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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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Wiggy said:
Huh, saw lots of people talking about chaos hating necromancy. Good to know if we do somehow fall into being everchosen we can still raise a giant army of the dead to help out.
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That rumor might be about Krell.

He's a former Chaos Lord raised by Heinrich Kemmler and he is possibly vector through which the Dark Gods try to corrupt the Lichmaster.

But it might also be that the rumor is getting it wrong and the Wight isn't still associated with Chaos at all. These reports are not all perfectly reliable and soldiers fighting hordes of the dead might not notice whom the corpses truly serve, Chaos or some Necromancer.
 
Boney said:
At the same time that you were yanking Karak Vlag back into the mountains, the Six-Cult of the Soulflayer and the Nine-Cult of the Eldritch Watcher went to war with each other, detonating decades of secrecy and careful recruitment in the process as Witch Hunters waded in and finished off the survivors."
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It's impossible to do anything but speculate here, but it'd be very funny if two major cults imploded because they were fighting over who would get to try and corrupt Mathilde.

Sculpt0r said:
You're joking, presumably, but it isn't actually a bad idea for us to get a Daemoncheck ball, what with our increased Chaos visibility profile. Depends on the CF cost I guess.
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Iirc the last time this came up it was like 7 or 8 CF as a combo of Light's Demand and Banish
 
A few typos I caught:
Boney said:
"Is this a danger unique to wielders of the Winds?" Belegar asks cautiously,
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This is either an incomplete sentence or the comma needs to be swapped for a period.
Boney said:
"Up here is isolated enough from magical energies that whatever came through would only have what was being experimented enough to sustain itself," Kragg says.
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*being experimented on/with, one of those. "Being experimented enough" doesn't quite parse AFAICT.
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"Minus whatever was lost to actually making the breach in the first place. It could bring energies through with it, of course, but it's zero sum, it's either a larger force coming through or a smaller force than can last longer.
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*that can last longer
Boney said:
Bretonnia says Kharan, Ostermark says the Dark Master of Mordheim, Hochland says Gorthor, all three provinces that had forces at Ostwald Moor say that Harald the Hammer, Remas says Erghal Bloodhard.
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*say Harald the Hammer

Happy holidays and thanks for the update! Truly an excellent early Christmas present for me (and the thread, but I didn't want to seem to assume that's the holiday everyone's celebrating).
 
When Kragg, the highest possible authority on all things magical among dawi, says "preferably decades, but at least a year", i am going to say that we take a year.
Is it somewhat extreme precaution?
Yes.
But we are still living in a dawi hold and unless we have very good reasons ("but our morb dunk", is not a good reason), i would rather we not go against established authorities.
 
Valmond said:
When Kragg, the highest possible authority on all things magical among dawi, says "preferably decades, but at least a year", i am going to say that we take a year.
Is it somewhat extreme precaution?
Yes.
But we are still living in a dawi hold and unless we have very good reasons ("but our morb dunk", is not a good reason), i would rather we not go against established authorities.
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We could just pay 2 gallons of AV to have another tower built and use that one next turn.
 
Didn't Mathilde pay for the Colleges to get their own 'Rooms of OH SHIT!', why not use one of them? Maybe not the one in the Grey College, don't want to open a liminal realm within a liminal realm. The one that the Amber's have would be the best one to use.
 
Imugi said:
Didn't Mathilde pay for the Colleges to get their own 'Rooms of OH SHIT!', why not use one of them? Maybe not the one in the Grey College, don't want to open a liminal realm within a liminal realm. The one that the Amber's have would be the best one to use.
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Because we don't want anyone to know about the morbs until we are ready for the dunk.
 
Imugi said:
Didn't Mathilde pay for the Colleges to get their own 'Rooms of OH SHIT!', why not use one of them? Maybe not the one in the Grey College, don't want to open a liminal realm within a liminal realm. The one that the Amber's have would be the best one to use.
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IIRC, each of those are aligned to their college's needs, meaning filled with the appropriate winds. They're for training a specific wind, not neutrally aligned for experimentation like Mathilde's and the AV is wind sensitive.
 
Imugi said:
Didn't Mathilde pay for the Colleges to get their own 'Rooms of OH SHIT!', why not use one of them? Maybe not the one in the Grey College, don't want to open a liminal realm within a liminal realm. The one that the Amber's have would be the best one to use.
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I think they're dedicated to battle magic training. The Ambers' is also full of Ghur in the middle of an environment where there's only Ghur, so it's not a great place for a shadowmancer to cast.
 
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DragonParadox said:
We could just pay 2 gallons of AV to have another tower built and use that one next turn.
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I don't think this works (we don't get free PENTHOUSE actions anymore), and even if it did, it would take a turn to be built, and even if we were willing to do that:
Boney said:
[ ] Tower of Oh Dear - with a series of very prominent buttons easily accessible from anywhere in the room, be able to drain all magical energies in three heartbeats. Near-complete immunity to miscasts and any other conceivable magical threat. 200gc, 3 College favours, 3 Dwarf favours.
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It's only 1 gallon of AV, but 3 CF and 200gc, which is a lot for shaving just a single turn off of the "cooldown." I don't think that's a good idea, we have plenty of things on the priority list that don't require being done in the Calamity room, we can just do those for two turns. It's a bummer, but it's a lot less of a bummer than I was worried that coming clean about the Lord of Change would be, so I'll accept it with a smile.

EDIT: BTW, Boney, if you are willing and able to field questions at this point about whether Mathilde would want the Room of Calamity for a particular action from the outset (I understand that Stuff might come up mid-action that might make her want the Room of Calamity when she hadn't before), I am interested in the "Create Orbs of Sorcery solo", "Attempt to codify Rite of Way so that others can learn it", and "Attempt to gain control of one of your Arcane Marks" actions. My expectation is, respectively, "yes" "no (either Room of Dawn and Dusk or no applicable room)" and "no (Room of Dawn and Dusk instead)", but I want to check, if those answers are available at this point.
 
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picklepikkl said:
I don't think this works (we don't get free PENTHOUSE actions anymore), and even if it did, it would take a turn to be built, and even if we were willing to do that:

It's only 1 gallon of AV, but 3 CF and 200gc, which is a lot for shaving just a single turn off of the "cooldown." I don't think that's a good idea, we have plenty of things on the priority list that don't require being done in the Calamity room, we can just do those for two turns. It's a bummer, but it's a lot less of a bummer than I was worried that coming clean about the Lord of Change would be, so I'll accept it with a smile.
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We could have it built in Laurelorn which would have the advantage of high energy laboratories where we can work with elves who do not want to get on the whirring dwarf contraption to travel halfway across the continent.
 
DragonParadox said:
We could have it built in Laurelorn which would have the advantage of high energy laboratories where we can work with elves who do not want to get on the whirring dwarf contraption to travel halfway across the continent.
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Even if that's true (which I'm not convinced it is, since we'd need runelord expertise, which may be less possible in Laurelorn -- Thorek comes for the Project but that isn't necessarily a commitment to upgrading our digs), based on how previous "set up local infrastructure in Laurelorn" worked it would cost us an AP (both living quarters and magical laboratory needed that) and need a turn before it was ready, which is way too high a cost of entry. If it were going to be out of commission for like three years, maybe, but spending an entire AP (plus a nontrivial amount of money and CF -- I agree with you that the AV cost isn't a big deal) just to have Calamity facilities one single turn earlier? Not worth it, we have so many better uses for an AP.
 
picklepikkl said:
Even if that's true (which I'm not convinced it is, since we'd need runelord expertise, which may be less possible in Laurelorn -- Thorek comes for the Project but that isn't necessarily a commitment to upgrading our digs), based on how previous "set up local infrastructure in Laurelorn" worked it would cost us an AP (both living quarters and magical laboratory needed that) and need a turn before it was ready, which is way too high a cost of entry. If it were going to be out of commission for like three years, maybe, but spending an entire AP (plus a nontrivial amount of money and CF -- I agree with you that the AV cost isn't a big deal) just to have Calamity facilities one single turn earlier? Not worth it, we have so many better uses for an AP.
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Fair enough, I do not think it would be worth AP either

BTW as I said at the time I am glad to have been wrong on the College reaction.
 
picklepikkl said:
Even if that's true (which I'm not convinced it is, since we'd need runelord expertise, which may be less possible in Laurelorn -- Thorek comes for the Project but that isn't necessarily a commitment to upgrading our digs), based on how previous "set up local infrastructure in Laurelorn" worked it would cost us an AP (both living quarters and magical laboratory needed that) and need a turn before it was ready, which is way too high a cost of entry. If it were going to be out of commission for like three years, maybe, but spending an entire AP (plus a nontrivial amount of money and CF -- I agree with you that the AV cost isn't a big deal) just to have Calamity facilities one single turn earlier? Not worth it, we have so many better uses for an AP.
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Although imo if Mathilde could get political favours from the elves for this, that would be a different matter.
 
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