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An empire anthropologist would have a field day with a society that practices polyandry (female polygamy). There are quite a few cases in the real world, and in a society where 3 out of 4 children are male, it makes a lot of sense.
I mean, this is nothing new. All Dwarfs practice it, this is not something unique to Karak Vlag. Grimnir and Grungni were brother-husbands to Valaya, and while lot of marriages between dwarfs are monogamous, marriages that model their Ancestor Gods are just as common.
 
An empire anthropologist would have a field day with a society that practices polyandry (female polygamy). There are quite a few cases in the real world, and in a society where 3 out of 4 children are male, it makes a lot of sense.
That's a dwarf standard already so i would assume any studies done are already done, or permanently discouraged (possibly by an axe to a skull).
But dwarves being openly flirty?
Heads are going to explode.
 
I guess Thorek has a new, even bigger apprentice swarm.
Or maybe kragg will take them all on, as part of his eternal T-pose on Thorek. I imagine they're effectively a blank slate for "wonders of the ancestors"
 
Eike's is the smallest of the six dormitories and rarely home to more than a dozen young girls, but that doesn't mean it's cramped, nor does it mean there's not privacy to be had.
Given the Grey College is located in a theoretically endless void I suppose floor space is something of a non-issue.

It must be a difficult needle to thread, you reflect: to develop the necessary mindset of deception and misdirection while also making sure that those developing them would still cleave to the Articles.
They have had over a century of practice, one would hope they have gotten quite good at it by now.

People get jumpy about how mutable their souls can be.
Well… humans. Elves laugh at the mutability of souls and Dwarfs do deliberate modification.

"Only fourteen left to find, then," you say, and smile at her look of shock.
Librarian: If the Lady Magister spent more time at the College she would know about number seventeen by now.

You wonder if Snorri's told the rest of his Clan that you might visit at some point, or if they simply have faith that the Dwarves of Karak Vlag are capable of dealing with a single intruder if it proves necessary.
...or, hear me out here, Mathilde is the most Dwarf-recognisable human alive.

"Our population is two thirds of what it was when we were stolen," he corrects, "but it was once lower, and has been climbing steadily for over a century. Once the Daemons changed tactics from their frontal assault to a more insidious probing, we had time to take stock of our circumstances. We had but a single enemy, and Her goal was either inscrutable or mercurial. All would kill or die to thwart her, but none could agree on how that could be accomplished. Some thought Her goal was to capture as many Dwarves alive as possible, and argued that the Karak should die. Some thought Her goal was to keep us imprisoned to leave Kislev vulnerable from the east, and argued that the Karak should live." He chuckles in what seems like genuine amusement. "Ironically, the two factions found symbiosis. Those that wished to die free needed some to stay living so that they would not be vulnerable to capture before they perished, and those that wished to live needed those willing to die to protect the Karak from predation."
…the greatest revenge is a growing population.

They taught all those that could trace even the narrowest of lines to Thungni what little they knew, and now about a third of the Karak bear the title of Rhunkit, those that are able to interact with existing Runes and craft a very few simple ones.
!!!!

The Cult of Thungni, I hear, is quite outraged,
You don't say.

Still, political s**t storm aside that is wonderful. Borderline industrial levels of rune production, even of the most basic, is amazing.

"Would it be inappropriate to invite a visitor from the Empire to share an intimate night with my wife and brother-husband?"
…oh my.


Eike remains cute and it is good to see more of the College.
Karak Vlag is fascinating. Ever will I mourn the path not taken and in this particular moment I dearly wish we were helping Belegar drag the Karaz Ankor out of its death spiral.

Wonder if we can write a paper on the divergent cultures of isolated Dwarf Holds?
 
Lovely update. Thank you very much for it Boney, this quest fills me with joy.

I'm happy Eike seems to be fitting in exceedingly well despite only being here for a few months, she'll do very well in the Grey College it seems.
 
I mean, this is nothing new. All Dwarfs practice it, this is not something unique to Karak Vlag. Grimnir and Grungni were brother-husbands to Valaya, and while lot of marriages between dwarfs are monogamous, marriages that model their Ancestor Gods are just as common.

This was asked before and the response from Boney was all dwarf marriages are monogamous... or at least all of them were until Vlag. I imagine they will use the ancestor example as a model and reasoning, but still this is to all intents and purposes a new thing for the Karaz Ankor
 
Republican teetotaler dwarfs more than half of which have some affinity to rune magic but next to no lore... yeah I have no idea what we could ask for them for a Transcendent Boon

Whilst I've been opposed to the traditional CKII experience before...

Part of me really wants to have Mathilde as the Witch-Queen of Karak Vlag, just for Thorgrim's reaction. He's the one who declared Mathilde a dwarf, so her becoming the radical queen of a radical Hold and then pestering him about the Waystones would just be hilarious.
 
Previous WoQMs on the subject of marriage:

Marriage is an Oath and taken very seriously. Widows usually remarry, and amongst Warrior Clans polyandrous marriages where multiple brothers marry one wife in the hopes that one will survive long enough to produce children aren't uncommon. Relationships between unmarried Dwarves are entirely their business. Pregnancy is much rarer, so children out of wedlock aren't that common at all, and those that are produced become part of the mother's Clan and are adopted within it, or are given to one of the Ancestor-God Priesthoods to be raised among them, which isn't seen as shameful. Gazul was originally Clanless, before being adopted into the Grungni-Valaya-Grimnir family.

Marriages are expected to be between Clans rather than inside it. Marriage customs vary quite a bit from Clan to Clan with some of the oldest Clans having customs that predate the Ancestor Gods, but what it usually comes down to is negotiations between Clan Elders with the prospective bride having veto power, and whether the bride joins the groom's Clan or vice versa is part of those negotiations. In theory romance isn't a part of it, but in practice the unspoken threat of elopement is enough to allow a woman to ram a candidate through negotiations if she so wishes - demographics being what they are, there's not a Hold in the Karaz Ankor that would turn away a freshly-married couple that arrived at their gates. Most Runesmiths Guilds will flat-out refuse to allow a practicing Runesmith to join another Clan by marriage, but non-Runesmith Clan members sometimes do, especially when dealing with a Clan of higher stature like a Royal Clan - which is how Kazrik traces his ancestry back to Thungni.

As a general rule of thumb, Royal Clans tend to be patrilineal (with Karak Norn being a notable exception) and Warrior Clans are often polyandrous. In matters of Dwarven marriage it's important to remember that three quarters of Dwarves are male, so the majority of Dwarf men will never marry.
 
And Karak Vlag has an army and a willingness to use it. If Thorgrim thought Belegar was a headache I imagine this must have made him drink himself unconscious from sheer stress when he realized what he was dealing with. Like we told the Chancellor a lot of the reason there is so little obvious strife among the dwarfs is that an angry dwarf will turn his feelings inwards thinking they are unworthy. Not so the dwarfs of Karak Vlag, they know what they are and what they have endured.
Thorgrmi's dream was to restore the Old Holds. Now that one is reconquered, another one is brought back from the warp and third one is reconnected thanks to the first one, he starts to think that this dream might have been actually a nightmare.
 
Thorgrmi's dream was to restore the Old Holds. Now that one is reconquered, another one is brought back from the warp and third one is reconnected thanks to the first one, he starts to think that this dream might have been actually a nightmare.

*Tzeench waving a monkey's paw*: Just as planned.
*Pissed off Slaanesh*: What do you mean just as planned you feather-brained asshole? Those were my dwarfs.
*Hashut from the sideline*: See that is why you have to lock these things down.
 
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I wonder...

Mathilde claims the radicalism is from the pressure but... and I am only half joking here, what if it stems from the lack of alcohol?

What if it is sobriety that makes Dawi more willing to adapt and believe in themselves? What if? They are the first sober Dawi we have met, after all.
 
"Sorry, you mentioned that before. What is a Rhunkit?"

"No Runesmith survived long past the Escarpment," he says frankly. "They knew too well where we were, and those that didn't fall in battle petrified themselves in their attempts to free us from it. But some of their Apprentices lived on, those that new a little of the working of Runes but had not yet learned enough to despair. They taught all those that could trace even the narrowest of lines to Thungni what little they knew, and now about a third of the Karak bear the title of Rhunkit, those that are able to interact with existing Runes and craft a very few simple ones. The Cult of Thungni, I hear, is quite outraged, but every one of those Apprentices had already embraced every punishment. Their names are forgotten, their properties forfeited, and once they had nothing left to teach, their lives were spent against the Daemons. So the Cult of Thungni can either march to war against the entire Karak or be silent. We will not apologize for surviving, and we have stood firm against far worse than they."

Stares.

Well I doubt it can get much wo-
The Elders do go on about it, though they've never been able to properly explain why."

"It's an acquired taste."

"I've got plenty of tastes without having to acquire more," he says with a shrug. "Oh, as one Loremaster to another, could you answer a question of culture of this Empire of yours?"
STARES.

Two centuries of survival, two centuries of survival, you gotta remember they survived for two centuries. No wheat, no oil, just stone, ore and daemons. It's fine, it's fine, A dwarf has dealt with odder things.
And yet they survived. No, more than that, they thrived. Their nadir was over a century ago, Brokkr said, and their population has been climbing since. Well, you suppose that makes sense, on both sides of the equation. The Daemons had reason to allow that as a renewable source of their new variety of shock troop, and as a self-maintaining toy for them to turn their attention to when they fancied. And on the Dwarven side, well, you're familiar with Dwarven fatalists, those that dwell on the decline of their race. But Karak Vlag's fatalists died in the first decade, leaving only those that embraced life as an act of defiance. You consider that for a moment, then draw a comparison to Karak Azul, isolated for millennia and constantly surrounded by greenskins but still strong despite it. Perhaps Dwarves with an immediate enemy to spite are ones more mentally healthy than those with no immediate threats, who have sufficient safety and freedom to despair at how much greater they used to be.
A DWARF WITH A FOE IS A DWARF WITH NO WOES AS THEY SAY. No time to descend into bellyaching and wool gathering! When there are things to be done they ought to get done!
The Rhunkit are not part of the Cult of Thungni or the Guild of Runesmiths, but the Cult of Thungni argues that all practitioners of Runesmithing are under their jurisdiction. Karak Vlag seems to disagree.
SQUINTS HARDER.

THERE ARE MANY THINGS THAT NEED TO BE PUT INTO BOOKS, BUT WHAT IS A GRUDGE AND WHAT IS WORTHY OF SONG IS YET TO BE DETERMINED.

Descends into incoherent grumbling and growling.
 
Not really worth it, you can't form a marriage alliance with a republic. Now I could see them being close politically, though it remains to be seen just how much political influence Vlag will have given their obvious radicalism.
I don't mean just as a political move, but as a personal one.

Politically, The King of an Newly reclaimed Old Hold marrying a person from Vlag would probably be quite a "welcome back" statement. A woman from Vlag probably does not have issues like "choose not to inflict the world on a fifth child", which makes Belegar more likely to end up with a near Kazadorian number of offspring.

Could someone translate the new titles we got?
Waaghdrengi is Waagh killer.
Karag zangunaz vengryni is something along the lines of Mountain vampire avenger?
 
I wonder...

Mathilde claims the radicalism is from the pressure but... and I am only half joking here, what if it stems from the lack of alcohol?

What if it is sobriety that makes Dawi more willing to adapt and believe in themselves? What if? They are the first sober Dawi we have met, after all.

Does Prince Gotri and his runic boom box strike you as sober? Dwarfs can be radical and drunk just fine.
 
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