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Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest

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Lizardmen have working brains and a host of enemies, so as long as they believe us trustworthy they would award standing for deeds done thanks to the Protector. No shortage of enemies to slay, problems to solve, and so on and so forth. There's the hypothetical that aid can be contextualized as knowledgeable and active furtherance of Lizardmen religious objectives thanks to Coin trickery, but all that's needed for a working relationship is trust, mutual benefit, and shared goals.
 
It's my party, I'll proofread Divided Loyalties if I want to.

Finished the KD expedition. What a whirlwind of excitement that was.

KD Expedition: The Great Steppes
Boney said:
keep tabs of their mental states
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Either "tabs" -> "track" or "of" -> "on"

KD Expedition: Karag Dum
Boney said:
Speed and intimidation is how
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is -> are
Boney said:
"Today, tea, Untamed Shaman of the Dolgan Tribes" you reply
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Tribes -> Tribes,
Boney said:
dripping with mucous
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mucous -> mucus (mucous is the adjective, mucus the noun)
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With sickened curiousity
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curiousity -> curiosity
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is lead by someone
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lead -> led

KD Expedition: Part Sixteen
Boney said:
Smoke from fires from looks like
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from looks like -> from what looks like

KD Expedition: Part Seventeen
Boney said:
more exposure to fel energies
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I think "fel" should be "fell" -- I've only encountered "fel" with this meaning in the context of Warcraft

KD Expedition: Part Eighteen
Boney said:
Apart from the Icebreaker-lead convoys
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lead -> led

KD Expedition: The Great Steppes (again)
Boney said:
raising quests about
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quests -> questions

KD Expedition: Part Twenty-One
Boney said:
More concentration and a handful of whispered syllables sees the billowing gas
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sees -> see
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bewildering whisps of fog
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whisps -> wisps

KD Expedition: An Unnamed Mountain Range
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you give up on your attempts to winkle information out of her after you get nothing but Gospodarinyi expletives out of her
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Repetition of "out of her"
Boney said:
The path through these unnamed mountains is a rough one, as the path taken owes everything to time and gravity and nothing at all to deliberate artifice.
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Repetition of a turn of phrase you used a few updates ago, unsure if you want to change it but figured I'd flag it
Boney said:
It's not known what type of creatures of beings might call these mountains home, but the ground is likely to be unreliable as it would be the result of gravity and time rather than deliberate artifice.
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KD Expedition: Black Blood Pass
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There's a moment of hesitation before he obeys, glancing around the room and then jumping as the door swings shut behind you.
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Shouldn't this be behind him, if he just entered the room?
Boney said:
While I was growing my callouses in Stirland
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callouses -> calluses

KD Expedition: The Tobol
Boney said:
"I have heard of some worshipping Kurnous in Talabecland." you concede.
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Talabecland. -> Talabecland,
 
I have also finished my reread, but this time of the whole quest. Boy was it a doozy. I have a dozen post ideas but they're all high effort and I'm tired so I'll save em for later, but for now I gotta say this:
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"Not for lack of trying on my part. If there's something that needs to become official, then the Ironbrows of Karak Azul would argue that it should fall to them, while the Thungnissons of Karaz-a-Karak would undoubtedly do the same. The Redbeards of Barak Varr might end up a compromise candidate. But whoever it is, I assume it wouldn't help to have a suspicious Runesmith looking over your shoulder and glaring at the Elves."
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The Barak Varr Runesmiths being named Redbeards at the same time that the Karak Vlag Rangers (formerly of Kadrin) are also named Redbeards sucks. I'm pretty sure Boney's working with canon info here, but it's even worse than the Gurnisson/Gunnarson/Gunnison thing I've been bungling up in my head. I love Dwarfs but man are they not making it easy to distinguish between some of them.
 
Codex said:
I'm pretty sure Boney's working with canon info here, but it's even worse than the Gurnisson/Gunnarson/Gunnison thing I've been bungling up in my head.
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On the bright (?) side, Gotrek is dead and the only canon Gunnarsson I'm aware of is Red Brokk*, so you really only need to remember the Gunnisons.

*Boney has only included one more, the Dwarf that laid out how the Border Princess job would work
 
Mopman43 said:
On the bright (?) side, Gotrek is dead and the only canon Gunnarsson I'm aware of is Red Brokk*, so you really only need to remember the Gunnisons.

*Boney has only included one more, the Dwarf that laid out how the Border Princess job would work
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Yes, I was about to point out that we did meet one, which is why I have it in my notes. They seem to be a prestigous Barak Varr clan, so if we ever get more deeply involved I'd expect some of them to turn up.

Red Brokk for example made a custom Dreadnought. That's the kind of thing that marks you as legendary.
 
Codex said:
Yes, I was about to point out that we did meet one, which is why I have it in my notes. They seem to be a prestigous Barak Varr clan, so if we ever get more deeply involved I'd expect some of them to turn up.

Red Brokk for example made a custom Dreadnought. That's the kind of thing that marks you as legendary.
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Based on some of Boney's earlier comments, it's also likely to be a non-canon feat. Dreadnoughts are the things that cap off particularly great reigns, not something that a non-King should ever be able to do.
 
Codex said:
The Barak Varr Runesmiths being named Redbeards at the same time that the Karak Vlag Rangers (formerly of Kadrin) are also named Redbeards sucks. I'm pretty sure Boney's working with canon info here, but it's even worse than the Gurnisson/Gunnarson/Gunnison thing I've been bungling up in my head. I love Dwarfs but man are they not making it easy to distinguish between some of them
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We should be grateful that at least they're not all named Smith, like half those unimaginative umgi (who often don't even do any smithing, hmph!).
 
Codex said:
The Barak Varr Runesmiths being named Redbeards at the same time that the Karak Vlag Rangers (formerly of Kadrin) are also named Redbeards sucks. I'm pretty sure Boney's working with canon info here, but it's even worse than the Gurnisson/Gunnarson/Gunnison thing I've been bungling up in my head. I love Dwarfs but man are they not making it easy to distinguish between some of them.
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If you'd like to go down a rabbit hole...
If memory serves, Europe during the middle ages had an issue where surnames arose as a solution to a process related to this, wherein Italy for example, was down to less than 200 total names. People started using place of birth / residence / profession as a secondary identifier to differentiate all the people running around with the same name, or a name like 'Olaf son of Olaf'. Hence names like Leonardo di ser Piero da Vinci, literally Leonardo of Sir Piero (his Father) of Vinci (the nearest relevant settlement to his place of birth). So, I'm not terribly surprised that the ancestor obsessed Dwarves might have a similar problem.
 
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HungryHamadryad said:
Yes, hello - the political struggle between mainstream Lizardman Society and the followers of the Cult of Sotek would like a word.
I think it's a telling window into a civilization which much like the Dwarves is not nearly as monolithic as it appears.
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The same cult of Sotek that itself only exists because there was a old one plaque saying under a particular situation, Sotek will save your ass.

As far as we can tell, Sotek is itself still part of the Plan. They just dont have access to all of the plaques anymore so the Slann didnt know
Sotek was part of it.
 
Daedwartin said:
The same cult of Sotek that itself only exists because there was a old one plaque saying under a particular situation, Sotek will save your ass.

As far as we can tell, Sotek is itself still part of the Plan. They just dont have access to all of the plaques anymore so the Slann didnt know
Sotek was part of it.
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One plaque that's never been seen by anyone other than Tehenhauin.

Far as I'm aware, the opinion of the Slann on the matter is something along the lines of "seems bullshit, but we can't exactly deny the results".
 
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Nerdasaurus Rex said:
Now I'm wondering if you could forge plaques to give the lizardmen fake instructions.
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The problem with this, aside from the obvious consequences of getting caught with fake instructions, is that there's no way to know for sure that the instruction you want is what the lizardmen will get out of it. For example, you could give them a plaque that says "give me a ship" and it's possible that instead of a sailing vessel you'll instead receive another plaque full of Kroq'garxMazdamundi fanfiction.
 
NuclearConsensus said:
The problem with this, aside from the obvious consequences of getting caught with fake instructions, is that there's no way to know for sure that the instruction you want is what the lizardmen will get out of it. For example, you could give them a plaque that says "give me a ship" and it's possible that instead of a sailing vessel you'll instead receive another plaque full of Kroq'garxMazdamundi fanfiction.
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Ah of course, so it's like a gatcha game.
 
Jyn Ryvia said:
helping them is not something they would think well of you for, they would just think you're playing your role in 'The Plan', its not something to be rewarded for, your just doing your job.
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Lizardmen are straight up willing to hire and pay mercenaries. This frequently turns into more conflict as the mercenaries want gold (which the lizardmen are completely unwilling to provide because it has information about the great plan on it) instead of pearls, but the idea that helping them will only ever get "you were just doing your job as part of The Plan" is in fact objectively untrue.
 
reignonyrparade said:
Lizardmen are straight up willing to hire and pay mercenaries. This frequently turns into more conflict as the mercenaries want gold (which the lizardmen are completely unwilling to provide because it has information about the great plan on it) instead of pearls, but the idea that helping them will only ever get "you were just doing your job as part of The Plan" is in fact objectively untrue.
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Do the lizardmen not have non-plaque gold they could use? Or ever think to trade pearls for imperial gold they can use to pay mercs?
 
So I'm reading Heirs of Sigmar, which I should have done a while ago tbh, and it both clears things up and confuses me. At least I got my confusion on the Drakwald cleared up.

Apparently Mandred von Zelt did decree that the Drakwald would cease to be a province and be absorbed by Middenland and Nordland immediately after his reign started because of the incompetence of the Drakwald Emperors, but his decree did not pass until 300 years later because the Elector Counts don't want the Emperor to have the unilateral power to dissolve provinces by setting precedent, so there were disputes over it. And the heir to the province of Drakwald was assassinated so the position was left vacant for 300 years while all the Elector Counts bickered with each other and the villages in the province were being destroyed by Beastmen. Age of Three Emperors didn't help with this resolution.

It seems like the Drakwald got hit by a dozen different blows from every direction. Incompetent rulers, corruption, skaven, plague, beastmen, chaos, Elves and bureaucracy.

As a side note, the Empire's timeline is hilarious. You're reading through it and there's chaos in the Empire as everyone is rebelling and fighting and disputing against each other and Marienburg is getting sacked as a side note regardless of the time period. I thought that place was defencable, but it was overwhelmed four separate times.
 
Hydroplatypus said:
Do the lizardmen not have non-plaque gold they could use? Or ever think to trade pearls for imperial gold they can use to pay mercs?
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Basically everyone who comes to the new world does it on the basis of wild tales of lizardman gold so lizardman gold is what everyone's got eyes for. On that basis I also don't think basically anyone is shipping gold BACK to Lustria for trade to be opened up even if the Lizardmen did think of that.

If anyone did have that much gold in the area I suspect the Lizardmen would probably assume it was melted down Lizardman Plaques anyway, and not without reason.
 
Codex said:
As a side note, the Empire's timeline is hilarious. You're reading through it and there's chaos in the Empire as everyone is rebelling and fighting and disputing against each other and Marienburg is getting sacked as a side note regardless of the time period. I thought that place was defencable, but it was overwhelmed four separate times.
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Teclis, looking at this eternally on fire disaster of a nation: I'm going to give these people chiselhands. That'll make everything better.
 
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