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How about casting substance of shadow on the box and chucking it at the ground?
Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
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Casting spells on warpstone is the complete opposite of best practices.
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Yeah, i am sure that will absolutely not cause any problems in the long term. No sir.
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Today I learned that 40k has been canon in Fantasy since 7th edition, not 8th. Liber Chaotica, page 192:
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Yeah, either pay a huge amount of Gold to have Dwarves do something similar, in a far more secure place, or leave it in a shaft and pretend not to notice the big-ass rats that take them away.
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Don’t think of it as dying; just as leaving early
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I'm pretty sure the Dwarfs dump it in exhausted mines. It's basically radioactive, and being magically so is probably even worse for Dwarfs. They aren't going to keep the stuff somewhere better.
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And leave it for their enemies to just grab!?!?! 8 peaks, if I remember correctly, specifically has a dedicated vault to store it. Dwarves are more inert/resistant to magic not more affected. They know and hate the Skaven. They understand its value to the rats. Also where there is Gromril there is Warpstone, they know how to safely* handle it.
Edit: The skaven literally use for EVERYTHING. Their engineers use it as both ammunition and in their primer. Their monster breeders use it for the mutagenic effects. Sorcerors use it to fuel their spells. Hell, it's what they use for coinage. It is the basis of their ECONOMY. Why would the Dwaves leave out for them to just cart away?
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It is presumably possible to 'cook off' warpstone into Dhar that could then be disposed of via the Vortex but that would be a) very expensive b) very unsafe and c) nobody actually wants to do it.
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Liber Chaotica was originally released as a series of lorebooks from 2003 to 2004, so it's actually 6th edition.
deathofrats0808
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"Dump it in an abandoned mineshaft" isn't the same thing as leaving it out for the Skaven. I can't find any mention of a vault for warpstone by Boney, who's just said that "best practices" is to dump it in an abandoned mineshaft or to throw it into the sea. Evidence thus suggests that the Dwrafs do in fact put it into abandoned mineshafts. Remeber that for teh Dwarfs, such shafts aren't inherently outside their defences, so it's not like they're just leaving it without protection.
deathofrats0808
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I mean, Slaves to Darkness and The Lost and the Damned were published in 1988 and 1990, and have the rules for Chaos for both Fantasy and 40K, which included things like Chaos Champions being given weapons from 40K and using them in Fantasy.
The early editions of 40k even had mentions of the Slann, an ancient race with an unknown connection to the Old Ones. There's a pretty rad illustration of a Slann warrior with a flamethrower in the 3rd edition rulebook.
Also very illegal for a Wizard to do.
Chuck it into the Great Vortex.
deathofrats0808
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Presumably if the Waystones don't get rid of Warpstone, the Vortex won't either. Also, the Asur kill anyone who goes there, for the not unreasonable logic that people don't need to go there unless they want to mess with the ritual keeping the world safe.
Judging by Mallus' sea life, I believe Manaan uses that Warpstone to make his monsters grow.
Huh, I always took this passage:
to mean the warpstone drops off and started decaying, not just being there. Clean up must've been a bitch.
Though I guess that was a given with the trolls all over the place.
Also, Skaven are really doing their part in preserving the world. Each time a Grey Seer snorts powdered warpstone represents an irreplaceable service to keeping the world safe.
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In theory you could probably use Trolls for Warpstone disposal, if you ignored all the ways it will inevitably go wrong.
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That was one of the very common misconceptions in the thread that kept popping up, bit like asking when we write that letter to the imperial dwarfs.
A Waystone is a thing for moving mana from one part of the physical world to another part of the physical world.
The Great Vortex is a thing for moving mana from the physical world to an entirely different plane of reality. Indeed it is the thing that removes gaseous Dhar from the world.
The Asur are just as interested in getting rid of the stones of congealed evil as anyone else. I doubt they would be averse to taking possession of lead-lined boxes to empty into the Great Vortex.
They would if they aren't certain what that would do. For the asur the continuing function of the vortex is much more important then any experiments you could propose.
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For a moment I thought "Man, there's got to be some kind of Warpstone Nothing Grinder one could make. A spell or device that does absolutely nothing useful, but still converts warpstone into a form that can be absorbed by the waystones and transported to the Great Vortex."
And then I realized "Ah. that's just the Second Secret, isn't it?"
Actually… during the waystone project it has been shown the Eonir are not shy about handling Dhar. Indeed they had a bunch of students produce the stuff on mass to test whether a river could safely transport it.
Nothing stops any elf mage using warpstone to power some pointless and inefficient make-work spells in order to break it down into gaseous Dhar that the Waystones can handle.
Nothing stops any elf mage using warpstone to power some pointless and inefficient make-work spells in order to break it down into gaseous Dhar that the Waystones can handle.
This came up in discussion a while back, and Boney clarified that the warpstone wasn't destroyed by the Waystones. otoh it was partly cleaned up by trolls, so...