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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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Deathbybunnies said:
I suspect we aren't actually going to break the College Favour system with the Orbs of Sorcery. They're technically replaceable by 6-10 Power Stones, but are only usable for projects that need at least 6 Power Stones without wasting some "value", so 6 Power Stones is logistically more valuable except for exactly those old Battle Altars designed to use Orbs, and prestige.
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Okay this is a thought thats been in my mind for a while and your comment here is a good jumping off point I feel.

I know Boney has said Orbs of Sorcery don't seem to do anything a series of smaller powerstones can't, but I suspect that a single Sorcery orb of Volume 4X is more useful, efficient, powerful, or a mixture of the above than 4 powerstones each of Volume X linked together. Like maybe an Orb of Sorcery of Volume 4X needs 6-8 powerstones of Volume X to do the same job. So a powerstone usefulness doesn't necessarily scale linearly, the sum is greater than the whole etc etc.

I know that as solidified magic they aren't bound by physical rules, but I imagine there's a reason why bigger appliances irl use single bigger batteries vs a bunch of smaller ones in series, so maybe something similar applies to powerstones vs Orbs of Sorcery.
 
Tobtorp said:
I would love to get the sexy dragon books but we don't really know of anything that we could offer the sexy dragon for his sexy books that the sexy dragon couldn't get through intimidation itself.
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The first thing that comes to mind that Cython mightttt want is a Hysh OoS from our second batch. This idea is just a shot in the dark, though.

But more than general 'books', I'd want specfic lore/tales that we can use to dab on elves that think themselves old :p
 
While I don't think that it'll be at the level of "have your cake and eat it too", I feel like it's worth mentioning that since Cython, unlike the We, can't be everywhere in the library at once, we'd still need to hire a number of additional librarians afterwards, as judged trustworthy by both Mathilde and Cython.

Ergo, with Cython now, it's possible to gain some of the benefits of Locals later (albeit almost certainly in diluted form), whereas if we go with Locals now the difficulty of gaining some of the benefits of Cython afterwards has been well-established.
 
Aranfan said:
I don't want to run a corporation that handles censorship for the crown and then wants to keep most of its publishing monopoly after the censorship ends. No.
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I think they mean causing such a mess that other people decide copyright laws are needed.
Where does censorship come into it? I suppose the greys might do some of that from time to time
 
Redshirt Army said:
While I don't think that it'll be at the level of "have your cake and eat it too", I feel like it's worth mentioning that since Cython, unlike the We, can't be everywhere in the library at once, we'd still need to hire a number of additional librarians afterwards, as judged trustworthy by both Mathilde and Cython.

Ergo, with Cython now, it's possible to gain some of the benefits of Locals later (albeit almost certainly in diluted form), whereas if we go with Locals now the difficulty of gaining some of the benefits of Cython afterwards has been well-established.
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Problem with that is that the cythion vote states that them would get hiring privileges so that he can get a staff that he can be comfortable with. So we would not be hiring anyone for the staff.
 
Dragonofelder said:
I think they mean causing such a mess that other people decide copyright laws are needed.
Where does censorship come into it? I suppose the greys might do some of that from time to time
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The statute of Anne, the first copyright law, had as its major backer the publishing guild that Queen Anne's censorship regime had given a publishing monopoly to.

Adhoc vote count started by Aranfan on May 12, 2022 at 12:32 PM, finished with 1865 posts and 340 votes.
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Aranfan said:
I don't want to run a corporation that handles censorship for the crown and then wants to keep most of its publishing monopoly after the censorship ends. No.
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…I meant by secretly copying everybody's books a la the Ranaldian ninja method proposed earlier so people start making laws about not doing that to stop us.
 
Ericwinter said:
…How would the spider romance even work? The We are a self-perpetuating singular entity that only really reproduces by splitting themselves.

Hmm, maybe what happened with the Karak will become their model for romance? Finding a nice, stable civilization to support you that needs whatever large-scale function you decide to fulfill.
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We have actually explored this.
It's finding another We that The We finds succesful, and then carefully seeks to come to an understanding about exchanging spiders.
Actually, no, that's sex, not romance.

Well if we wanted to find out, we should have decided to date the sapient swarm of giant spiders i guess.
 
Aranfan said:
I don't want to run a corporation that handles censorship for the crown and then wants to keep most of its publishing monopoly after the censorship ends. No.
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What? Copyright laws are supposed to allow authors to make a living from their books. I don't think there's a need for them rn because given the small percentage of literate people there's no way you could live from that. But I really don't understand what censorship has to do with it all.
 
K von Carstein said:
What? Copyright laws are supposed to allow authors to make a living from their books. I don't think there's a need for them rn because given the small percentage of literate people there's no way you could live from that. But I really don't understand what censorship has to do with it all.
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The statute of Anne, the first copyright law, had as its major backer the publishing guild that Queen Anne's censorship regime had given a publishing monopoly to. The censorship regime had been ended by Parliament and they were desperate to find some way to maintain some of that monopoly.
 
Aranfan said:
The statute of Anne, the first copyright law, had as its major backer the publishing guild that Queen Anne's censorship regime had given a publishing monopoly to. The censorship regime had been ended by Parliament and they were desperate to find some way to maintain some of that monopoly.
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I think next time you could have explained this, because it just seems like a random note. I'm not sure how many people would even get it, sorry
 
Aranfan said:
The statute of Anne, the first copyright law, had as its major backer the publishing guild that Queen Anne's censorship regime had given a publishing monopoly to. The censorship regime had been ended by Parliament and they were desperate to find some way to maintain some of that monopoly.
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Ah ok, it's much clearer now. Anyway as I said I think it's simply not necessary to put any kind of law like that in place, it's not necessary yet.
 
Calling the Old world 'medieval' just feels wrong, parts of it are, most of Kislav and all of Knightland, sure, But even the poorest parts of the empire/Tilea/Estalia are closer in tech and outlook to mid-renaissance, with the most advanced parts being downright early modern.

to be fair, it doesn't always seem that way because Beastman and Orc's kind of make 'rapid spread of technology'... not a thing. so some libraries will be very medieval while others early modern....

but treating the K8Ps libarary as 'medieval' doesn't really feel right.
 
Jyn Ryvia said:
Calling the Old world 'medieval' just feels wrong, parts of it are, most of Kislav and all of Knightland, sure, But even the poorest parts of the empire/Tilea/Estalia are closer in tech and outlook to mid-renaissance, with the most advanced parts being downright early modern.

to be fair, it doesn't always seem that way because Beastman and Orc's kind of make 'rapid spread of technology'... not a thing. so some libraries will be very medieval while others early modern....

but treating the K8Ps libarary as 'medieval' doesn't really feel right.
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I suppose thats the problem with trying to impose our periods of history onto a fantasy world with radically different circumstances
 
Since I saw my last post sparked a bit of a mini-discussion re: arachnophobia, I did have one thing I wanted to add. Namely, I saw a number of people noting that they loved spiders and felt them to be unfairly maligned. And those feelings are totally valid! Spiders are, in reality, largely harmless to humans, and in many ecosystems occupy roles that are outright beneficial from a human perspective.

The issue, from an arachnophobe's perspective, is that is irrelevant. The definition of a phobia is an irrational or excessive fear relative to its cause. When you try to "educate" somebody with a phobia about how their fear is irrational, you are typically not actually providing them with new information.

The reason I decided to make a point of noting this here is that while exposure therapy can sometimes be effective for some people with phobias, it is not effective for everybody, and the process of attempting it can be quite emotionally trying in its own right. So if part of some people's thesis for voting for the We is that people will be able to just get used to having the library be full of giant spiders, it should be understood that is in reality just flatly not how that works for some people. And as another poster noted, arachnophobia is the most common phobia possessed by humans.

I don't want to seem to suggest that it's inherently callous or whatever to vote for the We, people are still allowed to vote for it and be valid. I just wanted to provide some context that might be relevant if people want the library to be a welcoming environment to as many people as possible.

Also, it seems like a number of the things people are asking about possible benefits to the We from interacting with books are things that they definitely don't need to be librarians in order to do.
 
[X] Locals

Both patents and copyright laws were first implemented because the English/British Crown was broke and needed to raise money without actually raising taxes. Whether they morphed into good ideas afterwards or not, their foundation was barely-legal greed.
 
So, right now Cython is very far indeen from the top. What are the main concerns of the thread regarding him? Losing agency, or something else?
 
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