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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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Boney said:
Runesmith conservatives consider development of new Runesmithing techniques to be heresy on its own
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Can we try and convince them that they're just learning things they'd forgotten they'd forgotten? :V:V:V:V:p
this is in regard to the general question. Obviously Thungni had the good sense to not touch apparitions with a Karak long pole, however surely he knew everything else you could do with runes?
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Tobtorp said:
Ok, being serious for a moment. I really doubt boney will go "aha! You have fallen for one the classic blunders! The first one is never start a landward in Asia! But the second one is giving the qm even just the hint of a opportunity to fuck you over by being creative with your resource usage!" If we really want the titanium we might have to work harder but it won't be impossible.

Edit: so it might be impossible to get titanium production anyway!
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Had Boney not commented when you were typing that?
We hadn't even gotten into the fact that every time we wanted new Titanium for new waystones, we'd either need to sneak past the Chaos dwarves each time or discover entirely new ore deposits closer to home.
Figuring this problem out, is the task of Empires, not a bunch of academics.
 
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You know if we get the Red Riders I wonder if we couldn't use the spell as a basis for a defense mechanism, basically have the Red Riders spawn to murder death kill things that try to mess with important parts of our waystones without permission.
 
Dark as Silver said:
Can we try and convince them that they're just learning things they'd forgotten they'd forgotten? :V:V:V:V:p
this is in regard to the general question. Obviously Thungni had the good sense to not touch apparitions with a Karak long pole, however surely he knew everything else you could do with runes?
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There was the suggestion to give Kragg one of the Morbs to try to carve a rune into, as the nearest thing to carving a rune into soulstuff.

But imo Kragg is too precious to risk blowing himself up on something this potentially unstable.

Sinsystems said:
You know if we get the Red Riders I wonder if we couldn't use the spell as a basis for a defense mechanism, basically have the Red Riders spawn to murder death kill things that try to mess with important parts of our waystones without permission.
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I think that's the enchantment form of the spell.
 
I am really looking forward to the nuln bit. It's just so outa left field, a grey wizard rides into your ravaged town to help you rebuild your foundries with dwarven assistance for the low price of a copy of every book you can scrape together. The elector-count of wissenland will want a strong drink for that.
(@Boney, can we gift the elector count a barrel of dwarven ale too? For his nerves?)
 
Boney said:
The Dwarves are not going to leapfrog all the way to 20th century metallurgy just because they got one peek at an alloy that contains a new metal. They're not going to experiment with every single combination of heats and ores and reactants until they stumble upon smelting ilmenite under flowing chlorine. They're not going to take the resulting liquid, which has a nasty habit of emitting gaseous hydrochloric acid, and then react it with magnesium, for a great many reasons but not least of which because they don't know what magnesium is. They also don't have the stainless steel equipment to do this safely even if they wanted to because they also don't know what chromium is.
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That begs the question of how the pyramidions got made in the first place then, because i would´ve thought that Dwarves would be the ones supplying metalurgy.

Unless, of course, the Skytitans actually contributed to that project also.
 
Dark as Silver said:
Can we try and convince them that they're just learning things they'd forgotten they'd forgotten? :V:V:V:V:p
this is in regard to the general question. Obviously Thungni had the good sense to not touch apparitions with a Karak long pole, however surely he knew everything else you could do with runes?
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Whether Thungni is considered to be omniscient within the realm of Runes and their interaction with the world, or whether He just knows all the things that should be done with Runes, or whether He's just the best that any Dwarf could ever be with Runes so you shouldn't second guess Him by trying things that He didn't do first, or whether He is not the pinnacle but should be emulated and respected anyway as the founder of the Cult and ancestor of the Clans, or whether His primacy is a matter of having special insight to know what applications of Runes were safe from the corruption of Chaos and therefore the boundaries dictated by His example is the only way of keeping Runesmithing safe from corruption, is a deeply private internal theological matter of the Cult of Thungni.

Tobtorp said:
I am really looking forward to the nuln bit. It's just so outa left field, a grey wizard rides into your ravaged town to help you rebuild your foundries with dwarven assistance for the low price of a copy of every book you can scrape together. The elector-count of wissenland will want a strong drink for that.
(@Boney, can we gift the elector count a barrel of dwarven ale too? For his nerves?)
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He'd be slightly confused by why you bothered, then would tell a servant to take it into the cellars and would forget it ever existed by the end of the day. He's the Elector Count of Wissenland. If for some inexplicable reason you think restoring the cornerstone of Nuln's power and influence isn't being generous enough, then you'll have to come up with something he couldn't get arbitrary amounts of just by mentioning it to his steward.

pucflek said:
That begs the question of how the pyramidions got made in the first place then, because i would´ve thought that Dwarves would be the ones supplying metalurgy.

Unless, of course, the Skytitans actually contributed to that project also.
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By sourcing it already smelted from the Titan Holds? The update explicitly named that as the source.
 
pucflek said:
That begs the question of how the pyramidions got made in the first place then, because i would´ve thought that Dwarves would be the ones supplying metalurgy.

Unless, of course, the Skytitans actually contributed to that project also.
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The priests of vaul know a lot of metallurgy too, and can probably cheat with magic.
Edit, ninja'd. The dwarfs of Azorn knew.
 
Boney said:
By sourcing it already smelted from the Titan Holds? The update explicitly named that as the source.
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Ah. I didn´t really connect the "we know this is that metal because our rangers found something exactly like that in titan hold two thousand years ago" and them being the actual source when the network was first made.

Wouldn´t the Skytitans have still been alive for large part of the project?
 
pucflek said:
Ah. I didn´t really connect the "we know this is that metal because our rangers found something exactly like that in titan hold two thousand years ago" and them being the actual source when the network was first made.

Wouldn´t the Skytitans have still been alive for large part of the project?
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Yeah. Hatalath said that the Grey Lords only know that the ships that brought the metal back to Ulthuan came via the Gates of Calith.
 
Well, that probably makes the pyramidions entirely unviable to replicate, because even if Ogres didn´t loot everything from the holds (they apparently didn´t, if Dwarf Rangers found it, thought its been another two millenia since then), and then subsequently probably lost a lot of it, it would still be a very finite supply when we are trying to build something that should be replaceable ad infinitum.
 
pucflek said:
Well, that probably makes the pyramidions entirely unviable to replicate, because even if Ogres didn´t loot everything from the holds (they apparently didn´t, if Dwarf Rangers found it, thought its been another two millenia since then), and then subsequently probably lost a lot of it, it would still be a very finite supply when we are trying to build something that should be replaceable ad infinitum.
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Sky Titan metals are probably pretty hard to eat which is why the Ogres didn't loot it.
 
Having more then one waystone version to pick between could be useful when construction starts even if the drawback of one of the options is you can only make X in total due irreplaceable materials.
 
I actually have questions about Branulhune.

If we hit the average ork with it, do they explode or are they sliced in half? If we also clip the ork behind them, do they also get hit with the full force of the rune, or is there a recharge delay on the cannon rune activating?

Like does Mathilde have to individually poke every individual or is there some sort of cleave effect? Instantly killing and individual is good and all but getting swarmed by clanrats is a bit embarrassing if Mathilde has to kill them one by one in a vacuum.

Oh God im falling into the trap of 'how do runes work?'

(Double tap essentially being double attacks in tabletop terms is starting to trigger buyers remorse a bit now lol)
 
Tobtorp said:
I am really looking forward to the nuln bit. It's just so outa left field, a grey wizard rides into your ravaged town to help you rebuild your foundries with dwarven assistance for the low price of a copy of every book you can scrape together.
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Sounds like good Negaquest fodder. Imagine how paranoid we would get if someone offered help like that in this quest unprompted. Either that, or a bonkers good roll.
 
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Van Hal the Witch Hunter
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    An excerpt of Ranald's Realm, set to the tune of Blake Shelton's God's Country, by the anonymous bard known as Gepette.
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    Gepette the Chatty had another song in him. An excerpt of Van Hal the Witch Hunter, set to John Brown's Body.

    Verse 1:
    He was a warrior of Sigmar, with faith in every part
    Hunting down the heretics, tearing their cults apart
    But in the midst of battle, his life was taken away
    Leaving his body lifeless, on the ground where he lay

    Verse 2:
    His sword once shining bright, now silent and still
    His armor dented and battered, with dirt and grime and chill
    But his soul still burns strong, with the passion of his quest
    To rid Stirland of Vampires, and put the Necromancers to rest

    Verse 3:
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    For he gave his life for faith, and never did he hide
    His legend lives on, in the tales that are told
    Of Van Hal the Witch Hunter, whose heart shined as gold

    Verse 4:
    He fought for what was right, with all his strength and might
    His bravery never faltered, he never lost his sight
    Of the duty he had sworn, to protect the faithful flock
    And though his body's gone, his legacy won't be forgot
     
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