This isn't exactly true. The Ice Witches have pull with the nobility, but the Hag Witches are incredibly influential with the Ungols, who form a substantial portion of Kislev's populace. Their political power isn't high, but their communal power is a different matter. They've got access to all sorts of weird and esoteric subjects and concepts that very few if any magical traditions have access to, like the ability to reverse mutations. No other lore is capable of doing that except Chaos itself.
Is there a theory saying the Hags serve a Daughter? There is a fairly convincing one for the Halethans, but I don't remember anything about the Hags.
Mathilde theorises on the Hag Witches earlier on in the Ostermark arc:
Either they have something to do with Waystones or do the same thing in a different manner, both would be useful.
True, but we can always recruit Hags later, while Kislev's support is probably a one-time opportunity. And I think we already have plenty of different traditions, especially with the IW. Imo it's enough to begin.
Weighing in on this, the Waystone I'm most interested in exploring is the one under Bokha Palace and whatever the one in Praag is supposed to be, because it's likely to give us clues as to what the hell is happening in Kislev that's redirecting the energy flow. We might be able to get access to the Bokha palace one from the favor we've accrued with Boris and Vladimir, but not so much with the Praag one. Praag is under the control of a Z'ra. We'd have to pull some serious political weight to get free reign in that city and start exploring its secrets.
Literally the entire project is built on gathering nominally-incompatible magical traditions and building a model of the Waystones that doesn't contradict any of them. A weirdly incompatible lore of magic isn't a problem, it's the point.
You're thinking of the Hedgewise, the Hag Witches don't have a patron goddess.
That seems a likely enough sequence, but if we don't recruit the Hag Witches here, we'll have to spend an action to do so later, and possibly/probably another to do their payment-favour. Then to get the benefit, probably a Re-Laying of the Foundations action to incorporate their perspective (alongside any other participants we've grouped for that phase).
Yes, but if we choose Kislev rn the access will be even wider, and we would potentially get a monetary contribution, which is bound to be considerable. I think financing the project is also an important part of it.
Yeah, and it was Teclisian theory combined with the Dwarfs that created the original network.
Yes, so what? I read this quest because it is enjoyable, and I would enjoy more reading about beginning the Project than about yet another recruitment turn. And Imo we at last have a wide enough variety of traditions to lay the foundation in an effective manner, especially with the IW on board.
I agree with that as well. I was simply pointing out possible cons attached to one of the choices. I'm not too invested one way or the other and would be fine with either Kislev or Hag Witches winning.
We have Drycha's lower half in Character Sheets under magical components and artifacts in the "Home in K8P" bar, but not the accumulated artifacts bar.
Boney has specified how many Kurgan weapons we have.
Except for their specific, unique ability where the Hags can do what Waystones do, and purge corruption.
I'm aware I'm not the only person in the thread. I was pointing out why I think thread impatience is a valid reason to begin the Project next turn.
Guess we must agree to disagree then. Also, we can always recruit them later.
Dammit, you're right 😉 Guess I'll have to change my vote.
