Parabola
Divided Loyalties Librarian
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- The Destination of Fate
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- She/Her
I bet the Old Ones were just big spheres and they were like 'whats the least sphere-like thing we can make' and then they made bipeds
Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
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You know when you say stuff like that it hurts my feelings.
- Location
- Australia
Source?
Do all Norscans wear oil wetsuits all the time?
- Location
- Who knows?
Random sad thought but if the Throne of Power gives Thorgrim a real time readout of Rune power he'd probably know for certain if the Norse Dwarfs are dead since they aren't draining any power for Valayas runes.
I will say that i can see both options together, that norscans are cleanly folks while in their villages or on land and that when they go raiding in the sea of claws they use the whale fat ( or whatever it was) for insulation.
Edit: makes more sense when you factor in that as horrid as lubber smells to the guy getting plundered it probably smells worse to the plunderer, so washing that off is probably a priority after coming home.
Edit: makes more sense when you factor in that as horrid as lubber smells to the guy getting plundered it probably smells worse to the plunderer, so washing that off is probably a priority after coming home.
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Sir_Travelsalot
Never wakes up tired.
- Location
- At Home
Page 72 of Knights of the Grail has this to say about the populace of Gisoreux:
"After a single meal and one night's accommodation, visitors are expected to earn any further friendliness by reciprocating. Clever and mobile rogues manage to sponge off the Gisorens' largesse for years, but far more are recognised and find themselves shunned. These customs even extend to the more civilised parts of the Forest of Arden, but there, new arrivals are expected to begin their visit with a bath, in which they are supervised constantly by armed villagers. The bath is, of course, a courtesy, and the guards are for the guests' protection, and the fact that it is impossible to hide most mutations whilst naked is pure coincidence. Attractive female visitors may find many, many men are eager to protect them. Women pretending to be men find that people in this region are generally good at overlooking such things."
Within the context that most Empire citizens would encounter a Norscan, such as being attacked at sea by a boarding party, a coastal or riverside village being raided, or being in a tavern with a lone mercenary fully embracing the stereotype to make themselves seem more exotic and thus worth paying more, yes. They would likely scrub it off while within the confines of home, though.
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- Location
- Australia
That seems to be custom of a specific part of Gisoreaux, specifically the Forest of Arden, which is home to a bunch of mutants.
I don't think the Norse Dwarf holds are on the main network—otherwise they would never had been lost in the first place.
DocMatoi
Theoretical Lover of Girls
- Location
- within 2 hours of the White House
- Pronouns
- They/Them
not necessarily- they could all be dead, but the structures that make up the waystone itself is undamaged
The Slaan could probably do it. Of course, they are literally the best at magic, so. . .
Mopman43
Mountain-Hermit of Nitpeak
- Location
- Vermont
The Norse Dwarfs aren't part of the network, either the part where Waystones feed into it, or the part where it feeds into the Karak-Runes of Valaya.
Voikirium
SV's Estalia Guy
- Location
- Ruritania Illinois
- Pronouns
- He/Him
I would just like to point out that this is a single monk dropping a single hot take and that it therefore cannot be assumed to be a representative example of the opinion of the common Anglos, any more than a quote from incel.is should automatically be taken as representative of modern ideas of anything.
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consequences
Not A Nice Person At All
- Location
- Jerkville
It tells him that they're not connected to the Karaz Ankor network. There's now probably precedent from Vlag and Dum that this doesn't mean they're 100% for sure and certain time to take a Slayer Oath gone.
On the other hand, 98-99.5% sure is enough to not try to go digging to open up a path to them that the assorted hordes of Chaos proved unable to breach in the happy event some of them are still alive. Not when there are Holds to reclaim closer to home anyway.
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- They
Possible typo: of thr symbols (that) have survived
Mopman43
Mountain-Hermit of Nitpeak
- Location
- Vermont
They were never part of the network to begin with.
notanautomaton
I've got 99 quests, I've finished one
I wonder if you could get a Belthani Tributary Stone to move the magic to another tributary leyline rather than a Waystone. Or maybe you could make the production easier by starting with a Tributary Stone that's very close to the target Waystone, and slowly moving away.
does this mean she currently wavering on whether or not to share it?
- Location
- Actually pretty lost
Would it be worth digging a hole down to see a leyline in person? The winds are clearly being affected by something, that they continue to travel in a straight line after being released by the Waystone.
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- Location
- Canada
Seems like a reasonable idea, though it would probably be easier to find a location where a leyline intersects an existing mine, rather than drilling our own hole, unless they're a lot shallower than thought.
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- They/Them
Given the rest of the body corpus of English history, I feel it's more an attempt to whitewash the Norse ancestors and the, you know, wholescale mass rape and sex slavery they conducted, especially because it really stinks of certain things later slave owners used to justify how they treated female slaves.
It means that dropping the 'druids are from Ulthuan' theory onto the table for general discussion could be about as conducive to harmonious cooperation as a live hand grenade.
The entire point of the Waystone Project being a group activity is that Mathilde is not obliged to personally confirm literally everything. Cadaeth, the person whose entire job it is to grow tributaries, says that the only significant difference between the operation of the Belthani stones and the Lornalim is in the depth they operate from, and the Belthani stones taking advantage of the tendency for leyines to form and flow easier along cardinal directions easily accounts for those differences. The information Mathilde has available to her agrees with that, so job done, box ticked, mystery solved, the project can move on. Mathilde does not personally have to go out there with a shovel and dig a leyline up unless she has reason to doubt the original hypothesis, and doing so will be taking time away from her contributing to translating Anoqeyan and deciding whether the naughty stones need to be destroyed or confiscated.
This is absolutely not a conversation I would like to occur in this thread.
- Location
- Earth
Kudos to everybody who took a crack at the ciphertext epigraph!
Evidently Regimand was right in telling Mathilde to brush up on her ciphers if they were broken three times in a few hours
- Location
- Edmonton
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Unless a wog says otherwise this seems to miss the point of the original poster's point maybe. The Rune of Valaya in Karaz a Karak as I understand it in this universe is what confers the metaphysical protection necesarry for Dwarfs to survive above ground post Cataclysm. And that the Rune seems to do this through the ritual involving the consumption of stone soup every Dwarf child goes through. If the Norse Dwarfs practiced it as well, then theyd also be conferred that same protection? In which case the High King could theoretically notice the population discrepancy and drain depending on how much info Azamar gives him. Which is what I think the original poster was saying?
Even if the northern holds dont supply power to the south theyd still be using if they follow that practice like the New Holds do.
Then again I could be mistaken about DLs dwarf canon.
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- He
I'm not Hydroplatypus or deathbybunnies, but I personally didn't read this as 'check Cadeath's work because we don't trust her', I read it as 'huh, I wonder what kind of neat stuff happens to the stone and soil that the Leyline actually occupies/passes through?'. While I'm sure we'll get to this in the Leyline mapping action, I'd imagine a Leyline that intersects the open air to look like a spring of magic, much like an aquifer intersecting the air looks like a spring of water.
So generally, I think of the Winds as semi-sentient flows of water. Liquids with preferences and a loose relationship with gravity.
With that in mind, here are my thoughts on the subject.
1) Stone is an excellent insulator of magic.
Another way to put this, however, is that stone is magic (semi)permeable. For a mental model with real substances, consider water and clay.
2) Winds want to be where
In the absence of other factors (sufficient Willpower manipulating them, density differentials, etc etc) Winds will gather around objects that resonate with them. To read a bit more into what Cadeath said, if the Lornalim don't shunt them deep enough, then they wriggle back out of the stone and soil to re-coagulate around their nucleation points.
3) Winds are picky and lazy.
If they like where they are, they'll stay there (positional inertia?). If they don't like where they are (or would like somewhere else better), they'll try and fix that.
So we can arrange a hierarchy of Wind-attractiveness as follows (as best I remember)
The Vortex*1 > Nexuses > Waystones > Leylines > Tributaries*2 > Dhar*3 > Enchanted Objects > Resonant Objects >*4 - Stone
*1 - Which is presumably the impetus behind Winds vastly preferring to flow underground along cardinal directions
*2 - Note: this is the empty-wind attractiveness quotient, i.e. how much a Wind wants to occupy an empty space. This is, I think, literally how a Tributary functions (with a one-way Leyline dump at the bottom).
*3 - Note: Dhar is exactly as attractive to a Wind as any two Winds are repulsed by each other.
*4 - This one isn't really an attractiveness gradient per se, but Winds really seem to dislike Stone/Mountains.
Working questions:
Are Resonant/Enchanted Objects actually more or less attractive than Tributaries? Test: put a saturated object, then a basic enchanted objected on a tributary, check in a day or two to see if they discharge (or more immediately, see if the plants touching a tributary are healthy but empty/less saturated with Ghyran than usual).
Why can Ghyran be pulled out of/sourced from stone, as in that scene where Mathilde told Pan how she finds a big Magic stat attractive? (surface-exposed stone??)
What actually happens to the stone along a leyline? Does the constant friction of Winds passing through it render it magic permeable over time?
Apologies if this feels like a rehashing of other discussions, I just wanted to collate our metaphysical puzzle pieces so far, and put out a couple questions for future turns/action plans. I feel like we have some important corner pieces, and half of the colors of the box picture. And that's pretty good!
pucflek
Verified simpleton
- Location
- Czech Republic
As it should be, considering, well, the auspicious origins of the name Aether.
Luminiferous aether - Wikipedia