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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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Boris must survive at all costs, he's far too important to the cause of the ice witches and the future diplomacy with the Empire to die.
 
Codex said:
Awesome imagery. Does Mathilde even need to cast Rite of Way though? It's for smoothing terrain, and Shadowsteed ignores terrain. Frostfiends also fly (technically hover), so Liljiana also ignored terrain. Am I missing something?
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This part of Kislev is pretty hilly, and Rite of Way smooths out the ups and downs of that in a way that'd be unnecessary for good riders but would be a big help for a merely okay rider doing a fifty mile shadowsteed sprint.
 
[X] Witch Council

Mathilde surreptitiously sneaking her way into integrating with Kislevite culture by assuming the mantle of a witch.

Now it's time to show this warhost what a council of Four Witches can do.

And Johann.
 
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"Yo, Thorek, I need your help! I have some secret magical knowledge that could help the project!"
"Human knowledge? Bah. Our ancestors didn't need no..."
"No, see, this is actually built upon vampire knowledge of Dhar! I mean say what you will about Nagash, the guy really knew his stuff when it came to Dhar. And you could make far better use of the knowledge than I could, since you're not bound by the same oaths!"
"...so you want me to help you break your oaths. By using dark magic."
"I mean, I personally don't feel like this would be breaking my oaths. But don't tell anyone I told you any of this, my superiors will definitely consider this a violation of my oaths, and they will definitely have me executed for this."
"..."
"So is that a yes? I feel like this is a yes."
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"After all the time I have spent punching necromancers and orc shamans and chaos wizards in the dick, I have gleaned these insights. They're too dangerous to commit to mere paper because of how easily they can be misused. I will of course teach them to trusted worthy individuals, but I want a trusted backup means of retaining the knowledge in case we all die."
 
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Witch Council might also give us enough free time to talk shop with the Ice Witches, and maybe get an answer to the leyline situation.

[X] Witch Council
 
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[X] Witch Council

Boney said:
you turn back to Ljiljana and instead find what looks something like a pure white Vargheist,
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I hope this is the end of conversation about making shadowhorse items for Ice Witches. We have a glut of projects already.

Also I want to make Apparation Binding action already.
 
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Boney said:
This part of Kislev is pretty hilly, and Rite of Way smooths out the ups and downs of that in a way that'd be unnecessary for good riders but would be a big help for a merely okay rider doing a fifty mile shadowsteed sprint.
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So, Lilijana flexes by casting a highly complex spell for her own ease of travel. Mathilde flexes back by casting Battle Magic to make Liljana's apprentice's ride more comfortable…
 
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Wait a second, the succession goes Kattarin the Bloody -> Pavel, the son that killed her -> Old Vlad the Dad -> Boris, but Vlad claimed to have seen what pale woman in charge looked like right? That means he must have been at least reasonably old when his grandmother the vampire died right?

So youngest he could have been to claim some measure of 'seeing it' let's say 10 years old in 2465 when the vampire was killed, that would put his father Pavel in probably his thirties or forties but Kattarin herself would at that point he about 120 years old... which means Kattarin gave birth to Pavel when she was in her seventies or eighties.

That does not sound very natural to me....

Methinks Vlad the Dad is about one quarter vampire, we do after all have some evidence that Lahmians can birth children naturally even after they have been turned.

@Boney I realize we cannot ask out hosts if they have bloodsucker heritage, but as far as Mathilde knows when was Pavel born? I ask because that is the weak point here, he could technically have been seventy odd years old himself when he sired his heir which would put him just in range to be born to a pre-vampire Kattarin in her late thirties or early forties.
 
Really thinking about it Apparation binding is looking like more and more necessery. Because I am jealous as hell of Elves that seem to have bound uncountable number of spirits to themselves. I want some of that.
 
On one hand, I kind of feel bad for Johann being left out of all the decisions and actions being done here, but he's really got no relevant skills to all of this pre-battle preparation and any diplomacy skills he has are rendered largely irrelevant.

On the other hand, considering the last stopoff we had in Gerdouen and the way those Ungols were looking at him in Vitevo, I'm willing to bet he's probably sharing a bed with an Ungol or something. I think Johann having the time of his life while Mathilde is zooming across the country is a pretty funny image.
 
Artemis1992 said:
Not really.

It's like saying the Wizards of the Empire don't need better mobility because Dragomas can casually turn into a dragon.

Sure he doesn't need a mount, but that doesn't help all Magisters who can't do his trick.
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Oh for fucks sake, really.

There is nothing that can be said that will convince people otherwise isn't there. Decition is made rest is just justifiying it.

Whatever, I am never voting for any plans that have that. Never.
 
Alratan said:
So, Lilijana flexes by casting a highly complex spell for her own ease of travel. Mathilde flexes back by casting Battle Magic to make Liljana's ride more comfortable…
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Ljiljana's former apprentice, but yes. Mathilde built a plan based on the mental image of a bunch of rickety old ladies on horseback and she's not going to not do it just because the rickety old lady turned into a giant snow bat and the only other witch is younger than her.

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Wait a second, the succession goes Kattarin the Bloody -> Pavel, the son that killed her -> Old Vlad the Dad -> Boris, but Vlad claimed to have seen what pale woman in charge looked like right? That means he must have been at least reasonably old when his grandmother the vampire died right?

So youngest he could have been to claim some measure of 'seeing it' let's say 10 years old in 2465 when the vampire was killed, that would put his father Pavel in probably his thirties or forties but Kattarin herself would at that point he about 120 years old... which means Kattarin gave birth to Pavel when she was in her seventies or eighties.

That does not sound very natural to me....

Methinks Vlad the Dad is about one quarter vampire, we do after all have some evidence that Lahmians can birth children naturally even after they have been turned.

@Boney I realize we cannot ask out hosts if they have bloodsucker heritage, but as far as mathilde knows when was Pavel born? I ask because that is the weak point here, he could technically have been seventy odd years old himself when he sired his heir which would put him just in range to be born to a pre-vampire Kattarin in her late thirties or early forties.
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Canon facts: Kattarin ruled from 2309 to 2465. Pavel was her son. Pavel was actively involved with her being overthrown.

Despite the wiki trying to skim past that with 'oh she must have given birth to him before she was turned into a vampire', there is no way to make those numbers work with an entirely human Pavel. Even if Kattarin was crowned as a teenager and had Pavel in her fifties and then became a vampire, Pavel would be over 110 by the time Kattarin was overthrown.
 
DragonParadox said:
Wait a second, the succession goes Kattarin the Bloody -> Pavel, the son that killed her -> Old Vlad the Dad -> Boris, but Vlad claimed to have seen what pale woman in charge looked like right? That means he must have been at least reasonably old when his grandmother the vampire died right?

So youngest he could have been to claim some measure of 'seeing it' let's say 10 years old in 2465 when the vampire was killed, that would put his father Pavel in probably his thirties or forties but Kattarin herself would at that point he about 120 years old... which means Kattarin gave birth to Pavel when she was in her seventies or eighties.

That does not sound very natural to me....

Methinks Vlad the Dad is about one quarter vampire, we do after all have some evidence that Lahmians can birth children naturally even after they have been turned.

@Boney I realize we cannot ask out hosts if they have bloodsucker heritage, but as far as Mathilde knows when was Pavel born? I ask because that is the weak point here, he could technically have been seventy odd years old himself when he sired his heir which would put him just in range to be born to a pre-vampire Kattarin in her late thirties or early forties.
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I think it's a bit of an open question how Pavel was born in universe:
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You nod in understanding. Directly after Tzar Alexis who fought in the Great War Against Chaos was Tzarina Kattarin the Bloody, who reigned for a century and a half before being staked, frozen, and supplanted by her son, who proved quite adept at dodging questions about how someone who had been a Vampire for at least a century could have a living human son, and also provided the inspiration for the Tsarevich Pavel Society. After all that, a merely incompetent Tzar must be quite refreshing
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Boney said:
Ljiljana's former apprentice, but yes. Mathilde built a plan based on the mental image of a bunch of rickety old ladies on horseback and she's not going to not do it just because the rickety old lady turned into a giant snow bat and the only other witch is younger than her.
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I find this funny, because of the four Ice Witches Mathilde knows, only one of those Ice Witches was a rickety old lady. I think it says something about how much of an impression Liljiana made on her. To Mathilde, Liljiana is probably the exemplar of an Ice Witch, perhaps even subconciously.
 
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