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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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Prime 2.0 said:
I could have sworn there were still a few sieges going on. The position existed to allow roswita to refocus on stirland Rather than as any kind of declaration that the pacification was complete as I recall.

One of our jobs had we taken it would have been to ensure the last of the vampires were taken care of. It's been awhile though so I might be misremembering.
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Gavin Prince said:
We still have the option in turn votes to go take part in the Pacification of East Stirland, so it's not completely done and dusted to the point Mathilde doesn't think she can meaningfully contribute.
It's just not really a priority.
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The last sieges of the vampire holdouts were settled during Edda's wedding social. Roswita only handed over Sylvania to the new Markgraf of Eastern Stirland once the war was over and the region transitions into civilian government. Otherwise it would still be under military law. The current pacification is still available but it'd be more counter insurgency rather than a siege.

The war is over, now comes the hard work of winning the peace against another Carstein comeback:

Boney said:
The next morning you go through your incoming correspondence and find reports from the EIC confirming what you heard during the Barazdeg celebrations: the long siege of the remaining holdouts has concluded with one Vampire killed and its remains under guard and the other currently being pursued through the countryside, and with extremely light casualties sustained by the Army of Stirland. Some are grumbling that this proves the sieges were unnecessary, but most agree that it's a result of the sieges serving their exact purpose. Exactly whose problem Eastern Stirland will be is still up in the air, but with it no longer an active warzone there's hope that some semblance of peace might settle upon Stirland.
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[X] [ITHILMAR] Trade Goods

This is not because I don't want books.

It's just that this is not the way I wanted to get them.

I want to make a deal with the Library of Mournings, not strong arm them like we did you Nurln.
 
Also, to make things absolutely clear, we did not strong arm the libraries of Nuln.
We bribed the Elector Count.
Elector Count strongarmed the libraries of Nuln.
Very important difference.

That said, how directly in control is the queen of the library?
Is she the head librarian, or just someone who can give the head librarian orders.
Because if the later, than i would call this strong arming the library, instead of gaining an ongoing arrangemend.
Which could potentially make future cooperation more difficult, even if only because the person in charge of the library day to day might be salty.
 
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Valmond said:
Also, to make things absolutely clear, we did not strong arm the libraries of Nuln.
We bribed the Elector Count.
Elector Count strongarmed to libraries of Nuln.
Very important difference.

That said, how directly in control is the queen of the library?
Is she the head librarian, or just someone who can give the head librarian orders.
Because if the later, than i would call this strong arming the library, instead of gaining an ongoing arrangemend.
Which could potentially make future cooperation more difficult, even if only because the person in charge of the library day to day might be salty.
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The former, it is one of her few actual direct powers.
 
MonkeyTypewriter said:
Honestly, the fact that people seem to be thinking about taking a loan before just... using the 400+ crowns we have in our estate treasury is pretty wild.
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When we went to Uzkulak (the evil slave trade city) we spent 2000 gold buying all non-slave shiny things they had. When we went to Barak Varr (the Dawi trade city) we spent 300 of our 556 gold buying some of the shiny things on offer, the remaining item being too expensive to buy. Lothern is quite possibly the greatest trade city in the world. It isn't evil and or slavery based. It has greater access to magical stuff and foreign exotic stuff than Barak Varr. I cannot imagine Mathilde having enough coin to get everything we would want to buy in such a place. 400 is a drop in the bucket.

GrimTheMad said:
(Also Mathilde already knows several beings with lifespans measured in millennia at least.)
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In approximate order of when Mathilde met them:
Ranald, Asarnil, Deathfang, Heidi, Kragg, Cython, Vicereine Cadaeth… literally ALL the elves she has met in Laurelorn, Niedzwenka and Eltharion. So far. And not including enemies like Vampires.
Plus any Dawi can potentially just keep going indefinitely.
And of course nothing stops other Wizards getting good enough to achieve perpetual longevity.
 
After a fair bit of consideration...

[X] [ITHILMAR] Books, primarily restricted books on magic with everything else secondary.

I am not happy with the B O O K tendency and not voting for EIC expansion with all that it entails feels pretty fucking bad. Nonetheless, extremely rare magic knowledge is extremely rare. Such is life.
 
I'm going to stick with the trade goods option, because I think we might be able to crack open the library by giving Laurelorn the prestige of erecting the first new waystone.
 
[X] [ITHILMAR] Books, primarily restricted books on magic with everything else secondary.
[X] [ITHILMAR] Ithilmar armor for Mathilde.
[X] [ITHILMAR] A copy of the Library of Mournings, including most restricted texts.

[X] Sarvoi
[X] Initiate
[X] Dooming and Quickening
[X] Entrance Examination
[X] Reading on Nehekhara
[X] Druchii Diplomats

Updating my vote to include the better phrasing for the Library of Mournings.
 
I'm looking forward to the library triggering one of of the dealers choice social turn slots and dealing with Verenan cultists or Cathayan scholars or some stranger option I don't know enough deep lore to even suggest.
 
Nerdasaurus Rex said:
I'm going to stick with the trade goods option, because I think we might be able to crack open the library by giving Laurelorn the prestige of erecting the first new waystone.
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That seems unlikely, part of the reason we can get the more restricted magic books is because we are giving them something of military use. The prestige of the first waystone is not of military use. I am skeptical that it is of any use but it's definitely not going to be killing there foes. Also they already have the right of first refusal on that.
 
If we do manage to get most of the Library of Morning's corpus one of the interesting consequences is that we will them have quite a bit of standing going up to say the Damsels or the Ice Court and proposing an exchange. Heck as arrogant as the Asur are I think even the White Tower might consider it at that point given the age and prestige of the Library of Morning and the access to Grey Lord texts with no other source.
 
DragonParadox said:
If we do manage to get most of the Library of Morning's corpus one of the interesting consequences is that we will them have quite a bit of standing going up to say the Damsels or the Ice Court and proposing an exchange. Heck as arrogant as the Asur are I think even the White Tower might consider it at that point given the age and prestige of the Library of Morning and the access to Grey Lord texts with no other source.
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We're not getting Grey Lord texts, those are not kept in the Library of Mournings.

Boney said:
There'd be a gap to represent the writings of the Grey Lords themselves. Without them it's hard to justify the Eonir having a whole +5 of separate insight to Ulthuan.
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Boney said:
Just the Library of Mournings. The Grey Lord stuff currently exists largely in private notebooks and stacks of notes in the Dreaming Wood.
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[X] [ITHILMAR] Trade Goods
[X] Dooming and Quickening
[X] Initiate
[X] Entrance Examination
[X] Witch Hunter
[X] Skull River Ambush

Personally, cIt would be nice to see more adventure and divided loyalties and less Library quest
 
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Y'know, I really wish that we had completed the sevirophone a while back, because investing into the rollout of that is the kind of public service that I would have wanted to support with Money: Yes levels of cash.
 
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