They already have Loec, who, according to Deathfang, is the same person as Ranald.
Then again, Ranald might find it hilarious, and we already know that some gods are possibly worshipped under different names—Karnos and Taal, for example.
Warhammer Fantasy: Divided Loyalties - an Advisor's Quest
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They already have Loec, who, according to Deathfang, is the same person as Ranald.
Then again, Ranald might find it hilarious, and we already know that some gods are possibly worshipped under different names—Karnos and Taal, for example.
- Location
- Utrecht
Well, i'm pretty sure there's other euphemisms in other languages involving that particular tool
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- They/Them
These guys have a psuedo-democracy with this senate thing though and that's not Loec's ballpark...
Housekeeping note: I've changed my SV username to Boney instead of BoneyM, because while I still appreciate the band, I appreciate a dual purpose reference to Mathilde's early adventures in Stirland even more, with a bonus Napoleon reference for good measure. Truth be told when I picked it to start this quest I didn't realize how big it was going to be or how long it would last and just plucked a name out of the air.
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Loec doesn't have the whole freedom from oppression thing Ranald has. He's more about dancing, theatre and trickery.
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- They/Them
Yeah which is my point, there's a Ranald-shaped niche here!
I'm sad you did it before we had proper Kiselv adventures, and there would be endless Rasputin jokes and memes.
On second thought, maybe this is better.
K von Carstein
Likes to go for a walk
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- Belgium
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- He
What's the second way?😁
Persumably? Murdering Johann, and not resurecting either.
- Location
- Europa, Jupiter Orbit
So in contrast to Ulthuan, Tor Lithanel's population has ben growing rather than shrinking, at least for a good while since its founding. Interesting.
Also, I assume that having the right to have an apartment and live within city walls while actually commuting from an outhouse is beneath most Cityborn?
Also how big, roughly speaking, is the walled city itself?
Having been so long isolated, how does currency exchange work? Do they still value precious metals as much as any other polity we've encountered?
I think I misunderstood something between the Toriour/Faniour divide. I thought it was just about provable ancestry. Is it instead about physical location of birth? If yes, does it go both ways, i.e. if a pregnant Faniour gives birth while visiting the city during the daytime, does that result in a baby Toriour?
Do Mathilde, Johann and Egrimm sleep in Tor Lithanel during the months described in this chapter or do they commute between there and Middenheim? If the former, then that means that Mathilde got a privilege extended to pretty much any friend she brings that most local Elves do not enjoy. Interesting.
Not sure where we could put a helipad and maintenance bay though. And I don't think Marrisith would react well if we knocked a few walls down on the major house she loaned to makes some space.
- Location
- Utrecht
We just have to put the Gyrocopter in a pocket dimension
No structures can be built in Laurelorn without the express approval of the High Council, and they tend to not give it.
It's the size of a city. Giving an accurate answer beyond that would take literally hours of research on my part.
Speculation, mostly. Strong indications that the isolation is soon to become less so means there's those willing to take an opportunity to stockpile some foreign currency.
If you're Cityborn, you have to reside in Tor Lithanel to maintain that status. The original colony didn't want absentee landlords staying on Ulthuan and profiting off those that did transfer their lives to Laurelorn. There are exceptions and permissions around that, but they're only given for good reason.
There's exceptions in the charter for things like visiting foreign dignitaries.
Maybe the dwarf infection has spread to me, but is there a reason the city elves can't dig down for more space? You could have stores on the street level, richer appartments above, and work areas and less luxurious living space below.
One possibility is cultural resistance. They're not fond of dwarfs, and I can honestly see them being physiologically uncomfortable with it. I don't think the dwarf bit is it, from what we've seen. At most, a minor factor. No idea if they're just uncofortable with it, or how strong that would be. That said, if your choices are running out of moeny (and therefore unable to work) or being uncomfortable with work, humans choose the first. The elves aren't starving, but many are also clearly not fullfilled, and I imagine the ambitious who open shops would be willing to suffer discomfort.
The second possibility is an interst by the ruling class to keep the status quo, and the restricted space is a big part of that. So there might well be laws prohibiting it. Otherswise, I imagine the smaller landowners (aka anyone who owns something but isn't a major house) would go for excavation, if only for their own use. Persumably there is some level, if only for storage and such.
One possibility is cultural resistance. They're not fond of dwarfs, and I can honestly see them being physiologically uncomfortable with it. I don't think the dwarf bit is it, from what we've seen. At most, a minor factor. No idea if they're just uncofortable with it, or how strong that would be. That said, if your choices are running out of moeny (and therefore unable to work) or being uncomfortable with work, humans choose the first. The elves aren't starving, but many are also clearly not fullfilled, and I imagine the ambitious who open shops would be willing to suffer discomfort.
The second possibility is an interst by the ruling class to keep the status quo, and the restricted space is a big part of that. So there might well be laws prohibiting it. Otherswise, I imagine the smaller landowners (aka anyone who owns something but isn't a major house) would go for excavation, if only for their own use. Persumably there is some level, if only for storage and such.
Nonfunctional probably. The surplus of population in Tor Lithanel consists entirely of those who still chose not to leave and join the forest elves.
I would put him, very tentatively, in the Cadai camp.
Ulric is a god of weather, but he isn't a capricious god of weather like Mathlann or Hukon: he wants his followers to survive in his winters, and teaches them how.
and while he is a battle god, he is really a god of survival and community god first and foremost.
you train to fight for glory, but even more to protect the pack.
you keep the flame lit to venerate Ulric, but even more so because you don't want your nuts to freeze off. stupid.
Ulric is not nice, but he is not cruel or uncaring, just difficult and very primitive understanding of 'good parenting' for his cult:
he is the type of dad that will refuse to fed their kids and tell them to grow up... after teaching them to hunt, find water and build a tent... while following them out of sight with his own axe in case they cross paths with something nasty.
he is the type of dad that will not fight for his people, but will teach them to fight and stand beside them on the battlefield.
actually, at his most fundamental, Ulric is a teaching god more than anything else.
he is dad kratos: for the good and the bad.
Officially, the same reason they can't go up. Canopy above, roots below. It's easy to suspect that maintaining the status quo that greatly benefits those with the power to make that decision is an unofficial reason.
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- Utrecht
Well, yea, but being a forest elf means roughing it. Sure, they're good at it, but there's still beastmen/orcs/norscans/nordlanders to contend with.
k8p would still be living in a city.
It could also be a small scale thing, with some weavers making the move.
deathofrats0808
Don’t think of it as dying; just as leaving early
- Location
- Earth
I suppose you could read the text that way. Hadn't thought to do so, but that's fair.
That's not necessarily indicating that the Eonir are growing in population. Ulthuan has less reason to bunch so many people into a single city.
Canon-wise, Cothique has a bunch of underground Palaces.
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taovkool
Forever Gone
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- The Library, Department of General Works
You know, we might have to start one of this 'have a plan to kill everyone you meet' thing for real.
- Location
- New Brunswick, NJ
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- He/Him/His
fucking hell, we're dealing with NIMBYs
thrill to the escapism, folks
- Location
- Finland
Eonir might not, but the city almost certainly is growing in population because people keep leaving it due to population pressure and have been doing so for centuries.
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Cothique are not Eonir (i think?), and do not necessairly have same tech base available, either from divergent advancement or loss of capacity after the split.
Technology for underground, and probably underwater, palaces exist in the setting, but not everyone has access to everything.
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