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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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Boney said:
You murmur a few familiar words, and the Ulgu flowing through you rises to the surface, hardening into a protective layer. "Today we change the world we live in."

"Damn right we do," Van Hal replies. "Men of Stirland, charge!"
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Oi, the emotions. There's so much of this weird sensation of dread when rereading and it all culminates here.
 
Codex said:
10x the magical knowledge that Vanhel had
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The talent, probably, the knowledge, not really. Even by Mathilde's own reckoning the man was a genius.

Mind you, i agree, Mathilde would be exponentially more powerful necromancer than even Frederick van Hal was.

Honestly, i am not seeing the need to show Liber Mortis to Eike... ever maybe? As of right now, we don't know her. Just because you teach someone and might think they are decent doesn't mean they are the sort of decent to not go mad with power of Liber Mortis. Thats gonna take at least a decade of solid proof of character, which we do not have, because Eike is 1) basically a child, 2) a child we don't meet particularily often.
 
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In terms of power Frederick van hel was unexceptional. He was also able to stalemate the Underempire with only the resources of a nearly destroyed Sylvania.
 
Aranfan said:
In terms of power Frederick van hel was unexceptional. He was also able to stalemate the Underempire with only the resources of a nearly destroyed Sylvania.
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In terms of power yes. In terms of intelligence, Mathilde called him a genius. I think it's important to make that distinction. Also, Sylvania's status was a boon to him, not a disadvantage. He had millions of corpses and tons of Warpstone. That's an advantage for a Necromancer.
 
pucflek said:
The talent, probably, the knowledge, not really. Even by Mathilde's own reckoning the man was a genius.

Mind you, i agree, Mathilde would be exponentially more powerful necromancer than even Frederick van Hal was.

Honestly, i am not seeing the need to show Liber Mortis to Eike... ever maybe? As of right now, we don't know her. Just because you teach someone and might think they are decent doesn't mean they are the sort of decent to not go mad with power of Liber Mortis. Thats gonna take at least a decade of solid proof of character, which we do not have, because Eike is 1) basically a child, 2) a child we don't meet particularily often.
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I was specifying magical knowledge. Mathilde knows all that Van Hal knows of magic (Liber Mortis), and much more from a lifetime of being immersed in it. His crash course from Vladimir who was using him as a lab rat is not a comparison. He's a genius, but that doesn't mean he understand magic to the same extent that Mathilde does.
 
I know more than Archimedes ever had the chance to learn. He would still run rings around me intellectually. But I can do things he couldn't just because I know how.
 
Are there any major Verenian institutions in Stirland? I like the idea of giving them the LM, but I don't know if there are any temples / libraries big enough to properly secure it.
 
Personally, the main idea that comes to mind for me regarding passing down the Liber Mortis at the moment is Belegar.

There's basically no chance Belegar would misuse the knowledge within, but I also think he's also pragmatic enough to see the potential value of it in a really bad scenario, as much as it'd rub him the wrong way.

We'd better apologize to him in our will for putting yet another weight on his shoulders, though.
 
dinomannitro6 said:
Are there any major Verenian institutions in Stirland? I like the idea of giving them the LM, but I don't know if there are any temples / libraries big enough to properly secure it.
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Verena isn't super popular in Stirland. Sigmar, Morr, Shallya and Taal are the popular gods there according to Tome of Salvation Page 79. There are Myrmidian locations as the result of Leonardo de Miragliano deciding to make something for Her on a whim, but I can't remember anything big on Verena off the top of my head.

Also, literacy isn't big in Stirland. It's the rural backwater of the Empire.
 
LadyLynn said:
Personally, the main idea that comes to mind for me regarding passing down the Liber Mortis at the moment is Belegar.

There's basically no chance Belegar would misuse the knowledge within, but I also think he's also pragmatic enough to see the potential value of it in a really bad scenario, as much as it'd rub him the wrong way.

We'd better apologize to him in our will for putting yet another weight on his shoulders, though.
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If we're giving it to a dwarf I'd choose either Gunnars or Kragg. They are much more likely to be able to make sensible use of it in the course of their regular duties and both are trustworthy.
 
Jreengus said:
If we're giving it to a dwarf I'd choose either Gunnars or Kragg. They are much more likely to be able to make sensible use of it in the course of their regular duties and both are trustworthy.
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Gunnars.

Kragg spends so long in his workshop that he might not notice a crisis in the empire until it's mostly wrecked.

Otoh, Gunnars is connected enough, and we got the Order of Guardians some contacts in the Empire (forgot who, off the top of my head though)
 
LadyLynn said:
Personally, the main idea that comes to mind for me regarding passing down the Liber Mortis at the moment is Belegar.

We'd better apologize to him in our will for putting yet another weight on his shoulders, though.
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We did ask him to build us a Great Library, what's one more book in the mountain :p?

Joking aside,
In all seriousness, just because we spent our Boon on buying Kvinn-Wyr the Library, doesn't mean that it's settled. Maintaining the library will last the rest of Belegar's life, and ideally until the end of days.

I don't know, but I think it's very possible that he still thinks he's under-repaying us for K8P, and this weight would/could go towards alleviating that. He could also chalk it up to repaying the people of the Empire for contributing in general.

Also between his positioning close to the Badlands/Tomb Kings and his Gyrocopter Corp, he's well situated to sound the alarm of something undead comes rumbling out of the south.
 
We should send it to Algard if Mathilde dies. The look on his face when that appears on his desk. He could add to the collection of tomes that are allegedly kept within his Screaming Towers.

Although I suspect the best option is to just leave it in a vault in our Grand Library.
 
Codex said:
He just said "I trust you'll know what to do with it". I'm going to guess he had a reason for it, perhaps that he doesn't want to burden his children with that legacy anymore.
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I think the reason is exactly the one he gave: Mathilde knows best what to do with it. He wasn't expecting some specific thing, he just figured that whatever was the right thing to do, Mathilde would know.
 
Boney said:
cannonbolts
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@Boney, I think this should be cannonballs.

Boney said:
by nine new
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I think this should be 'by nine, new'.

Boney said:
[Enemy Force Reaction: 98]
[Rolling...]
[How much does the collapse of the outer castle bother them? 99, very, very much]
[Enemy Magical Reaction: 18-50=-32]

However, it seems that the bombardment has awoken something. They emerge from the ruins of the courtyard one by one and throw themselves into the air with shrieks that carry to where you're sitting. You shout an unnecessary warning as men and dwarves bustle in a sudden frenzy of activity.

Vargheist. Like most Stirlandians, you knew the legends: deep in the bowels of Castle Drakenhof, there are row after row of countless coffins that the von Carsteins call their beds. But they are far from united, and whenever one falls from grace, their coffin would be chained shut as they slept, and they would remain trapped with nothing but their terrible hunger and the dark magic of Sylvania for company, and both would twist and mutate them until they were finally strong and insane enough to tear themselves free... it was one of a thousand terrible stories about the vampires, each less likely than the last, but it seems that this one was actually true.
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Boney said:
The vargheist has just gone extinct.
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Looks like we don't have to worry about vargheists in our mining operation.

Boney said:
To your relief, the mortars and grudge throwers start dropping shots where you could see them instead of falling behind the walls where you had no way to tell what effect they were having. You're truly starting to despise the fog of war.
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We should get around to a work around at some point.
 
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