Parabola
Divided Loyalties Librarian
- Location
- The Destination of Fate
- Pronouns
- She/Her
That's just an extreme example to point out how travel time is already abstracted anyway.
Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
- Thread starter Boney
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Well, we did purchase a whole Gyrocarriage to make travel take less time for us, so I think that actually it is was not below the level of abstraction until we had a private Gyrocarriage.
K von Carstein
Likes to go for a walk
- Location
- Belgium
- Pronouns
- He
Concerning going to Cathay, it would be so. Travelling by land would take months, and even by sea it would be very long. In any case, there would be a ridiculous amount of dangers.
- Location
- North Wales
- Pronouns
- He/Him/His
And yet it's a single-AP action already available to us. I expect it'd be talking with a caravan factor in Pigbarter rather than going directly to Cathay itself, but that's a not-inconsiderable trip itself, in the complete opposite direction to Ulthuan.
My point was that the actions available to normal turn-planning are geographically all over the place, and only the fact that we've got so many interesting actions at home that we never pick more than one road trip at a time in a given turn makes things even semi-plausible. But there is nothing mechanically stopping us from doing every single "Explore the other waystones networks" in the span of six months if we wanted to, returning to Laurelorn each time to pick up new road-trip buddies for every action. And we'd still have time left over to go visit several other far-flung corners of the map. Because, to repeat, travel time is below the level of abstraction in the quest.
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K von Carstein
Likes to go for a walk
- Location
- Belgium
- Pronouns
- He
Yeah, it's unlikely to be going to Cathay itself, because that's even farther away than Karag Dum. I wasn't saying you were wrong in general, only in the specific case of going to Cathay.
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- He
Nah, he can just go with what I voted for. It's generally a good idea in life, if ever confused, to ask yourself what would benefit WestorEast the most and then do it.
No? It's a majority for an outright yes.
pucflek
Verified simpleton
- Location
- Czech Republic
And no amendments, as far as i can tell.
It's a yes to change something with just a small majority for what to change.
If that's what it takes.
We chose to take her on as an apprentice. We made that commitment. That means we don't just fuck off somewhere on an entirely different continent from her for several months, especially not if that means leaving her in a strange place she's never been before.
Sure, Lothern is safe from big gribblies and the like. The main threats to her will be intrigue/social style threats and while yes she's a very promising Grey apprentice she's still a kid who's gonna be dealing with elves who have been doing that shit for centuries.
Our apprentice, our responsibility
The yes vote is for not changing it.
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Yes is for not changing anything actually. I assume all the people that voted yes and an alteration did so under the assumption that the addition didn't rise to the level treaty being changed, just some subtle additions to the artistry or whatever being added.
Our responsibility to our apprentice is not to the level of constant attendance, our responsibility is ensuring she learns what she needs to go journeying (This is basically already done) and don't just totally ignore her for long periods of time (Which amounts to ensuring she's involved in at least one action a turn). She's also not a kid at this point by the local reckoning.
Our responsibility is to look after and teach our apprentice. Sure, that doesn't mean constant attendance but there's a vast gulf between 'constant attendance' and 'fucking off to another continent for several months while leaving them in a strange city'.
Besides, if she's so close to being ready to journey and she's already essentially an adult then surely it isn't much of a wait until she's no longer our apprentice?
Tasoli
Life is for Living
- Location
- Behind the Keyboard.
Not just local reconing, she will be 18 soon. That is old enough. Mathilde was thrown to deep end as a spymaster at 22.
More to point we do need to have her prepared for the journey and part of that letting her be herself for a time. We already let her of the leash at the coal trade action and she was gone for like a month and we didn't even know where she was for the most of it. At this point it is crying after spilled milk.
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What you want our responsibility to be and what it actually is are different things, and I think it's important to make that clear. If you want Mathilde to go above the baseline that's your call. But what you want is not our baseline responsibility and shouldn't be presented as such.
Omegahugger
Inattentive Idiot
For anyone keeping track, this 59-to-1 vote result officially means
This, in its own way, is a victory.
- Location
- Earth
To be more clear on the numbers, Eike turns 18 in 2493, which should be Turn 47. Mathilde became spymaster at 20.
To be clear, dumping her on the colleges with a lesson plan would probably be fine and I'd be somewhat okay with that (although I still think Elfcation can wait a bit, especially if she's so close to 'graduating' like people keep saying), but I would not be okay with doing as people have been suggesting and dumping her in Lothern.
Mopman43
Mountain-Hermit of Nitpeak
- Location
- Vermont
A turn or two ago she spent several weeks traveling the Empire without Mathilde anywhere nearby negotiating a charcoal trade route.
Lothern would be vastly safer.
Tasoli
Life is for Living
- Location
- Behind the Keyboard.
And Kislev. She was outrigh in another country and than she was on Sea of Claws which is worse.