Everyone is partly biological and partly warpstuff, that is what having a soul means. It could be that their actual souls discorporated and are living in the warp, that is literally what death is, but it does not explain the lack of access to a lot of their resources and as others have said it does not explain all the similar but different gods.
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Everyone is partly biological and partly warpstuff, that is what having a soul means. It could be that their actual souls discorporated and are living in the warp, that is literally what death is, but it does not explain the lack of access to a lot of their resources and as others have said it does not explain all the similar but different gods.
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Pretty sure that's humans being specifically contrasted against elves, and seems to rather imply that there were three different "seed" populations for human rather than a single origin point they spread out of. Proto-Albionese, Proto-Nekeharans, and Proto-Cathayans. Further changes to humanity that would've made them into seperate species may have been in the plans, but then Chaos Happened before any of that actually got underway.
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You know that brain expanding gif? That's me right now.
Due to some previous comments of yours about what you have prepared for Mathilde's death I was really relieved when I reached this context at the bottom
FYI, my main regret while I was under the impression that we hit a sudden Game Over was that we didn't get any cool fights using our new swordstyle.
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Be'lakor was an Old One?
It does explain why no one remembers his race anymore, it is not any of the races that still exist and more to the point the prize of an Old One explains why Chaos was willing to make him an Undivided Daemon Prince.
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These have to be the Dwarves. Is Zl cagey about them because they just escaped? (embarrassing)
I think the gods were the Deific Interface Pantheon, but + a lot of stuff happening including gaining sentience? Combining with old ones? Getting killed and repurposed?
Zl-1 and Zl-2 would be hashut and kazar?
Is that meant to be Cl, or is Ct -- a two-letter name that doesn't show up again anywhere else -- intentional?
I could've sworn the Orcs were from the Darklands, in the east of the World's Edge Mountains, but I guess that was wrong. Or maybe Zl was spread across the entirety of the World's Edge Mountains, and some of it was in the north-east part of it and edged into the Darklands.
Wonder if this is how the Mandala got filled out a bit. They 'looted' some Gods.
Or maybe why that one library got burned down; because they looted knowledge from other Research Continents, and stored it in the library, and it was dangerous knowledge or knowledge that simply didn't belong to them or knowledge that they couldn't keep as secure because it was hastily taken from afar rather than locally-kept knowledge that they had all the procedures and knowhow of how to keep secure. Or for all we know, a Daemon got in and it had to be burnt before it absconded with the knowledge or sabotaged things. Or who knows.
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I think they became Gork and Mork.
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Uh yes? That's isn't what I meant though, I meant that they blur the line between "This is a biological species" and "This is a species of energy beings." Like yeah, obviously souls are tied into the warp, thus everybody has 'warp-stuff' inside them.
Well to touch on 'lack of access to resources' one would assume the coming of Chaos kinda fucked things up. It's possible things we don't know about were damaged or sabotaged, it's possible any potential survivors hid and waited for the heat to die down, or that they were wounded and went into some kind of healing trance/sleep/coma thing. There's plenty of reasons they could lack their resources.
As for similar but different Gods, isn't most of threads reasoning for such things that some of them are the same Gods just named differently for different cultures?
But if it does outright disqualify the Old Ones from being the Gods, or maybe they aren't all of the Gods, then if these Old Ones mirror their 40K counterparts in the 'creating life' 'shaping reality to their wills' then they might also have done some 'God-forging' for their creations to try and better prepare them for the Great Enemy/Chaos kinda like the 40K Old Ones did for the Korks and Aeldari as a way to better battle the C'tan.
It is, fixed.
I mean sure there could exist a class of beings that straddle biology and warp-stuff, but it would be odd that such beings would have to travel in ships, like normal squishy air breathers, indeed Deathfang noted that they were weak compared to the space-flight capable elder dragons. It is of course also possible that all gods are simply made things, but we know of at least one god which does not seem to be. The PoV character in that side story seems to be some version of what would later become a god of snakes in Nehenkara and a god of thieves in the Old World.
I'm not saying my theory is definitely true, but there are some decent hints in that direction.
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You know, I just realized. Cd-3's "abandonment" of Cd-2 probably had more than a little influence on Ulric's self-sufficiency thing.
The deific interfaces may have inherited something from the Old Ones that used them, even if they're not the Old Ones themselves. If one Old Ones used multiple different deific interfaces, it's possible that all those different gods may remember having done something, even if it technically wasn't the same them that did it.
The fuck
It says destroyed not subsumed or something, that combine with boreks tale makes me think they were shattered and the remains uploaded into a corrupt DIP for hashut and integrated into nehekaran DIP for kazar.
Elves created skaven confirmed. 👌
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No those two Old Ones were messing with orcs and orc gods so unless that option is chosen those two Old Ones will be eaten by Gork and Mork as they get out of control.
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If you assume that travel through the stars has no convenient source of energy to draw upon -- though who knows if space in Warhammer Fantasy is like space in IRL, it could be weirder an innately FTL-like for all we know -- and if you require Aether in order to exist and live as a maybe-partial-energy-being-who-knows, then your ship's life-support system is presumably a lot more exotic than just "air and pressure and stuff".
The Dragons probably carry the energy inside their bellies or scales or in their fire or something, during long journeys through the stars. The Old Ones may store the energy in their ships or devices rather than within themselves. Or they can store some, but it's like a human storing food rather than keeping it in the fridge, compared to a Dragon being able to store a whole shitload of energy.
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It actually mentions a foreign strain called Orks, which i believe they are called in 40k, this seems to imply that orks were brought to malus, turned into orcs and goblins and Gork and Mork were already in existence before this happened and took control from the old ones.
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So, here's an attempt at editing to make it a bit more readable and familiar. Take with a grain of salt, obviously there's a lot of interpretation going on here.
Having actually gone through it for everything, it SEEMS to be suggesting that Dwarves are a project based on Goblins. Which is weird. It's a weird suggestion. Possibly that would be the origin of "why do dwarves have their own weirdo pantheon and not generally DIRECTLY fall to chaos" because Orcs ALSO have their own weirdo pantheon and don't generally directly fall to chaos, but apart from that and being small, it's hard to see much else as a connection.
Having actually gone through it for everything, it SEEMS to be suggesting that Dwarves are a project based on Goblins. Which is weird. It's a weird suggestion. Possibly that would be the origin of "why do dwarves have their own weirdo pantheon and not generally DIRECTLY fall to chaos" because Orcs ALSO have their own weirdo pantheon and don't generally directly fall to chaos, but apart from that and being small, it's hard to see much else as a connection.
Dwarfs fall to Chaos much more than Orcs and Goblins.
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Another realization. Three of the dwarves' biggest enemies, the greenskins, the skaven, and the dawi zharr, can all be traced back to the Zl team. No wonder Karag Dum were so wary of them. That, plus this description:
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Hobgoblins, maybe? But that would leave the Dwarves unaccounted for, I think.