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Nah, dragomas beat his ass effortlessly. Losing an excellent subordinate is nothing compared to that.likely resulted in him losing even more prestige than being slapped down by Dragomas did to him.
Nah, dragomas beat his ass effortlessly. Losing an excellent subordinate is nothing compared to that.likely resulted in him losing even more prestige than being slapped down by Dragomas did to him.
I think you misunderstood, I meant that we compounded on it, rather than surpassed it. Maybe it was my fault for unclear wording.Nah, dragomas beat his ass effortlessly. Losing an excellent subordinate is nothing compared to that.
Nah, dragomas beat his ass effortlessly. Losing an excellent subordinate is nothing compared to that.
I think Arburg willingly stepped into the ring to give a good show and to test her skills against Dragomas out of deep respect. She's one of the "Battle Magic Graduates" like Gehenna, and mentioned to be new so this is her first Duel in the Obsidian Hall. A good way to show off Dragomas' supremacy is to present a good fight and do her best to impress everyone looking while also helping shore up the position of one who has given so much to the Battle Wizards and possibly allowed her to hit LM.I think Alric would have still been ok if it wasn't for the fact that on of the other, much younger, fighters didn't do so well. (The Nordland navy Jade… and Jesus I just realised how bad that could have been if she won.)
it's one thing to lose to the super dragon, it's another that that one of the baby ladies and lords did a lot better.
Yes, but also a way to see how you compare to the boss. All wizards are competitive, to some extentI think Arburg willingly stepped into the ring to give a good show and to test her skills against Dragomas out of deep respect. She's one of the "Battle Magic Graduates" like Gehenna, and mentioned to be new so this is her first Duel in the Obsidian Hall. A good way to show off Dragomas' supremacy is to present a good fight and do her best to impress everyone looking while also helping shore up the position of one who has given so much to the Battle Wizards and possibly allowed her to hit LM.
Yes, but also a way to see how you compare to the boss. All wizards are competitive, to some extent
I think that's going to deep into it, you can respect someone and still want to beat them.I think Arburg willingly stepped into the ring to give a good show and to test her skills against Dragomas out of deep respect. She's one of the "Battle Magic Graduates" like Gehenna, and mentioned to be new so this is her first Duel in the Obsidian Hall. A good way to show off Dragomas' supremacy is to present a good fight and do her best to impress everyone looking while also helping shore up the position of one who has given so much to the Battle Wizards and possibly allowed her to hit LM.
Semantics, but mostly correct. There are also perpetuals who would like to become journeymen but can't due to other reasons, such as Nordlander, who chose to become perpetual instead of blowing herself up.Well all journeymen and above. I think you can make the case that those without that ambition become perpetuals and are content.
I don't think they meant the Jade threw the fight. They just didn't go into it expecting to win, and made the choice on the basis of an expected loss.I think that's going to deep into it, you can respect someone and still want to beat them.
I think she's smart enough to know that she could not have been a better Matriarch than Dragomas, and that she likely couldn't beat a goddamn dragon. I'm certain she tried her best and wondered how far she could get, but if she seriously expected to win and seriously believed that she would be a better leader than Dragomas, then I'd have serious doubts about her ability to assess things.I don't think they meant the Jade threw the fight. They just didn't go into it expecting to win, and made the choice on the basis of an expected loss.
Since I've yet to work it into an update proper:
Nordland has a concern or two, yes.
It's not like they have no room for expansion- they've still got plenty of forest in the bit they control that's almost certainly full of gribblies instead of humans- but it's certainly going to be much harder. And less profitable, given they don't have any prospecting trees to work with.You know, with the chiselhands human racial trait having ascended to a thread meme at this point, I do hope that some time in the future, maybe a few years down the line, another confused character asks Mathilde to explain the elves view on human magic and she uses this exact example.
Scratch that, I hope it goes into the book on Eonir diplomacy. It's wonderful.
But why do the Nordlanders not simply dig down? Grumblegrumble /s
It's not like they have no room for expansion- they've still got plenty of forest in the bit they control that's almost certainly full of gribblies instead of humans- but it's certainly going to be much harder. And less profitable, given they don't have any prospecting trees to work with.
But that forest doesn't have a local Faniour population which has a random chance of rousing the Toriour population to raze your village to the ground.And that forest hasn't been helpfully pre-cleared of all the gribblies by a local Faniour population.
that wasn't an issue until it was.But that forest doesn't have a local Faniour population which has a random chance of rousing the Toriour population to raze your village to the ground.
The local Faniour population can barely rouse the Toriour when there's a war happening in their woods. When those villages were set to be razed, the Ulricans were the ones sent to do it. I have doubts about how much the Toriour actually care that the forests are being encroached upon when they have their City.But that forest doesn't have a local Faniour population which has a random chance of rousing the Toriour population to raze your village to the ground.
The local Faniour population can barely rouse the Toriour when there's a war happening in their woods. When those villages were set to be razed, the Ulricans were the ones sent to do it. I have doubts about how much the Toriour actually care that the forests are being encroached upon when they have their City.
I mean, specific moral merits of the conflicts aside, Mathilde herself has on a few occasions advocated the use of short lived, fecund humans to bear the brunt of casualties in conflicts, instead of a longer lived, slower to reproduce elder race.When those villages were set to be razed, the Ulricans were the ones sent to do it.
I don't think the Toriour expected the villagers to put up any sort of actual resistance, they just wanted to test the loyalty of their new allies and how far they were willing to go while cementing the relationship in blood, by proving they're not like the Nordlanders.I mean, specific moral merits of the conflicts aside, Mathilde herself has on a few occasions advocated the use of short lived, fecund humans to bear the brunt of casualties in conflicts, instead of a longer lived, slower to reproduce elder race.
I think that's the thread.I mean, specific moral merits of the conflicts aside, Mathilde herself has on a few occasions advocated the use of short lived, fecund humans to bear the brunt of casualties in conflicts, instead of a longer lived, slower to reproduce elder race.
It's definitely come up for consideration, as far back as Karagril at least.I think that's the thread.
I'm not sure mathy has ever said or thought that.
You're still not quite comfortable with weighing human lives against Dwarven ones, but their contribution would prevent total deaths and how did one measure that against the very small but admittedly real chance of a mercenary's tall tale catching on and fracturing the veil of secrecy the Skaven think they have?
The difference is that was a collaborative effort where Dwarves and humans fought side by side. The assumption is that the Ulricans went there alone, because if they had been fighting side by side with Elves they definitely wouldn't have looked at all 10k villagers leaving with the Ulricans and go "oh all right, safe travels".It's definitely come up for consideration, as far back as Karagril at least.