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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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Codex said:
We've messed with two of Slaanesh's big plots at this point. If we do it a third time I wouldn't be surprised if they throw Sigvald the Magnificent at us.

Probably the funniest person to send after Mathilde. He is arguably the dumbest powerful Chaos Champion out there.
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Oh god, and he might be the only one who could fully appreciate the silliness that is the Drycha booty we've acquired.
 
Vital representation of what a Himbo means in modern lexicon:
This is why I never refer to Johann as a Himbo. It just doesn't fit. He's kind, hunky and handsome, but not really stupid. He's just a hunk.
 
Mopman43 said:
Regarding the topic of Mathilde's family, previous WoB is that they would have no reason to associate the girl that was almost burnt at the stake with the Grey Wizard.
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That could be true for a while, maybe even forever. But we did compare genealogy with that one headsman of Biderhof. It is very possible that this information spreads to neighboring villages. And Mathilde's village of origin is also in that area iirc. All that's needed is a Weber traveling to Biderhof and someone noticing that interesting coincidence and telling an anecdote about how their very own local Grey Wizard came through here back in the day.
 
pucflek said:
She had some siblings and her parents have a decent shot of actually being alive is what i am trying to say. People survived till sixties all the time. I am not sure if the graph Jyn posted is accurate, but if it is, then the age distribution is pretty close to modern era, since people aged 65+ are currently about 9% of europes population. If you do extremely rough and unscientific division, then people are about three times as likely to reach 65 as they were in middle ages, but ultimately, considering the population, it was still pretty common to reach that age even then.
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It wasn't my intention say that they were already dead, just that she might be nearing the age where even her incident has been erased from the village as a whole. Even if most of the people back then are still alive, they'd be around 70 by now. By then I'd imagine the dominant demographic would be the generation after them (20-40). Even then, this still isn't the mortality rate, adjacent but not exactly the life expectancy.

The essence of it was the possibility that Mathilde is nearing the age where her existence and incident is all but forgotten by the village she was born in. The past authority is probably infirm, the people her parents age probably have no reason to remember her, and the kids probably not even retain it or the specifics at least.

Mopman43 said:
Regarding the topic of Mathilde's family, previous WoB is that they would have no reason to associate the girl that was almost burnt at the stake with the Grey Wizard.
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This fired a neuron in me, yeah I remember something like that.

Codex said:
This is why I never refer to Johann as a Himbo. It just doesn't fit. He's kind, hunky and handsome, but not really stupid. He's just a hunk.
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Kristoff being Beefy and Kind is missing his quirk of being a dork. Never watched Frozen 2 but in Frozen him being a dork was shoved down my throat.
 
Swantree said:
Kristoff being Beefy and Kind is missing his quirk of being a dork. Never watched Frozen 2 but in Frozen him being a dork was shoved down my throat.
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Dork does not mean stupid. There's a distinct difference between socially awkward and what it means to be a Himbo. A Himbo is the type of person to ask what color an orange is.
 
Codex said:
Dork does not mean stupid. There's a distinct difference between socially awkward and what it means to be a Himbo. A Himbo is the type of person to ask what color an orange is.
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That's what I meant though? I meant another category like how it's divided between beefy, stupid, and kind. Since it's appropriate enough for the other guys but Kristoff being beefy kind doesn't do it for me. Like that one guy from full metal alchemist with the black hair is a hunk for me, not so much Kristoff.
 
Swantree said:
That's what I meant though? I meant another category like how it's divided between beefy, stupid, and kind. Since it's appropriate enough for the other guys but Kristoff being beefy kind doesn't do it for me. Like that one guy from full metal alchemist with the black hair is a hunk for me, not so much Kristoff.
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There are dozens of black hair characters in Full Metal Alchemists. It's like saying "that one gal in the Wizard's Robes from DL".
 
Boney said:
Converting subjective experiences into immortal, static, and endlessly transmissible written words so that information can be gleaned about something by those who have never experienced it is extremely anti-Ghur.
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There are however other things that don't line up with Ghur that are still heavily involved with it, such as the crafting of magical items, the taming and training of animals with the Untamed Wind, or the spoken word (which is a bit important when your method of wielding magic is Lingua Praestantia). If you go as purist to theme with the other winds you'll similarly find things that seemingly shouldn't work, but then you're essentially crippling them, or even making them unusable.

In the case of Ghur, taking the written word away from it deprives the Amber College from a highly useful method of accumulating and transmitting information, and would mean you can't do things like make Scrolls of Kadon.

Codex said:
Speaking as someone who's read a lot of GW material, trans people are never mentioned aside from the problematic not really trans Slaanesh and his Daemons.
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There's a trans man in an adventure hook for WFRP 4e: Altdorf - Crown of the Empire on page 85:
Shipwrights from Tilea, Marienburg, and Nordland have migrated to Altdorf to overhaul the First Fleet. The energetic managing engineer is Herr Arnold Spald, a visionary shipwright whose designs are already the envy of merchant and navy captains alike. It is an open secret among Herr Arnold's workers that he did not always present himself as a man, but most who know and appreciate his skills see little reason to pass comment. Those few who do are quickly seen on their way by more practical folk. One of these ousted workers fled with Herr Arnold's latest designs, and the shipwright is eager to have his property returned before the design can be sold off.
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Codex said:
In terms of the character with they/them pronouns, I couldn't find them with a cursory look. I distinctly remember seeing them in this thread and thinking it was neat, probably in a post by @Andres who reads far more 4E than I do. They probably know who I'm talking about, because I certainly don't remember their name. Something about an Eonir who has something something spiders and spies/informants. My memory is fuzzy.
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There is Nayadaryn from Patrons of the Old World as mentioned, but the newly-released The Imperial Zoo has another non-binary Eonir by the name of Lynathryn Nightsong, who's a pregen PC. Page 127:
Lynathryn has been a scout and hunter for the Eonir of Laurelorn for centuries. They fought in the Great War Against Chaos a mere two hundred years ago, serving as a scout on the very edges of the enemy lines and often beyond. The experience changed Lynathryn forever. While it was doublessly horrific, the war brought together a diverse alliance of Elves, Humans, and even Dwarfs, all in defiance of a common foe. This has left Lynathryn with an unusually plesant attitude toward non-elves, even this [sic] sometimes comes off as condescension. It was due to their experience, limited as it is, with Humans of the Empire, that the Queen has set Lynathryn forth once more to learn what they can of the current state of the world beyond their forest. For their part, Lynathryn is excited to see just what the humans of the Empire have done with the gift of peace that so many elves died to provide them with.
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I think I've seen one or two other non-binary characters in 4e but I can't remember where. They weren't as big a deal as Lynathryn and Nayadaryn though.
 
Andres said:
There's a trans man in an adventure hook for WFRP 4e: Altdorf - Crown of the Empire on page 85:
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I was specifically referring to the works I'd read, which are 8th Edition and before that. 4th Edition is incredibly recent. I'm sure they're starting to explore trans subjects now, but they certainly didn't used to.

Otherwise, thanks for the information. That's more than I expected from 4th Edition to be honest.
 
Codex said:
There are dozens of black hair characters in Full Metal Alchemists. It's like saying "that one gal in the Wizard's Robes from DL".
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Given the context there's really only one though. I still don't know his name even though I used google.


P.S the internet is cursed, this is somehow in the same results as some weird stuff with Pride.
 
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I'm restraining myself from getting further involved in this debate. It's getting more and more offtopic and I'm not sure I want to get into etymological debates over words invented across the internet, which is widely famed for its uniform opinions on all topics.
 
Codex said:
I'm restraining myself from getting further involved in this debate. It's getting more and more offtopic and I'm not sure I want to get into etymological debates over words invented across the internet, which is widely famed for its uniform opinions on all topics.
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Not to worry, i am on it :V
Swantree said:
Given the context there's really only one though. I still don't know his name even though I used google.
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Well, that depends. Is he? Mustang is kind of a hunk imho, but i could be convinced he is instead a twink.

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Pretty sure Mustang would be a Twink, especially with the body language in that scene in the rain where he forgets that getting damp is bad.

On the other hand, the surprise hunk in our group would seem to be Max, as he is both our dweeby book scrawler and a beefy blacksmith's apprentice. I had to really change my mental image when that was pointed out.

Johann and Herbert both seem like jocks by Codex's schema, with Anton as a good man?

Belegar I'd put in hunk, Kragg is off the chart, and Dreng is definitely jock.

Who else?
 
Glau said:
Pretty sure Mustang would be a Twink, especially with the body language in that scene in the rain where he forgets that getting damp is bad.

On the other hand, the surprise hunk in our group would seem to be Max, as he is both our dweeby book scrawler and a beefy blacksmith's apprentice. I had to really change my mental image when that was pointed out.

Johann and Herbert both seem like jocks by Codex's schema, with Anton as a good man?

Belegar I'd put in hunk, Kragg is off the chart, and Dreng is definitely jock.

Who else?
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Oh why must you tempt me to continue this line. Alright.

First off, Roy is not a twink. He's a Twunk, in between Twink and Hunk. He's too muscular/wide to be a twink. Have you seen him shirtless? He's also not quite a hunk, so he's in between.
 
K von Carstein said:
What were those circumstances? And does someone knows of books or other materials explaining the subject?
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Probably the plague, I'd guess? Roman senators got along with serving boys just fine, and I'm not blaming this on the vikings, so it's gotta be a push to sprinkle some Sodom and Gomorrah on the tolerant voices to re-breed the peasants.

There are older roots, as the wiki suggests,
The Judaic prohibitions found in Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13 address the issue of sex between two men. The latter verse (20:13) says: "And if a man also lies with mankind, as with womankind, both of them have committed abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."
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but enforcement waxed and waned so my research instincts are telling me to look where the shinies got tight, and that would be the plague.
 
das_slash said:
Aften 10 years of grueling work, we are going to present our findings to an assembly of the Old World leaders, and the next day Kragg will show up with the "Stone of Advanced Aethyr Direction".
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Nah. Kragg isn't specifically Anti Thorek, it's nothing personal.
He's so apolitical, that at worst he'd say something uncomplimentary and then go back to his workshop.
T-posing on an individual to make a statement is one thing, but I think Kragg is wise enough to not do the same to everyone who lives in the old world.

Sure, he has no fucks left to give, but he wouldn't sabotage Karaz Ankor's public image like that.

If Thorek thinks the waystone project is a way forward, that's his business. Kragg has long since made up his mind about where the solution to the woes of Karaz Ankor lies.
 
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