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Thanks for the answer @Boney. I also had one niggling question regarding Elven magical traditions after reading the update:

You mentioned before that Elves have their own Mono-Wind traditions like the Mist Mages, Shadow Warriors, etc.
How do those Elves avoid "over-specializing" or gaining Arcane Marks like the Magic Colleges do, in that case? Asarnil believed humans were incapable of moderating themselves, but wouldn't that also apply to Elven mono-wind mages?
We don't know that they're "mono-wind" per se. We just know they specialise. Boney also mentioned that Arcane Marks are seen as tragedies, and they are never embraced. These Shadow Warriors and Mist Mages might have specialties but I bet they can do a couple cantrips in most Winds as well.
 
I find it very hard to believe we could get associates who trust us as much as Johann, Max and the Ducklings without putting a lot of effort in (Panoramia is included too, but she's more than just an associate).
I pretty sure that others from Abelhelm's old council are just as willing to trust us. Admittedly, some (Anton, Wilhelmina, Kasamir) more than others, at this point, since I think Mathilde more or less broke contact with Gustav and Schultz after she was fired.
 
Thanks for the answer @Boney. I also had one niggling question regarding Elven magical traditions after reading the update:

You mentioned before that Elves have their own Mono-Wind traditions like the Mist Mages, Shadow Warriors, etc.
How do those Elves avoid "over-specializing" or gaining Arcane Marks like the Magic Colleges do, in that case? Asarnil believed humans were incapable of moderating themselves, but wouldn't that also apply to Elven mono-wind mages?

They wouldn't understand the question. It's like asking a blacksmith "how do you avoid your hands turning into hammers because you use a hammer all the time". Whether the underlying difference is cultural or physiological or metaphysical or something else is an open question.
 
I pretty sure that others from Abelhelm's old council are just as willing to trust us. Admittedly, some (Anton, Wilhelmina, Kasamir) more than others, at this point, since I think Mathilde more or less broke contact with Gustav and Schultz after she was fired.
Possibly, but I was more aiming towards magical associates. Should have specified.

If we're talking non magical we can start adding quite a few Dwarfs to that list, most notably Belegar.
 
They wouldn't understand the question. It's like asking a blacksmith "how do you avoid your hands turning into hammers because you use a hammer all the time". Whether the underlying difference is cultural or physiological or metaphysical or something else is an open question.
The mages coming along with Teclis must've thought "What the hell are you teaching these poor people?". The necessities of war are cruel, but it's even worse because they're so happy with their chiselhands.
 
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Speaking of Egrimm in a positive light... I wonder what he thinks of Mathilde right now? I mean, from his perspective we pulled him into a trip into the Chaos wastes, and while there got along well enough that he opened up a bit about his woes with his boss and he took our word on one of his choir he had Chaos concerns about. Then we all came home, went our separate ways, started writing papers, and didn't talk again.

...until suddenly, out of the blue, Egrimm gets told he's been reassigned to some top-secret project under the Lady Magister he's not spoken to for six months. And when he gets here Mathilde tells him they're basically trying to bluff an entire elven polity into believing they have valuable information on one of the most important magical devices in the world, then shoves a random golden arm in his face and tells him they're going to be researching it together.

I thought Egrimm felt a bit more stand-offish and guarded in this update than he had been on the expedition, but looking at this sequence of events I can see why. I wouldn't be surprised if his entire internal monologue throughout that update was variations on the words 'what?', 'what.', and 'WHAT?'
I think it's a combo of that and being miffed at Yet Another Higher Up trampling over his agency. We kinda uh forgot to ask him what he wanted and made the assumption he'd be happy to join. I mean I think he is, but its still one of those things that generally polite to at least talk to someone about. Hence my "whoops" earlier.
Hopefully during the study of the golden bauble we can at least communicate that our meddling came from a place of sympathy and a desire to free him from a frustrating situation apologise for the abrupt, frustratingly familiar and non-consultative manner in which it all happened. Chances are if Alric found out what was happening, he'd have been sequestered elsewhere before Mira could prise him loose.
Members can pursue their own projects at WEB-MAT, too, right?
 
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"Yes, and he's been working with me in Eight Peaks right from the start, back when he was a Journeyman." She nods, but offers no further comment. "The third is Magister Egrimm van Horstmann, of the Light Order."

She looks directly at you for the first time in the conversation. "The Light Order is taking an interest?"

"Just Egrimm," you correct.

She gives you a long, searching look. As focused as she is on her own research, one doesn't become a Lady Magister or the High Wizard of Middenheim by being ignorant of politics. But in the end she doesn't ask any of the questions she might have. "Just Egrimm, then," she says. "Very well. I'll have someone prepare rooms for their arrival, and I'll have word sent when they arrive. The Graf has birds that can carry messages to their city."
"If that woman says jump, I don't ask questions, I jump. Especially considering..." He looks sideways at Johann and Maximillian. "Well. Considering."
I like how despite not technically wanting to be involved in the internal Light Order politics, Mathilde accidentally made herself into a major piece in that whole charade. Like, look at it from an outside perspective. Alric fucks up severely by losing to Dragomas at the hands of a Moderately Complicated spell, then he suddenly loses his best and most loyal subordinate to some sort of project under the youngest Lady Magister in the Colleges at the moment. One could easily assume that Mira and Mathilde collaborated with each other, with Mira taking advantage of Alric's fall from grace to extract Egrimm from under Alric's grasp and Mathilde accepting him because he's a valuable asset, resulting in her being in "Mira's pocket" so to speak.

Obviously, this isn't exactly what it is, but from one perspective someone could assume that to be the case. I would not be surprised if Mira is currently sitting as Magister Matriarch of the Light College or at least is playing for it. Whether we like it or not, we really involved ourselves in that political quagmire.
 
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I don't know, I guess I'm just not comfortable with the idea that Nordland deserves what the Eonir did to their people.
What the Eonir did to enforce their ownership is a completely different matter than the legitimacy of their ownership. My point is that it is one thing to say "oh it was long ago anyone who was actually around to own that land was long dead so the people who did nothing beyond be born in the wrong village have more claim" when the original owners are in fact long dead. It is quite another to say "yes you personally got kicked off your land but [for the sake of a comparable human timescale situation] that was grandpa that did it so the grandkids have to be allowed to stay."
 
I like how despite not technically wanting to be involved in the internal Light Order politics, Mathilde accidentally made herself into a major piece in that whole charade. Like, look at it from an outside perspective, Alric fucks up severely by losing to Dragomas at the hands of a Moderately Complicated spell, then he suddenly loses his best and most loyal subordinate to some sort of project under the youngest Lady Magister in the Colleges at the moment. One could easily assume that Mira and Mathilde collaborated with each other, with Mira taking advantage of Alric's fall from grace to extract Egrimm from under Alric's grasp and Mathilde accepting him because he's a valuable asset, resulting in her being in "Mira's pocket" so to speak.

Obviously, this isn't exactly what it is, but from one perspective someone could assume that to be the case. I would not be surprised if Mira is currently sitting as Magister Matriarch of the Light College or at least is playing for it. Whether we like it or not, we really involved ourselves in that political quagmire.
Time to do what Mathilde does best! Smile, and act like that was the plan all along.
 
We really need to find out more about Mira. All we really know is that she's 6 feet tall, glowing, intimidating, ambitious and powerful. Sucks we don't have a College Rumour Mill. Don't even know how we could set that up.

Of the many advantages and powers Mathilde has that surpass her master's abiltiies, she probably doesn't match to 1% of his info network. I don't think that man even gave Mathilde any Spymaster lessons, just spying lessons. We really need to expand our network into the Colleges at some point.
 
"Just on the table will be fine," you say with a wave, resisting the desire to smile at Egrimm's searching look. He'd been waiting impatiently in the Guild's lobby ever since he arrived in Middenheim, so for him to be told he had a meeting inside it by one of the Guild's Perpetuals without ever seeing you enter must have given him a start.
Minor point, but I confess I didn't get this bit.
Do we think this is simply Mathilde stealthing past Egrimm and his Hysh sight in the lobby, or some other thing?
We really need to find out more about Mira. All we really know is that she's 6 feet tall, glowing, intimidating, ambitious and powerful. Sucks we don't have a College Rumour Mill. Don't even know how we could set that up.

Of the many advantages and powers Mathilde has that surpass her master's abiltiies, she probably doesn't match to 1% of his info network. I don't think that man even gave Mathilde any Spymaster lessons, just spying lessons. We really need to expand our network into the Colleges at some point.
Heh. Maybe we recruit a semi-retired Grey Magister for their Collegiate contacts. And knowledge of Beastmen and their Herdstones(?)
 
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I like how despite not technically wanting to be involved in the internal Light Order politics, Mathilde accidentally made herself into a major piece in that whole charade. Like, look at it from an outside perspective. Alric fucks up severely by losing to Dragomas at the hands of a Moderately Complicated spell, then he suddenly loses his best and most loyal subordinate to some sort of project under the youngest Lady Magister in the Colleges at the moment. One could easily assume that Mira and Mathilde collaborated with each other, with Mira taking advantage of Alric's fall from grace to extract Egrimm from under Alric's grasp and Mathilde accepting him because he's a valuable asset, resulting in her being in "Mira's pocket" so to speak.

Obviously, this isn't exactly what it is, but from one perspective someone could assume that to be the case. I would not be surprised if Mira is currently sitting as Magister Matriarch of the Light College or at least is playing for it. Whether we like it or not, we really involved ourselves in that political quagmire.

It looks a lot like Dragomas and Algard wanted to slap down Alric and put Mira in the driver's seat in the Light College whilst taking the opportunity to furnish an up and comer like Mathilde with a great subordinate.

Not sure if anyone would really think that Mathilde is becoming really invested into inter-College politics - after all she's been tremendously productive far outside Altdorf which can reasonably inferred to have taken most of her time.

We really need to find out more about Mira. All we really know is that she's 6 feet tall, glowing, intimidating, ambitious and powerful. Sucks we don't have a College Rumour Mill. Don't even know how we could set that up.

Of the many advantages and powers Mathilde has that surpass her master's abiltiies, she probably doesn't match to 1% of his info network. I don't think that man even gave Mathilde any Spymaster lessons, just spying lessons. We really need to expand our network into the Colleges at some point.

Or cultivate a closer relationship with one of our peers?

Mathilde is already juggling a very hefty amount of work; she doesn't really have the time to personally check in on Altdorf.
 
Mathilde reflexively pulls the same shenanigans on her underlings that her Master once did to her.
How much resistance have Johann and Max built up to it, at this point? Do they still startle amusingly, or are they at the rolling their eyes phase?
 
Starting to wonder if maybe Johann has a hidden Kinesthetic learning trait of some kind.

Anyways, very good update as always Boss.
 
It looks a lot like Dragomas and Algard wanted to slap down Alric and put Mira in the driver's seat in the Light College whilst taking the opportunity to furnish an up and comer like Mathilde with a great subordinate.

Not sure if anyone would really think that Mathilde is becoming really invested into inter-College politics - after all she's been tremendously productive far outside Altdorf which can reasonably inferred to have taken most of her time.



Or cultivate a closer relationship with one of our peers?

Mathilde is already juggling a very hefty amount of work; she doesn't really have the time to personally check in on Altdorf.
There is nothing that implicates Dragomas' involvement in the whole affair, and in fact it would be a bad idea. Nobody likes the thought of the Supreme Patriarch meddling overmuch in the internal management of the Colleges. It's not the Supreme Patriarch who decides who the Patriarch or Matriarch of a College is going to be. It's the College itself. Just because Mathilde is productive outside of Altdorf doesn't mean people can't see the blatant political motivations of Egrimm falling under Mathilde's control, it's very easy to assume that Mira did the heavy lifting and Mathilde was the "Pawn" who would take Egrimm out of the city.

Secondly, our information network is connected to the EIC network currently, which has 1 free action per turn. I want to expand it so it isn't just general trade information, I want to learn the political tensions in the Colleges because that stuff can screw us. I think it's optimistic to believe that Altdorf politics isn't likely to affect us when we poached Alric's best boy and likely resulted in him losing even more prestige after he was already slapped down by Dragomas.
 
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