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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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K von Carstein said:
Isn't it strange that Neferata is better at dueling than Vlad? She isn't really known for her fighting prowess.
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Vlad isn't particularly either.

Vlad's known for his generalship, statesmanship, and having an artifact that let him continuously come back from the dead.

If you look at it this way, she's so good at the intrigue and social manipulation that her excellent combat abilities don't get as much play.
 
If we're going after Neferata, maybe there's someone that could... maybe... have a vested interest in seeing her put down? Maybe... someone with a Grudge that predates the Dawi's knowledge of her? Someone with a large, inexhaustible force, who would likely care nothing for lands or treasure? Maybe...?

Her cousin, we should contact her cousin. High Queen Khalida, Tomb King(Queen) and noted vampire hater.
 
Dragonofelder said:
If we're going after Neferata, maybe there's someone that could... maybe... have a vested interest in seeing her put down? Maybe... someone with a Grudge that predates the Dawi's knowledge of her? Someone with a large, inexhaustible force, who would likely care nothing for lands or treasure? Maybe...?

Her cousin, we should contact her cousin. High Queen Khalida, Tomb King(Queen) and noted vampire hater.
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I don't think Mathilde in-character knows about that.

Not that Mathilde in-character is thinking about going after the Silver Pinnacle either (probably).
 
K von Carstein said:
On the first hand, it would be ridiculously awesome. A shadowmancer LM with the ability of a vampire, our belt and our sword is just too cool. On the other hand we would loose every single relationship we have, likely including Ranald.
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I don't know, I think Ranald is one of the few gods that might be cool with a vampire follower, especially if they were turned against their will. The Deceiver and the Night Prowler would probably be amused by a vampire pretending to be a human.

The Protector would get upset if they preyed on the weak, however, so you'd have to find a sustainable way of feeding.
 
K von Carstein said:
On the first hand, it would be ridiculously awesome. A shadowmancer LM with the ability of a vampire, our belt and our sword is just too cool. On the other hand we would loose every single relationship we have, likely including Ranald.
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There is a question which comes to mind when it comes with this statement. Why is it believed we would loose every single relationship we were had with the individuals in our social network?
 
Nerdasaurus Rex said:
I don't know, I think Ranald is one of the few gods that might be cool with a vampire follower, especially if they were turned against their will. The Deceiver and the Night Prowler would probably be amused by a vampire pretending to be a human.

The Protector would get upset if they preyed on the weak, however, so you'd have to find a sustainable way of feeding.
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I know very little about warhammer except broad strokes, is ork blood edible for vampires? If so we have a renewable resource that is pretty much universally hated.
 
Dheer said:
There is a question which comes to mind when it comes with this statement. Why is it believed we would loose every single relationship we were had with the individuals in our social network?
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Because vampires are seen as evil abominations against nature and the gods by everyone we know. There's also the fact that they kinda eat people. Vampires have terrorised the entire Old World for millennia, and good ones are basically non existent.

The Colleges would try to hunt us down as soon as they discover it, because they can't afford a vampire with the knowledge and power of a LM to survive.

Belegar and all our friends would likely see killing us as an act of mercy, freeing our souls to go in the afterlife.

Alioth said:
I know very little about warhammer except broad strokes, is ork blood edible for vampires? If so we have a renewable resource that is pretty much universally hated.
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Vampires can drink blood from humans, elves, dwarfs, halflings and dragons. I don't know if they can drink from greenskins given that they're fungus, but I guess it wouldn't be that strange.
 
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K von Carstein said:
Because vampires are seen as evil abominations against nature and the gods by everyone we know. There's also the fact that they kinda eat people. Vampires have terrorised the entire Old World for millennia, and good ones are basically non existent.

The Colleges would try to hunt us down as soon as they discover it, because they can't afford a vampire with the knowledge and power of a LM to survive.

Belegar and all our friends would likely see killing us as an act of mercy, freeing our souls to go in the afterlife.
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They know enough about vampires to know that "killing" us would not free us, but they would likely consider it a kinder alternative to letting us go mad from the hunger.
 
Mopman43 said:
Vlad isn't particularly either.

Vlad's known for his generalship, statesmanship, and having an artifact that let him continuously come back from the dead.

If you look at it this way, she's so good at the intrigue and social manipulation that her excellent combat abilities don't get as much play.
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Plus, Vlad's been dead for centuries, and Nefereta could be practicing literally every day as far as we know. She could start every morning by dueling like five vampires at once.

I would. Gotta stay in practice.
 
Alioth said:
I know very little about warhammer except broad strokes, is ork blood edible for vampires? If so we have a renewable resource that is pretty much universally hated.
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In general, Vampires almost exclusively seem to drink from humans.

Whether that's preference or necessity is probably not certain. According to at least some sources, their need to feed on the recently dead instead of the living (to avoid attention) is one of the reason the Strigoi are misshapen and monstrous.

Night's Dark Masters for instance only talks about human blood when discussing the rules for feeding the Thirst.

And there's also these quotes:
"What is it, in this blood, that so dominates my body, mind, and soul? Does the Chaos taint upon the Human race make their blood flow with magic, like some distilled formula of Warpstone? I know none who take sustenance in the magic-devoid Halflings, and there are many great Rituals which depend on the spilling of Human blood. Perhaps it is that the Winds of Magic let us buffet the passing of time, and we have simply found the easiest way for our souls to harness them." —Lord Aristarchus, Necrarch philosopher

"Halflings are watery and bland, Dwarves thicker to the point of being flat and stagnant. One does not drink such things unless one absolutely has to. Elves are like well-aged claret—rich but often overly sweet, a treat best reserved for special occasions or as a dessert. Personally, I prefer a Kislevite—of Gospodar descent if possible— but they are a little strong to serve at a dinner party." —Lady Ariette von Carstein
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K von Carstein said:
Because vampires are seen as evil abominations against nature and the gods by everyone we know. There's also the fact that they kinda eat people. Vampires have terrorised the entire Old World for millennia, and good ones are basically non existent.
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I absolutely do not want to become a Vampire. OTOH, there is a dragon like, right at home :V. And if you object to that one, there might be one in Thunder mountain.
 
Wasn't there a Karak which was plagued by dragons. Just go there and use our rep to go ahead and kill some dragons.
 
Alitur said:
Wasn't there a Karak which was plagued by dragons. Just go there and use our rep to go ahead and kill some dragons.
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Zhufbar has a couple fire dragons in a level that they blocked off.

I don't know if Mathilde even knows the story of Abhorash curing himself of the thirst (or even if she does, that she treats it as truth instead of one of surely many, many myths about vampires), and I think that, even if she cured the thirst, most people of the Old World would still be of the mind that she's better off dead.
 
BurnNote said:
The only reason I'm against vampire Mathilde is that it probably doesn't allow Shadow Dragon Mathilde.
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On the other hand, it doesn't directly disallow for SDM, indeed we know there is already species synergy between vampires and dragons, and we know vampires change shape depending on their situations (because the bloodlines are different)

And so I am proud to present for the thread's consideration Shadow dragon vampire Mathilde, DVM for short

And we'll probably only have to break like 2 of the articles to do it (does it count as Dhar manipulation if your body is made of the stuff? are vampires breaking the articles?)
 
K von Carstein said:
Because vampires are seen as evil abominations against nature and the gods by everyone we know. There's also the fact that they kinda eat people. Vampires have terrorised the entire Old World for millennia, and good ones are basically non existent.

The Colleges would try to hunt us down as soon as they discover it, because they can't afford a vampire with the knowledge and power of a LM to survive.

Belegar and all our friends would likely see killing us as an act of mercy, freeing our souls to go in the afterlife.


Vampires can drink blood from humans, elves, dwarfs, halflings and dragons. I don't know if they can drink from greenskins given that they're fungus, but I guess it wouldn't be that strange.
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So, you are saying that the immediate response towards finding out Mathilde got turned into a vampire is to immediately murder her and not even attempt talking with her whatsoever. That not a single one of her connections will not attempt to even talk to her in the first place such as Cython, Horstman, Belegar, Johann or even Paranomia, to at least investigate and find out what the hell happened to her or at best get a cooperative force to which they can research the condition known as vampirism with a willing subject which is known for their extreme acts of loyalty and the actions of the individual to help and go for immediate hostile action? That seems to be counterproductive.
 
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