So I really want to kill Druchii before any negotations with Asur
Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
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The number of 'negotiate with Ultuan' options here suggests that now might be a good time to initiate the Elfcation alongside The Protector face of the coin (also I just want to see Boney write that). Also seems like we should start looking towards the end of the Waystone project and what exactly that looks like. We're not manually building all the waystones we'd want ourselves but it would be prudent to set up a long term future for that once the Fellowship of the Waystone goes its separate ways (using one of the remaining Dwarf boons for long term resource commitment and/or the Imperial Great Deed to get support into law could go far here). This might be something better suited for next turn (or the turn after that), but I think we should at least be open to winding it down in the next 2-3 turns.
Edit: My arrogant pride also feels compelled to point out that Turn 50 (51?) is when Supreme Patriarch is up for grabs again
Edit: My arrogant pride also feels compelled to point out that Turn 50 (51?) is when Supreme Patriarch is up for grabs again
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I'd be up for that but only after we actually take a look at the kislevite network, currently we have no idea I'm what state it is or if it could accept a new waystone.
Could someone put together a list of possible (separate) ways Mathilde appears in the history books
Just a few I could think of off the top of my head
-with the help of a dwarven artillery leveled a castle full of foul magic (passing mention at best)
-karak eight peaks. Like, all of it. A chapter on the reclamation of K8P would be like, 80% Mathilde, and the inhabitation of it would still be like 10% Mathilde
-super weapon powered by the god of death
-expedition to Kor-Dum
-Karak Vlag
-provided the Runesmithing guild a method to replenish runes much faster
-waystone project
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- Eugene OR US
Picking the Dawi is clearly the best option.
Mopman43
Mountain-Hermit of Nitpeak
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- Vermont
I think we'd have to get absurdly lucky (or unlucky) to actually have the chance to run into anything bad enough that stopping it would proc the Protector enough to matter with negotiations that will presumably feature Saphery and not Nagarythe.
Bit of a wild idea, but what if we went with the Father side? The Shadow Warriors are devoted in some fashion to Lileath. She might be a Daughter.
it is also a exquisite chaser to the emperor we assassinated and bought a canal with. The projections of another Waste incursion exactly the place to put the first strike in a very long logistic war.
SaltyWaffles
I am dissapoint, son
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The Tzar isn't our main backer; our main backers are the Empire and Laurelorn. Which makes deploying the first waystone to Kislev a powerful statement. It is both a demonstration of the Empire and Laurelorn's belief that Kislev's recovery and strength are important and a statement of intent on using the fruits of this project to solve big problems all over rather than just for self-gain.
EDIT: I think negotiating with Ulthuan for information about nexuses can wait a little bit until we've studied some nexuses ourselves and have some deployed waystones as proof that the project is serious about both its intent and its ability.
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- Before the Ninth Gate
Not a complete plan (I'm missing at least an overwork action), but the basics I think most plans should have (also I need to update the format). I did stretch a little with the EIC action, but I think we should get this done.
[] Plan Travel Basics:
-[ ] [ ] [ ] Travel to Nagarythe at the invitation of Ambassador Daroir, and join their eternal war against Naggarothi invaders for three months.
--[ ] The Protector
-[ ] Waystone: Deploy in _____ {note: I haven't checked where is best to deploy, but we definitely want to deploy this ASAP}
-[ ] EIC: Found an auditors division, to make sure the ledgers are in order. {we should probably just get this done now so that nothing bad gets entrenched later}
-[ ] Hire educators to teach a language or group of languages to your scribes (specify which)
--[ ] Eltharin (Ulthuan's Tar-Eltharin and Laurelorn's Yen-Eltharin dialects)
-[ ] Write a paper - Aethyric Vitae (1/2)
We should definitely be doing the above this turn.
First, prepping to do the AV turn means finishing the book.
Second, we want to go on the journey, and we did promise to go, so let's actually go.
Third, deploy that waystone somewhere.
Fourth, let's teach Eltharin to our scribes so we can copy stuff from the big library.
Fifth, the EIC stuff should have been handled a while ago, but better late than never. Let's not accidently end up on the Bursar's Shitlist.
[] Plan Travel Basics:
-[ ] [ ] [ ] Travel to Nagarythe at the invitation of Ambassador Daroir, and join their eternal war against Naggarothi invaders for three months.
--[ ] The Protector
-[ ] Waystone: Deploy in _____ {note: I haven't checked where is best to deploy, but we definitely want to deploy this ASAP}
-[ ] EIC: Found an auditors division, to make sure the ledgers are in order. {we should probably just get this done now so that nothing bad gets entrenched later}
-[ ] Hire educators to teach a language or group of languages to your scribes (specify which)
--[ ] Eltharin (Ulthuan's Tar-Eltharin and Laurelorn's Yen-Eltharin dialects)
-[ ] Write a paper - Aethyric Vitae (1/2)
We should definitely be doing the above this turn.
First, prepping to do the AV turn means finishing the book.
Second, we want to go on the journey, and we did promise to go, so let's actually go.
Third, deploy that waystone somewhere.
Fourth, let's teach Eltharin to our scribes so we can copy stuff from the big library.
Fifth, the EIC stuff should have been handled a while ago, but better late than never. Let's not accidently end up on the Bursar's Shitlist.
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Could do it in the same turn.
Also, remember that we can defer part of elfcation's AP cost to next turn, to fit more things into this one.
Mathilde wants in on the party I see, lol.
Important. Part of the gigaflex, even - this spell covers a niche unmet in the grey corpus. I definitely wouldn't want to leave on the elfcation before passing this on.
I continue to want this. You find lots of things, following the numbers.
Seems inevitable. Not sure if this turn though?
Gigaflex!
Mopman43
Mountain-Hermit of Nitpeak
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Didn't we already make the Orbs?
That would be a second set that you're proposing.
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- New Brunswick, NJ
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@Boney, a couple of questions: if we were to find ourself in Lothern for some reason this turn by sheer happenstance, what sort of action would be involved to set up ongoing access to buy Asur books? Is that just "[ ] Seek the publishing contacts to start acquiring large amounts of books from a nearby realm"? And is it something that is time-sensitive, i.e. "can only be done in the same turn as going to Lothern", or can it be taken in a future turn?
SaltyWaffles
I am dissapoint, son
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Parabola
Divided Loyalties Librarian
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- The Destination of Fate
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Personally, deploying in Kislev makes the most sense, given the options presented to us.
And... I know there's a lot of enthusiasm for going on the Elfcation, but I feel like from a wider narrative perspective, this may be the worst possible time. Like... I don't know. It feels wrong.
And... I know there's a lot of enthusiasm for going on the Elfcation, but I feel like from a wider narrative perspective, this may be the worst possible time. Like... I don't know. It feels wrong.
Has anyone got the Giga-flex plus elfcation plans handy?
If we have spare actions I'd like to do the Seviriscope paper before we go as well, but I don't think we do.
Also:
It is almost physically painful that we won't be able to fit it in this turn.
Anyway if somehow we don't do Elfcation this turn, then I'd be up for finishing off the grey spellbook so we can go next turn. But I'd prefer this turn.
If we have spare actions I'd like to do the Seviriscope paper before we go as well, but I don't think we do.
Also:
WANT.
It is almost physically painful that we won't be able to fit it in this turn.
Anyway if somehow we don't do Elfcation this turn, then I'd be up for finishing off the grey spellbook so we can go next turn. But I'd prefer this turn.
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Abby Normal
High Clerk of the Ymaryn
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Oh dear, time for the elfcation knife fight...
First of all, a simple diffchecker showing the changes in the action choices and also Eike's char sheet:
As for the vote itself...i'll have to put my brain to figuring out what a turn plan would look like, but i feel strongly that going on vacation to fight dangerous elves very much should wait until after we have at least:
-Figured out what limitations there are on kislev waystones, in particular if the simple transmission can work with their lesser 'vortex'
-started at *least* one action to work on deploying into kislev, preferably two, one for tributaries and one for a waystone
-developed a cheaper and closer-to-mass producible waystone alternative
Because thats i think the minimum that we need to do to actually meet the spirit of our deal with boris, and fucking off to another continent and throwing ourselves into battle unnecessarily before doing so would be shitty of mathilde, imo
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As for the vote itself...i'll have to put my brain to figuring out what a turn plan would look like, but i feel strongly that going on vacation to fight dangerous elves very much should wait until after we have at least:
-Figured out what limitations there are on kislev waystones, in particular if the simple transmission can work with their lesser 'vortex'
-started at *least* one action to work on deploying into kislev, preferably two, one for tributaries and one for a waystone
-developed a cheaper and closer-to-mass producible waystone alternative
Because thats i think the minimum that we need to do to actually meet the spirit of our deal with boris, and fucking off to another continent and throwing ourselves into battle unnecessarily before doing so would be shitty of mathilde, imo
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Where is it, where is it...
Yes! The loot goblin inside of me is happy now.
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- Before the Ninth Gate
I'd honestly not introduce this with the gigaflex. It's a little dubious, so maybe better to have that separate. The gigaflex is the AV gigaflex, AFAICT.
Honestly, I forgot, but you are completely correct. I'll edit it.
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Tangentially, a request to planmakers: if your plan involves traveling to Nagarythe, please state explicitly how many actions your plan "borrows" from next turn, be that 0, 1, or 2, so that plans can be more easily compared.
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From a comedic standpoint though it makes perfect sense! Codify knightbringer, erect the first waystone, submit the AV book and the morbs, leave for 3 months without comment.
I disagree, but don't feel the need to press. I mean, yeah, the gigaflex is mainly morbs, but piling stuff on on top is the fun of it, right?
Regardless I don't want to go off on a dangerous adventure before passing knightbringer on.
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Psychological Warfare (2/3)
Scouting (2/3)
These two would be good to get if we are doing elfcation, but besides that I want the new enchant action.
Scouting (2/3)
These two would be good to get if we are doing elfcation, but besides that I want the new enchant action.
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- Spain
I would rather wait, Elfcation is an incredible opportunity to get access to a lot of unique assots if we can afford them, and we are pretty short on cash...
Besides that, I want to take a few self-improvement actions to round up Mathilde before going there...