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What about the trips we made to attack the skaven? He didn't really give off anti-stealth vibes then. Is it simply because he's confident he's at a stage he doesn't need it?
The outpost. Remember your stealth failure at the outpost!
A few gestures has Substance of Shadow taking you into its familiar embrace, but Johann has declined your offer of the same safety. What plan did he have-

He's running.

He's running at the Skaven.

There's a cry of alarm and the fear and confusion intensifies as he jumps the barricade to land on top of the rat that just cried out, punching it
senseless with his gloved knuckles. A second rat swings a sword and you're sure this is going to be the extremely stupid death of an extremely stupid wizard, but instead of the now-familiar sound of metal sinking into flesh there's a solid clang of metal on metal.
 
What about the trips we made to attack the skaven? He didn't really give off anti-stealth vibes then. Is it simply because he's confident he's at a stage he doesn't need it?
He really wasn't very stealthy back then. Aside from following Mathilde when she's tracing out a torturous route around patrols/outposts, his idea of stealth is "punch everyone unconscious before they can raise the alarm." Which, I must admit, can work, for a given definition of stealth...
 
To be fair, Johann does have Intrigue 20. He's not bad when he wants to be, it's just… he doesn't usually want to.

Looking at the character sheets though, I'm kinda surprised to see that Egrimm only has 19 diplomacy. Would have thought a guy with his reputation would be somewhere in the mid-20s, at least., even if he's not evil here.
He really wasn't very stealthy back then. Aside from following Mathilde when she's tracing out a torturous route around patrols/outposts, his idea of stealth is "punch everyone unconscious before they can raise the alarm." Which, I must admit, can work, for a given definition of stealth...
Malfean stealth is a perfectly valid school of stealth. It just encourages you to be really fucking good if you want to succeed.
 
I want a gossip magazine omake about all the grey magisters coming down the red carpet to some imperial event and the chatter about which messages they are trying to send and to whom based on their selected book titles.
I gave this some thought last night before I went to sleep. Didn't get very far, because some of the LMs are a bit unknown to me, but the ones I did decide on were:

Algard: a random innocuous book from his Screaming Towers usually correlating to the identity or affiliation of their latest victim.
Melkoth: title unimportant, but usually has a visible publication date somewhere to tease those trying to figure out his age again. Has occasionally been sighted with a book that wouldn't have been published yet.
Wilhelmine: ledgers of the Grey College usually, which is how the public likes it. Everyone trembles once she's sighted with ledgers from the House of Goellner, which is interpreted as her being on the warpath but is actually just her being nostalgic.
 
Belegar did the Expedition with Stewardship 16. 19 is very high.
It's high, yes, but Egrimm supposedly had the charm to corrupt most of a college in canon. I would have expected at least heroic levels of diplomacy.

Though I suppose he could have ahead time to grow before then, he's just barely a Lord Magister by this point. And maybe focused on different things if he isn't evil.
 
I gave this some thought last night before I went to sleep. Didn't get very far, because some of the LMs are a bit unknown to me, but the ones I did decide on were:

Algard: a random innocuous book from his Screaming Towers usually correlating to the identity or affiliation of their latest victim.
Melkoth: title unimportant, but usually has a visible publication date somewhere to tease those trying to figure out his age again. Has occasionally been sighted with a book that wouldn't have been published yet.
Wilhelmine: ledgers of the Grey College usually, which is how the public likes it. Everyone trembles once she's sighted with ledgers from the House of Goellner, which is interpreted as her being on the warpath but is actually just her being nostalgic.
Kurtis Krammovitch: a banned(to the public) book about the practices of the Hedgefolks, sparking arguments about whatever he is reading it to better infiltrating them or whatever he is secretly a Hedgefolk infiltrating the Grey College.

Lady Magister Grey: The anatomy book on Hobgoblins bodies she published, with the understanding that if she have to appear in public them she might as well fuck with whatever latest Hobogoblin assassin had been sent after her.
 
It's high, yes, but Egrimm supposedly had the charm to corrupt most of a college in canon. I would have expected at least heroic levels of diplomacy.

Though I suppose he could have ahead time to grow before then, he's just barely a Lord Magister by this point. And maybe focused on different things if he isn't evil.
Not really. His canon rise to power came through guile, murder and his truly brilliant grasp of magic. He didn't need to be super diplomatic, he painted himself as a hero, the only one who could save the Light Order from the dire straits it was in.

Also, he didn't corrupt any members of the College. No one left with him when he escaped Altdorf, save Baudros. He was ultimately a liar, not a charmer.
 
You saying Wizard Chic is going to make a comeback among the (eventual) kids of the Undumgi? Just as Eike is trying to outfit her private laboratory, where she can squirrel personal projects away from Mathilde's endless, earnest meddling helpful oversight?
 
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You saying Wizard Chic is going to make a comeback among the (eventual) kids of the Undumgi? Just as Eike is trying to outfit her private laboratory, where she can squirrel personal projects away from Mathilde's endless, earnest meddling helpful oversight?
Admittedly, with the resources Eike will have in the EIC, I would not bet on her being as stymied by Wizard Chic.

She'd be at the level were she could have a private commission from a glassblower instead of just trying to buy what's in stock.
 
Well, for this particular instance, I was simply picturing...

Head Librarian Mathilde: "Where are all the books?"
EIC Clerk: "Ma'am, I'm sorry, but apparently the titles you wanted are all the rage with the nobility youths now, so there's a massive waiting list."
Head Librarian Mathilde: "..."
 
She'd be at the level were she could have a private commission from a glassblower instead of just trying to buy what's in stock.
Yes, though I think I recall that also was a blocked option for us, in that their order books were already jammed full of commissions.
...Though I guess not many could or would pay Eonir prices.
 
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So as someone that thinks its time to bite the bullet and get at least one of the damaged Battle magics in the near future (if we survive)

Because way stone is turning into mini-arc quest and doesn't look to be stoping if all the clues we are seeing are any tell.

what do people think?

The Penumbral Pendulum or Pit of Shades?

Pit is stronger, but Pendulum might be a bit, bit, easier to learn and cast.
 
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So as someone that thinks its time to bite the bullet and get at least one of the damaged Battle magics in the near future (if we survive)

what do people think?

The Penumbral Pendulum or Pit of Shades?

Pit is stronger, but Pendulum might be a bit, bit, easier to learn and cast.

I much prefer the Pendulum for Mathilde - she's all about edge cases and the edge of a sword, so it's significantly more thematically congruent.

Plus there's my long-term plan to make Mathilde a sick-ass anime character:

Since the Ulgu sword metaphor can likely be applied to the liminal space that Penumbral Pendulum draws on, and since the Rune of the Unknown itself likely keys into the *dwarven* understanding of liminal spaces, I could see Mathilde eventually develop her own variation of Penumbral Pendulum that's particularly effective or safe when used with Branulhune.

Personally, when it comes to "blade" thematics, one of my ideas I had floating around in case I ever did a far-future!Mathilde omake was that Mathilde might get a personal mastery of Penumbral Pendulum that uses Branulhune and its connection to the liminal space it disappears to, plus Mathilde's long-time association with the weapon, plus the thematic resonance of a sword being used to cut while being a symbol of Ulgu.

The end result would be a Penumbral Pendulum that was *weaker* than the OG version in raw power... but the cutting plane would follow Mathilde's sword slash, as opposed to being a straight vertical line.
 
Because way stone is turning into mini-arc quest and doesn't look to be stoping if all the clues we are seeing are any tell.
How d'you figure? We're most (or all depending on whose list you use) of the way through our initial slate of planned recruitments, after which I imagine focus will shift substantially toward the actual research side of things.
 
I guess that depends on whether the research leans more on the theoretical or practical side, and how much additional favor trading we need to pull to recruit more factions/keep existing factions from jumping ship due to tensions from bad diplo rolls.

How much time we spend holed up in a lab or conference room as opposed to adventuring in the field is still up in the air.
 
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Given that learning existing Battlemagics has high (crit?) roll requirements (and the initial miscast chance) that could require more than one action to complete, I think I'd rather spend the... three? actions (per RoW, with the refinement step I think) on inventing a sweet new Misty-Cloudy Battlemagic that can leverage our Staff of Mistery.
 
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