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So we're going for the massive flex, right?

Teclis couldn't find Vlag
Mathilde found flag and yoinked it out of the Aethyr.

Teclis made a set of orbs of Sorcery
Mathilde made two sets.

Etc, etc...
Teclis probably has more.
But I do want to send him a set, so he can put it on his fridge like a parent with their kids artwork.
 
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Would Mathilde have to stop at Orb os Sorcery size? Why not make orbs the size of a person's torso? Hell, make a human sized orb.
Technically speaking, nothing's stopping her. Practically speaking, a human-sized Orb would be such ludicrous overkill there wouldn't be a whole lot the Empire could possibly construct that would be able to make use of it. You'd essentially be making a wind-based nuclear explosive and asking people if they have anything that needs powering with the sun.
 
Orphans have the same fundamental problem as the We. They are going to need a lot of time, and a lot of training, before they can be librarians.

And if we want them to be loyal to us, that means that it will take a lot of Mathilde's personal actions to do that training.

I'd rather just go with an established group.
 
Right where is it. Where's that apoc of Belegar's mind working through the library request and going 'Dragon librarian, Dragon librarian, Dragon librarian'

Step up, cause ima slap you on the back and vote dragon
 
Added a note regarding the workings of libraries:
- A note on libraries: The possessiveness of some potential recruits is not as much of a concern as you might think. in this era, most libraries only ever lend out books if they have multiple copies or to exceptionally trusted individuals. They don't work the same way as modern libraries, where almost everything is expected to go out the door on a regular basis.
 
Meme votes aside, I'm thinking Verenans. We want the library to be used, guys--no one wants to visit a library staffed by giant spiders.
I feel like calling things "meme votes" is kinda unfair and not really engaging in the debate in good faith. Just because an option is very strange does not mean it should be dismissed as a "meme".

As for the actual critique, though, I agree that the "giant spiders can scare people" is a valid criticism. I do think its a temporary one, though. People can get used to all sorts of stuff if it stays around long enough.

Maybe initially a lot of people will be scared off, but in time it'll become normalized. Its a drawback that fades with time, and the "being a good library for people to use" functionality of this Library is something we were definitely thinking of being a long term investment, something that'll last for ages or millennia.

In the grand scheme of things, the time when people weren't used to the spider librarians would be a pretty short one.
 
Eyyyy, I'd wondered if Vitae would accrete into power stones (among many other possibilities). ^_^

Also is anyone else amused by the numerology here? Assuming Mathilde went whole hog on it (which we won't, alas) this would mean we would be able to gift Orbs of sorcery every... four years. *Pleasing to Ranald intensifies*

And, as you've become aware, the moment of the creation of Winds is one that is rather blinding to mystical senses. How do you derive useful insight from an event that is over in a fraction of a second, is invisible to conventional senses, and is blinding to unconventional ones?
Hunh, this sounds to me like a place for a Seviroscope: Not just for how it might aid the dwarves, but now also for Mathilde too.

Of course, that depends a lot but Fine detail, low intensity, capturing only a moment in time? Yeah, that seems like something a high speed camera would be ideal for. Or even just a basic one if you tuned it to only record the highest intensity so the moment of creation itself would moderate the speed.
 
So is there an issue of diminishing returns with the size of the orbs of sorcery? If not what's stopping us from say using 16 or 24 gallons and making our orbs larger than Teclis'?
 
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Nobody's tried it, but it'd probably be something like 'caster can cast one Cataclysm spell, it's impossible to counter, and then they die because they just consumed an energy ball the size of their head'. Their use in enchanting is generally what's focused on.
Ahh. What do they do for enchanting?

Sorry for the multiple questions, but google returned basically nothing.
 
On the subject of the We librarians I would like to point something out, one of our biggest issues has been finding scribes to copy everything. Now if we establish the We as the librarians then it shouldn't be too much additional work to teach them how to be scribes.

That will result in us having a source of scribes that can expand as needed and wouldn't require much additional training. Sure teaching them to be scribes might be a bit harder but we effectively only need to teach a single We how to do it once for it to work.

Plus it could result in a system where they copy books and the like in exchange for shipments of meat and food, thus dramatically increasing the amount of books in the world.
 
So is there an issue of diminishing returns with the size of the orbs of sorcery? If not what's stopping us from say using 16 ot 24 gallons and making our orbs larger than Teclis'?
This was answered by Boney a bit ago (maybe while you were typing): We know no reason it can't be done, but the colleges wouldn't know how to use something that large.

That said, I would expect reality-warping logistical issues to pop up at some point from having so many Orbs of Sorcery in one place.
 
... Yeah no we absolutely have to wheel a cart into Algard's office only to dramatically lift the tarp off and say "GOOD NEWS".

Well, this had me laughing out loud.

- A note on libraries: The possessiveness of some potential recruits is not as much of a concern as you might think. in this era, most libraries only ever lend out books if they have multiple copies or to exceptionally trusted individuals. They don't work the same way as modern libraries, where almost everything is expected to go out the door on a regular basis.

Hrm, ok, so this does ease some of my concerns about the Dragon option, but I still worry about having to negotiate with Cython about everything about the library going forward. Certainly, there's going to be a lot they won't care about and we can just get it done, but it will complicate things. And I really think the sheer physical size of Cython is going to be an issue.
 
On the subject of the We librarians I would like to point something out, one of our biggest issues has been finding scribes to copy everything. Now if we establish the We as the librarians then it shouldn't be too much additional work to teach them how to be scribes.

That will result in us having a source of scribes that can expand as needed and wouldn't require much additional training. Sure teaching them to be scribes might be a bit harder but we effectively only need to teach a single We how to do it once for it to work.

Plus it could result in a system where they copy books and the like in exchange for shipments of meat and food, thus dramatically increasing the amount of books in the world.
I mean, I'm not sure how much fine control the We have with their pedipalps.

Books tend to have pretty small writing.
 
I wonder if "[] scrounge around your friends and colleagues to see if they have any spare powerstones lying around the no longer need" is a viable option to save on CF :V
Just because Mathilde has multiple super-rare treasures just lying around doesn't mean that's a normal thing to do...

Also, I love Mathilde seeing the Dragon treasury and immediately stealing the idea. Vote Dragon !
 
Well, this had me laughing out loud.



Hrm, ok, so this does ease some of my concerns about the Dragon option, but I still worry about having to negotiate with Cython about everything about the library going forward. Certainly, there's going to be a lot they won't care about and we can just get it done, but it will complicate things. And I really think the sheer physical size of Cython is going to be an issue.

He fits in the library just fine, it was designed for it.
 
Ahh. What do they do for enchanting?

Sorry for the multiple questions, but google returned basically nothing.

Any power stone or Orb of Sorcery has two main effects: they can be made to release the power that was trapped in them and thus are consumed to power a single spell, which would probably be a bad idea for an Orb, or they can be used for their constant effect of making reality around them a little less real and a little more attuned to the Wind in question, making it so that any enchantment that incorporates a power stone or Orb of Sorcery can do more with the same amount of magic than if they didn't.
 
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