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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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MrHobbit said:
Centuries and millennia? Those weren't nexuses, but large portions of Sylvania's waystones were connected to Mordheim before it was destroyed. They then underwent centuries of degradation, before a good chunk of them were destroyed by vampires and necromancers under Mannfred and Konrad. Sure, those are waystones. But waystones are man-high rocks. These are mountains we're talking about.

We have an idea of how long it takes for the reactivation of waystones after periods of dormancy takes for it to be noticeable. That time period is decades. I don't see why the Dwarfs of the Golden Age would have built their waystones to be so vulnerable. If nothing else the fact that they survived the Time of Woes proves they didn't make them delicate.
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Oh right I was thinking of the Waystone Clog, but then than would have been much more slapdash than just turning it off... then again that is also a Karaz Ankor Waystone whereas the one in the quote is not. I think this might be worth asking the GM @Boney assuming one of the Karaz Ankor stones was blocked and the flow had nowhere to go how long does she expect would take for noticeable Dhar accumulation to happen? Days? Weeks? Or more?
 
Romv said:
You went for a slow burn I see. With a potential enemies-to-lovers plot to boot!
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The plot twist and cliffhanger for the next book is Mathilde discovering all her preferred romantic partners is actually female, under the beard.

Tobtorp said:
This screams for a trilogy, third band we get the mysterious newcomer to make it a love triangle.
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Why not two? The totally-not-a-Chaos-Gnomi, and a savage but honourable gnomi from across the underground sea
 
DragonParadox said:
Oh right I was thinking of the Waystone Clog, but then than would have been much more slapdash than just turning it off... then again that is also a Karaz Ankor Waystone whereas the one in the quote is not. I think this might be worth asking the GM Boney assuming one of the Karaz Ankor stones was blocked and the flow had nowhere to go how long does she expect would take for noticeable Dhar accumulation to happen? Days? Weeks? Or more?
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The interim waystones don't absorb magic on their own too, so it would be different for multiple reasons. I've seen a different quote before talking about what would happen if Mathilde had just left it clogged and how it would affect the expedition. The initial question seemed vague about whether the waystone would be unclogged eventually or not, but I can't find it. This comment says a few days would be fine. While this one says a month is where Mathilde would start worrying. Though they were made before Mathilde began studying the Waystone Network at all.
 
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MrHobbit said:
The interim waystones don't absorb magic on their own too, so it would be different for multiple reasons. I've seen a different quote before talking about what would happen if Mathilde had just left it clogged, but someone would need to find that. The the initial question seemed vague about whether the waystone would be unclogged eventually or not, but I can't find it. This comment says a few days would be fine. While this one says a month is where Mathilde would start worrying. Though they were made before Mathilde began studying the Waystone Network at all.
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Hmm... a month being safe certainly points pretty strongly at a week not being enough to notice, especially if you are not looking for it. which Mathilde would not have been.

Given that I think it is more likely Thorgrim has some ability to command the flow provided he can find it. He did seem to be quire surprised at the synchronizing response and not just surprised it was happening at that moment, but in general.
 
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DragonParadox said:
Given that I think it is more likely Thorgrim has some ability to command the flow provided he can find it. He did seem to be quire surprised at the synchronizing response and not just surprised it was happening at that moment, but in general.
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He probably had the ability to "turn off" flow from another karak but never tried it because he was already in bad enough straights or the system on power savings mode wouldn't let him. And because he never turned on off he also never had one turn on to notice the message.
 
Tobtorp said:
He probably had the ability to "turn off" flow from another karak but never tried it because he was already in bad enough straights or the system on power savings mode wouldn't let him. And because he never turned on off he also never had one turn on to notice the message.
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You know if he just handed us that thing, we could probably give a decent shot at debugging it, you know let the elves poke it and talk magic at it, but of course that will never happen because blah blah... holy runes blah... This is why it's a bad idea to let mystery cults build your infrastructure. :anger: :V

Yes I am aware the dwarfs did not have a choice on who made their magical infrastructure
 
DragonParadox said:
You know if he just handed us that thing, we could probably give a decent shot at debugging it, you know let the elves poke it and talk magic at it, but of course that will never happen because blah blah... holy runes blah... This is why it's a bad idea to let mystery cults build your infrastructure. :anger: :V

Yes I am aware the dwarfs did not have a choice on who made their magical infrastructure
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Tbf randomly shutting off the power system to your nations survival when you don't know how half of it works is probably one of those moves you only do once...

Another thing I just thought about... Thorgrim had a klaxon sounding in his ear every time he sat on that thrown for 180 years... I am rather shocked he isn't more... Suicidal? Willing to do unspeakable things?

Edit: like, after it turned off I'm willing to bet he still had nightmares about that klaxon.
 
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Tobtorp said:
Tbf randomly shutting off the power system to your nations survival when you don't know how half of it works is probably one of those moves you only do once...

Another thing I just thought about... Thorgrim had a klaxon sounding in his ear every time he sat on that thrown for 180 years... I am rather shocked he isn't more... Suicidal? Willing to do unspeakable things?

Edit: like, after it turned off I'm willing to bet he still had nightmares about that klaxon.
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I meant more not being able to call tech support because the technicians twelve generations ago decided that the next generation did not deserve the manual. A culture where it is better that secrets be lost then given to the undeserving and a biology that needs the infrastructure on or everyone dies off pair very poorly was the point.

I'm pretty sure the High King used to be suicidal, just as a political ideology
 
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Dragonofelder said:
Also @Boney, can this MAGDA WESSEN story be threadmarked?
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If you or @BurnNote can suggest a name for it, sure.

DragonParadox said:
Oh right I was thinking of the Waystone Clog, but then than would have been much more slapdash than just turning it off... then again that is also a Karaz Ankor Waystone whereas the one in the quote is not. I think this might be worth asking the GM @Boney assuming one of the Karaz Ankor stones was blocked and the flow had nowhere to go how long does she expect would take for noticeable Dhar accumulation to happen? Days? Weeks? Or more?
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You'd need to know how much energy is going in and how much energy it has the capacity to store before you could answer that question.
 
Thorgrim probably won't share the details on the Throne of Power, the Rune of Eternity, or the Runes of Valaya, but that's fine. Belegar being told "the power goes to power mighty runeworks important to the Karaz Ankor", with the Eyes of Grimnir, Sally Port of Gazul, etc being described as lesser works by comparison should fall within Thorgrims oaths, as well as within the purview of the Waystone project.
 
DragonParadox said:
I'm pretty sure the High King used to be suicidal, just as a political ideology
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Yeah. The whole "strike out as many grudges as possible before the dwarven race goes extinct" attitude was essentially just a slow-motion, very stubborn, very spiteful, and therefore very dwarven way to commit suicide.

Something that is to becoming a slayer as a slow burn is to a gunpowder explosion.
 
Simon_Jester said:
Yeah. The whole "strike out as many grudges as possible before the dwarven race goes extinct" attitude was essentially just a slow-motion, very stubborn, very spiteful, and therefore very dwarven way to commit suicide.

Something that is to becoming a slayer as a slow burn is to a gunpowder explosion.
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To be fair, when you have seemingly incontrovertible proof that your race is completely doomed, it's less "suicidal" and more "determined to go out on your own terms".

If Thorgrim wasn't wrong it'd arguably be admirable, dedicating the time you have left to striking at your enemies.

EDIT: Removed a zombie quote.
 
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