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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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[X] Ulric

Gets superpowers, avoids Wizard's political problems, avoids Ranald's rebellion problems, avoids Sigmar's Mathilde problems. :)
 
Zero Gravitas said:
Not really seeing any downsides to Grey College education; it isn't like the 'other wizards' will be a lot more popular.
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It's more of an image problem.

Nobles view the Grey College with fear because it's the Grey College that would be most interested in any secrets, and nobles as a class are basically brimming with secrets.

Just look at the passage where the Ostermark noble has to conduct diplomacy with Mathilde.

And given that the nobility is going to be the primary thing Mandred will deal with, I don't know that it'd be helpful for him to be a Grey.
 
Burned_Cookie said:
Bad idea, now every enemy attacks in winter. That would only work in a peaceful nation.
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Winter is terrible time to for war, even more so when you are the one attacking.
That just means the defender has had all the spring, summer and at least part of fall to ready their defenses and gather food in preparation for siege.

And as mentioned, generals are a thing.
 
Well that's good to know, unfortunately my college of choice won't win but I hope it's a college we haven't really done much with yet.

[X] Wizard
[X] Nullify
[X] Morr
 
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[X] Wizard

Does formal magical instruction preclude learning how to wield miracles?
 
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[X] Ulric
[X] Shallya
[X] Empire God
[X] Sigmar

Choosing Ulric (or another popular Empire god) would be the kind of surprising smash hit that I think would be really successful. An Emperor genuinely blessed by a god would have a pretty great leg up on the competition. The other candidates for Emperor would rather obviously not be blessed by a god and thus obviously inferior candidates.

Sure it means less direct devotion for Ranald but this would still be pretty good. Also I kind of like the idea of giving out such out of left field advice. It feels very Mathilde to suggest something like that.

"A Blessed Ulrican Emperor! It's like Sigmar has come again! Voting against Mandred is the same as voting against Sigmar and Ulric! Only a traitor to the Empire would do such a thing! Vote Mandred for Emperor!"

Wizard would be my close second choice though after an Imperial god.

Edit: Kind of surprised Shallya wasn't brought up too as an option yet. Heidi herself seems to be somehow rocking blessings from both Shallya and Ranald and everyone loves Shallya. If you want an uncontroversial choice then you can't do much better than Shallya (with maybe some Ranald side action).
 
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If there wasn't the temperament issue to take into account, I'd pick the Bright Order.

Jaya Ballard left quite an impression.

"Of course you should fight fire with fire. You should fight everything with fire."
 
[X]Wizard
Mostly, because the whole tradition of rejecting magic thing the Empire has might be considered a problem, it's only bad if the Empire doesn't take the easy way out of 'get another Emperor.'
And after Gotrek, we all know how likely canon is to happen. One could even argue Ablehelm also serves as an example plans being derailed by dice, to say nothing of the nat 100 that got us this.
 
Mopman43 said:
It's more of an image problem.

Nobles view the Grey College with fear because it's the Grey College that would be most interested in any secrets, and nobles as a class are basically brimming with secrets.

Just look at the passage where the Ostermark noble has to conduct diplomacy with Mathilde.

And given that the nobility is going to be the primary thing Mandred will deal with, I don't know that it'd be helpful for him to be a Grey.
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Greys are feared because they can report those secrets up the feudal chain. Regardless if Mandred is in a College or is dedicated to a particular Deity or even if he doesn't use magic at all he is going to want to know if the nobles are plotting and if they're paying their taxes correctly. The lower nobility fear Greys because they're better and more loyal than most mundane spies.

We haven't seen any particular anti-Grey bias (besides general anti-Wizard prejudice) from either the Emperor or the Elector Counts we've interacted with with because at their level secrets and spying is normal and they don't really worry about getting arrested because they defrauded the treasury for a couple thousand gold.
 
[X] Wizard

While it might tank his chances to be Emperor, that natural 100 makes it clear that is his destiny.
Besides, there can always be a 2° child.
 
Codex said:
I don't think Emperors mind affairs as long as things are made clear. Lots of marriages are arranged and not done out of love, so I don't think it's extraordinary for the Empire to have had several Emperors and Empresses with known affairs. This is also putting aside the possibility of polyamory.

I mean, obviously it's the type of things people in court titter and gossip about, but it's not the kind of thing that can cause widespread trouble considering how easily Heidi dismisses it.
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I suspect it could cause widespread trouble, if it were ever actually proven to have a basis beyond gossip. It's the sort of thing society turns a blind eye to, as long as it doesn't become undeniable. Or as long as the monarch isn't looking for an excuse. And historically speaking, it's generally more accepted for men than women. As long as it's not homosexual, because then it's a crime against god and you get in lots of trouble (again, historically speaking rather than personal views).

As is, because Mathilde and Heidi aren't actually doing anything, the worst it can do is be scandalous without being problematic.

Valmond said:
Winter is terrible time to for war, even more so when you are the one attacking.
That just means the defender has had all the spring, summer and at least part of fall to ready their defenses and gather food in preparation for siege.

And as mentioned, generals are a thing.
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Winter not being the war season has less to do with enemy food supplies, and more to do with the ungodly logistical difficulties (forage and transport are very difficult) and the fact that seiging an enemy fortress is absolute hell in winter, because half your army will freeze, die of horrible diseases, or starve.

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[X] Ulric

Choosing Ulric (or another popular Empire god) would be the kind of surprising smash hit that I think would be really successful. An emperor genuinely blessed by a god would have a pretty great leg up on the competition. The other candidates for Emperor would rather obviously not be blessed by a god and thus obviously inferior candidates.

Sure it means less direct devotion for Ranald but this would still be pretty good. Also I kind of like the idea of giving out such out of left field advice. It feels very Mathilde to suggest something like that.

Wizard would be my close second choice though.
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Ulric is somewhat contentious. Lots of tensions between Ulricans and Sigmarites, and Reikland is the heart of the Sigmarite faith. Also, being blessed by the gods is not a thing people just work out when they see you. Magnus had to have pretty much every major god send a direct sign that they favoured him to convince everyone. Finally, Sigmar would be a genuinely better choice politically, because he's the god of the Empire and was Magnus' primary deity, so there's good associations with Emperors blessed by Sigmar.

Zero Gravitas said:
We haven't seen any particular anti-Grey bias (besides general anti-Wizard prejudice) from either the Emperor or the Elector Counts we've interacted with with because at their level secrets and spying is normal and they don't really worry about getting arrested because they defrauded the treasury for a couple thousand gold.
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To be fair, Mathilde has spoken to what, three Elector Counts? Abelhelm and Roswita were and are more Witch Hunters than traditional Elector Counts and the last was Luitpold, who works with Wizards semi-frequently and theoretically has no accountability.
 
Zero Gravitas said:
Greys are feared because they can report those secrets up the feudal chain. Regardless if Mandred is in a College or is dedicated to a particular Deity or even if he doesn't use magic at all he is going to want to know if the nobles are plotting and if they're paying their taxes correctly. The lower nobility fear Greys because they're better and more loyal than most mundane spies.

We haven't seen any particular anti-Grey bias (besides general anti-Wizard prejudice) from either the Emperor or the Elector Counts we've interacted with with because at their level secrets and spying is normal and they don't really worry about getting arrested because they defrauded the treasury for a couple thousand gold.
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And as the Elector-Count of Reikland, it'll be the lower nobility that he'll spend most of his time dealing with.
 
Burned_Cookie said:
Bad idea, now every enemy attacks in winter. That would only work in a peaceful nation.
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... I mean, that is a boon all the same.

Even if winter wasn't bad for warfare (which it is, even with evil faction bullshit, only the undead are really immune to the effects such an operation would have), knowing when your enemy will attack is a massive strategic advantage, and its not like this makes the empire less capable of facing threats.
 
[X] Wizard

I'm hoping for Empress Roswita. It would be fun to see her end up with yet more responsibilities and headaches, and if she ever somehow finds out Mathilde might be responsible, it would be good to see Mathilde's friend who used to fear wizards not sure whether she's grateful for having another job going her way due to Mathilde. I'm imagining Empress Roswita having as regular meetings with King Belegar as she can just so the two of them can celebrate and commiserate with each other.
 
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