm, @BoneyM sorry to bother you, but given how Windreader helped us in deciphering magical phenomena and putting it into words, would Windsage probably do the same for putting the Waaagh stuff to paper, or is that a no go for things like the Waaagh because that was based on observations, and we didn't observe them with our "improved" magesight?
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If you try to write that paper and succeed, your deeper understanding with Windsage is likely to be cited as the reason why.

EVA-Saiyajin said:
In addition, can the Gambler bonus be applied to reading the Liber Mortis?
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There are no success/failure rolls for the Liber Mortis.
 
BoneyM said:
Just added in this one I forgot:
[ ] Write a paper on Mathilde's Multidimensional Aethyric Projection.
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That's just cruel at this point.

Humbaba said:
I would like argue for
[ ] Establish an outpost of the EIC in Karak Eight Peaks.

I believe this is the most time sensitive option. The other options are important, particurly installing priorities, making the factory safe and creating our network but Kharak 8 peaks is about to be experiencing a goldrush as companies come to set up.

Turns are 6 months long. If we getting the EIC established in Kharak 8 peaks now we have a substantial advantage, whereas if we try to set up in another 6 months we may actually have a disadvantage as other companies have come to fill the void.

Once we're set up, this can have major advantages for information gathering (which the grey college really wants), and we can then focus on the other options.

I feel safe in making this choice, because when it comes down to it I trust Wilhelmina & Anton to keep things on the up and up for at least another turn. I trust her in general based on her track record, and in specific because she has just had Mathilde's status and obligations as a grey wizard shoved in her face again.
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I...can see where you are coming from.
Yeah, I think it has merit - corporate values are crucial, but taking advantage of the moment is one-time (or so) opportunity.
Yeah, changing the plan.

BoneyM said:
Spending a favour to do so means getting an instructor instead of just a scroll, so yes.
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Okay, this means it's better to spend a favour and learn Invisibility from an instructor, to ensure we learn it more reliably.

[X] Resolve to read the Liber Mortis.
[X] Plan Firm Foundations v3
-[X][COIN] Gambler
-[X][MAX] Current Task: Have him investigate the properties of the spiders' webs.
-[X][JOHANN] Have Johann return to Altdorf and 'graduate'.
-[X][EIC] Establish an outpost of the EIC in Karak Eight Peaks.

-[X] Study both living and dead spiders with your Magesight.
-[X][FREE] A library is basically an external brain. Add to yours.
--[X] Imperial books on: Esoteric/Extensive Greenskin, Esoteric/Extensive Skaven, Obscure Entymology: 600g
--[X] Dwarf books on: Antiquarian/Extensive Greenskin, Antiquarian/Extensive Skaven: 4 Favor, 400g
-[X][FREE] Purchase furnishings so you can stop sleeping on a bedroll and can unpack your things: -20gc.
-[X] The Undumgi are to select a leader from among themselves. Get involved in the process so you can investigate the candidate and influence their decision.
-[X] Scouts found mauled Skaven corpses under Karagril. See what's going on.
--[X] Coin: Gambler
-[X] Travel to the Grey College and attend lessons there. (1 Favour: Shroud of Invisibility)
-[X][FREE] Wolf is growing fast. Train him. (increases his intelligence, may deepen Familiar bond)
-[X][EXTRA] Spend time in Stirland helping Anton with his love life.
 
Yeah, Guile has a point in that sending him home is needlessly pointless and likely to be in fact detrimental. Plus, what's the point of using him as a minor rebuke if he's not a "journeyman"?
 
Quest said:
Would Volans' original accounts for his senses be helpful to us? Would the college have any studies on how the different winds act around different living beings?
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Volans' writings would be part of human books on High Magic. Each College has books on the theory of their Wind, which would cover how they react to living things.
 
[X] Plan: Anchor The Foundations
-[X][COIN] Gambler
-[X][MAX] Current Task: Have him investigate the properties of the spiders' webs.
-[X][JOHANN] Have Johann return to Altdorf and 'graduate'.
-[X][EIC] Instil corporate policy: long-term financial good of the Empire.
-[X] Study both living and dead spiders with your Magesight.
-[X] A library is basically an external brain. Add to yours. (Skaven, Greesnkin Dwarf Lore, Extensive, Esoteric, -500 GC, -4 DF)
-[X] Purchase furnishings so you can stop sleeping on a bedroll and can unpack your things: -20gc.
-[X] The Undumgi are to select a leader from among themselves. Get involved in the process so you can investigate the candidate and influence their decision.
-[X] Set up quarters and a basic laboratory for the Journeymanlings and any other visiting Wizards: -100gc.
-[X] Investigate the constantly-dripping blood of the Wisdom's Asp. Current accumulation: 12 gallons.
--[X] Ranald's Blessing (+20 x2)

[X] Resolve to seal away the Liber Mortis.
[X] Resolve to rid yourself of the Liber Mortis.
 
ctulhuslp said:
That's just cruel at this point.



I...can see where you are coming from.
Yeah, I think it has merit - corporate values are crucial, but taking advantage of the moment is one-time (or so) opportunity.
Yeah, changing the plan.


Okay, this means it's better to spend a favour and learn Invisibility from an instructor, to ensure we learn it more reliably.

[X] Resolve to read the Liber Mortis.
[X] Plan Firm Foundations v3
-[X][COIN] Gambler
-[X][MAX] Current Task: Have him investigate the properties of the spiders' webs.
-[X][JOHANN] Have Johann return to Altdorf and 'graduate'.
-[X][EIC] Establish an outpost of the EIC in Karak Eight Peaks.

-[X] Study both living and dead spiders with your Magesight.
-[X][FREE] A library is basically an external brain. Add to yours.
--[X] Imperial books on: Esoteric/Extensive Greenskin, Esoteric/Extensive Skaven, Obscure Entymology: 600g
--[X] Dwarf books on: Antiquarian/Extensive Greenskin, Antiquarian/Extensive Skaven: 4 Favor, 400g
-[X][FREE] Purchase furnishings so you can stop sleeping on a bedroll and can unpack your things: -20gc.
-[X] The Undumgi are to select a leader from among themselves. Get involved in the process so you can investigate the candidate and influence their decision.
-[X] Scouts found mauled Skaven corpses under Karagril. See what's going on.
--[X] Coin: Gambler
-[X] Travel to the Grey College and attend lessons there. (1 Favour: Shroud of Invisibility)
-[X][FREE] Wolf is growing fast. Train him. (increases his intelligence, may deepen Familiar bond)
-[X][EXTRA] Spend time in Stirland helping Anton with his love life.
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Any chance I could convince you to put the +40 to Woflo instead of the scouting action, I feel like were probably pretty safe when it comes to that and grabbing the familiar bond powers early could make a very big compounding difference. Especially if it's the lucky charms power which given the double blessing of Ranald would fit.
 
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ctulhuslp said:
-[X] Scouts found mauled Skaven corpses under Karagril. See what's going on.
--[X] Coin: Gambler
-[X] Travel to the Grey College and attend lessons there. (1 Favour: Shroud of Invisibility)
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Would you consider using our blessing on the lessons? With luck, we might be able to pick up multiple spells.
BoneyM said:
Volans' writings would be part of human books on High Magic. Each College has books on the theory of their Wind, which would cover how they react to living things.
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So buy books on High Magic and each of the Winds.

EDIT: Just saw the Wolf action. That might be just as good.
 
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[X] Resolve to read the Liber Mortis.

[X] Plan Friendly Neighborhood Spidermancer
- [X] Coin Face: Gambler
- [X] Current Task: Have Maximilian investigate the properties of the spiders' venom.
- [X] Have Johann return to Altdorf and 'graduate'.
- [X] Establish an outpost of the EIC in Karak Eight Peaks.
- [X] Be on hand for Esbern and Seija's attempts to communicate with the spiders.
- [X] Study both living and dead spiders with your Magesight.
- [X] Purchase furnishings so you can stop sleeping on a bedroll and can unpack your things: -20gc.
- [X] You have acquired the possession of the Temple where Ranald mugged Mork. Set up a shrine and spread knowledge of it throughout Karag Nar.
- [X] Write a paper on Mathilde's Multidimensional Aethyric Projection.
- [X] Spend time in Stirland helping Anton with his love life.
-- [X] Ranald's Blessing (+20)
 
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[X] Resolve to read the Liber Mortis.

None of the proposed plans really hit it for me, but I don't have the time to read the whole discussion or make my own plan, so I'll just vote for the important part.
 
EVA-Saiyajin said:
Yeah, Guile has a point in that sending him home is needlessly pointless and likely to be in fact detrimental. Plus, what's the point of using him as a minor rebuke if he's not a "journeyman"?
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Would now-Magister Johann even still be our subordinate? We voted to have him work for us, but that's under his fiction that he's a journeyman.
 
Alectai said:
X] Study both living and dead spiders with your Magesight.
-[X] A library is basically an external brain. Add to yours. (Skaven, Greesnkin Dwarf Lore, Extensive, Esoteric, -500 GC, -4 DF)
-[X] Purchase furnishings so you can stop sleeping on a bedroll and can unpack your things: -20gc.
-[X] The Undumgi are to select a leader from among themselves. Get involved in the process so you can investigate the candidate and influence their decision.
-[X] Set up quarters and a basic laboratory for the Journeymanlings and any other visiting Wizards: -100gc.
-[X] Investigate the constantly-dripping blood of the Wisdom's Asp. Current accumulation: 12 gallons.
--[X] Ranald's Blessing (+20 x2)
[X] Spend time in Stirland helping Anton with his love life.
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Is that 6 actions, or am I missing something?
That's already a risk, right?
 
[X] Resolve to read the Liber Mortis.

[X] Plan: Anchor The Foundations
-[X][COIN] Gambler
-[X][MAX] Current Task: Have him investigate the properties of the spiders' webs.
-[X][JOHANN] Have Johann return to Altdorf and 'graduate'.
-[X][EIC] Instil corporate policy: long-term financial good of the Empire.
-[X] Study both living and dead spiders with your Magesight.
-[X] A library is basically an external brain. Add to yours. (Skaven, Greesnkin Dwarf Lore, Extensive, Esoteric, -500 GC, -4 DF)
-[X] Purchase furnishings so you can stop sleeping on a bedroll and can unpack your things: -20gc.
-[X] The Undumgi are to select a leader from among themselves. Get involved in the process so you can investigate the candidate and influence their decision.
-[X] Set up quarters and a basic laboratory for the Journeymanlings and any other visiting Wizards: -100gc.
-[X] Investigate the constantly-dripping blood of the Wisdom's Asp. Current accumulation: 12 gallons.
--[X] Ranald's Blessing (+20 x2)
 
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Guile said:
Would now-Magister Johann even still be our subordinate? We vote to have him work for us, but that's under his fiction that he's a journeyman.
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Indeed.

Guys, really, what point is there to the "graduation" of Johann besides pettiness? Make him actually work for us if you want to be driven by such, but please don't risk alienating him AND taking away from what he can do for us for nothing.
 
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