They often fall to Chaos. Merely agreeing to work with the undead is a much smaller step.
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They often fall to Chaos. Merely agreeing to work with the undead is a much smaller step.
NotAKobold
Retired "High-Elven" Revolutionary
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I'll add it to the grand list of doom.
Theunderbolt
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Torroar go to sleep it sounds like you need it, yo.
Dutch's Imperial Culture Corner: Ostermark
Dutch
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Which is now apparantly. So without further ado, I present:
Dutch's Imperial Culture Corner
Now with 50% less paint skillz.
Where we have a look at the various Provinces of the Empire. Who knows, maybe you guys end up learning something new.
Today we'll be having a look at our other Ally Ostermark
Ostermark
As before, we'll start with some quick info.
Stuck between Kislev in the North, the World's Edge mountains to the east and Sylvania in the South, it is no wonder that large parts of Ostermark show the worst of its three neighbors. Large parts of the province suffer from harsh Winters, muddy Springs and Summers without much sunlight. Other parts of the Mark provide excellent conditions for farming, and are the reason why Ostermark is known for its agricultural products.
Ostermark can be divided into four main parts. The Gryphon woods in the north, The Veldt in the north-east, the Black Moors in the center and the Dead Wood in the south. The Province's political and economic heart lies in the Gryphon woods since the destruction of the old capital at Mordheim in 1999 IC, here you can find the Elector Count's seat of power, Bechafen. The region's main exports are lumber and riverboats, which are considered some of the best in the Empire.
The Dead Woods in the south are often avoided, with people taking the long route through the Moors or the river Stir rather than to brave the forest. This is not without cause, locals swear they hear screams coming from the forest at night and anyone who enters comes back mad and mutated, if they come back at all. Ever since the destruction of Mordheim the forest has been considered cursed.
The central portion of the province, the Black Moors, is mostly home to isolated farms and cottages. With whatever towns and villages it has spread along the rivers or trade routes. The region is mostly calm with the exception of the Eerie Downs. The Downs are rumored to hold the location of a great battle against the Vampire Counts of Sylvania. Legends say that when the bodies were raised to serve in the Count's armies their souls where left behind. Even now floating lights stalk the hills, trying to trick ignorant travelers and lead them to their deaths so they can steal their bodies and live again. The travellrs then join the spirits in the Downs, waiting for the next unlucky victim.
The Veldt is the heart of Ostermark's agriculture and the place where the Ostermarkers raise their famous horses, which are prized for their size and strength.
Even in the days before the Empire, the Ostagoths who inhabited the region that would become Ostermark knew they were stronger together than apart. The region was a gateway to the pre-Empire lands and its people fought against Goblins, Orcs and Trolls. After the battle of Black Fire pass the newly made Elector Count Adelhard and his men would take many mistresses from the lands of Averland, Talabecland and Stirland during their journey home, introducing many new bloodlines to the region now named Ostermark or "Eastern March".
More new blood came from the Ungols during their invasion in the 18th century, bringing with them the horse breeding culture Ostermark is now known for. Kislevites would also cross the border, but more often as settlers than conquerors. All of this formed a people who, while still recognizable Imperial in culture and language, where distinctly different to their western cousins.
Ostermarkers are often stout and thickset, their eyes tend to reveal an eastern heritage brought by the Ungols. Men prefer to wear thick moustaches instead of beards and high-peaked fur hats are more popular than the floppy hats worn in the rest of the Empire. Women wear their hair loose if single or in a long braid in various styles when married. People living in the colder parts of the province tend to wear several layers of clothing that make them look old fashioned to the rest of the Empire.
At their best, Ostermarkers are known for their vibrant souls, with a love for life, horses, dancing and alcohol. Their women in particular are known for their quick tempers and passionate nature. Reiklanders in particular tend find themselves dumped semi-naked in the Veldt after attempting to seduce a maid of Ostermark , often by the maid herself.
Few people look at Ostermarkers in this way, however. Most claim that they are half Kislevite, half peasant and entirely morose. Famed for drinking binges, elaborate funerals or combinations of the two, people often fear asking an Ostermarker how their day was, expecting a depressive monologue.
At their worst, the people of Ostermark are obsessed with death. Woman seldom remarry, since no Ostermarker husband would stay in Morr's realm knowing his wife was with another man. Fear of hauntings makes priests and exorcists of Morr very welcome in Ostermark. Carpenters are very much in demand to make elaborate coffins that are popular in the province. To an Ostermarker flamboyant despair is traditional and expected. Death is common and expected in a province that is often raided, destroyed and plundered.
Like Ostlanders, Ostermarkers have Kislevite tones in their speech. They speak Reickspiel with a distinct accent, vowels are heavily rounded and "th" sounds rendered almost as "d", something often used to make Ostermarkers the butt of many jokes. Unlike Ostlanders, they have a musical quality to their language. Words forgotten by the rest of the Empire are often used and terms are borrowed from Kislevites. The accent is easy to imitate and tends to be used by drunken nobles as a comedy party piece.
Dutch's Imperial Culture Corner
Now with 50% less paint skillz.
Where we have a look at the various Provinces of the Empire. Who knows, maybe you guys end up learning something new.
Today we'll be having a look at our other Ally Ostermark
Ostermark
As before, we'll start with some quick info.
Stuck between Kislev in the North, the World's Edge mountains to the east and Sylvania in the South, it is no wonder that large parts of Ostermark show the worst of its three neighbors. Large parts of the province suffer from harsh Winters, muddy Springs and Summers without much sunlight. Other parts of the Mark provide excellent conditions for farming, and are the reason why Ostermark is known for its agricultural products.
Ostermark can be divided into four main parts. The Gryphon woods in the north, The Veldt in the north-east, the Black Moors in the center and the Dead Wood in the south. The Province's political and economic heart lies in the Gryphon woods since the destruction of the old capital at Mordheim in 1999 IC, here you can find the Elector Count's seat of power, Bechafen. The region's main exports are lumber and riverboats, which are considered some of the best in the Empire.
The Dead Woods in the south are often avoided, with people taking the long route through the Moors or the river Stir rather than to brave the forest. This is not without cause, locals swear they hear screams coming from the forest at night and anyone who enters comes back mad and mutated, if they come back at all. Ever since the destruction of Mordheim the forest has been considered cursed.
The central portion of the province, the Black Moors, is mostly home to isolated farms and cottages. With whatever towns and villages it has spread along the rivers or trade routes. The region is mostly calm with the exception of the Eerie Downs. The Downs are rumored to hold the location of a great battle against the Vampire Counts of Sylvania. Legends say that when the bodies were raised to serve in the Count's armies their souls where left behind. Even now floating lights stalk the hills, trying to trick ignorant travelers and lead them to their deaths so they can steal their bodies and live again. The travellrs then join the spirits in the Downs, waiting for the next unlucky victim.
The Veldt is the heart of Ostermark's agriculture and the place where the Ostermarkers raise their famous horses, which are prized for their size and strength.
Even in the days before the Empire, the Ostagoths who inhabited the region that would become Ostermark knew they were stronger together than apart. The region was a gateway to the pre-Empire lands and its people fought against Goblins, Orcs and Trolls. After the battle of Black Fire pass the newly made Elector Count Adelhard and his men would take many mistresses from the lands of Averland, Talabecland and Stirland during their journey home, introducing many new bloodlines to the region now named Ostermark or "Eastern March".
More new blood came from the Ungols during their invasion in the 18th century, bringing with them the horse breeding culture Ostermark is now known for. Kislevites would also cross the border, but more often as settlers than conquerors. All of this formed a people who, while still recognizable Imperial in culture and language, where distinctly different to their western cousins.
Ostermarkers are often stout and thickset, their eyes tend to reveal an eastern heritage brought by the Ungols. Men prefer to wear thick moustaches instead of beards and high-peaked fur hats are more popular than the floppy hats worn in the rest of the Empire. Women wear their hair loose if single or in a long braid in various styles when married. People living in the colder parts of the province tend to wear several layers of clothing that make them look old fashioned to the rest of the Empire.
At their best, Ostermarkers are known for their vibrant souls, with a love for life, horses, dancing and alcohol. Their women in particular are known for their quick tempers and passionate nature. Reiklanders in particular tend find themselves dumped semi-naked in the Veldt after attempting to seduce a maid of Ostermark , often by the maid herself.
Few people look at Ostermarkers in this way, however. Most claim that they are half Kislevite, half peasant and entirely morose. Famed for drinking binges, elaborate funerals or combinations of the two, people often fear asking an Ostermarker how their day was, expecting a depressive monologue.
At their worst, the people of Ostermark are obsessed with death. Woman seldom remarry, since no Ostermarker husband would stay in Morr's realm knowing his wife was with another man. Fear of hauntings makes priests and exorcists of Morr very welcome in Ostermark. Carpenters are very much in demand to make elaborate coffins that are popular in the province. To an Ostermarker flamboyant despair is traditional and expected. Death is common and expected in a province that is often raided, destroyed and plundered.
Like Ostlanders, Ostermarkers have Kislevite tones in their speech. They speak Reickspiel with a distinct accent, vowels are heavily rounded and "th" sounds rendered almost as "d", something often used to make Ostermarkers the butt of many jokes. Unlike Ostlanders, they have a musical quality to their language. Words forgotten by the rest of the Empire are often used and terms are borrowed from Kislevites. The accent is easy to imitate and tends to be used by drunken nobles as a comedy party piece.
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@NotAKobold
hey I was wrong with the two I pointed out. Torroar updates the time left at the beginning of the turn not during the results
hey I was wrong with the two I pointed out. Torroar updates the time left at the beginning of the turn not during the results
fixed some of it.
as for the research, no. They were started on Turn 21. That's 1 turn. Then we just had Turn 22. That's 2 Turns.
They will, barring failure. complete on Turn 24. Hence, the TWo More Turns thing
DannyboyZero
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Is Magnus Jr. joining us for the Electors Meet or I'm I just making that up ?
jwolfe_beta
Semi Genre-Savvy Overlord
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Other people can come to Nuln with us but the Meet itself is the Counts and Magnus only I think.
DannyboyZero
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Oh I know that the meeting itself is just for the Emperor and the Counts, but yeah I was just wondering if we knew for a fact if Mag is coming to Nuln with us or not.
jwolfe_beta
Semi Genre-Savvy Overlord
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We'll see when the interlude starts.
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- Behind you.
Was anyone else surprised that Arthur made it into the final 4 of the Tourney?
I mean his Martial is like 10 less than his Brother and 15 less than Fred. I guess Anna was sitting this one out, because she definitely would have kicked ass. Maybe didn't want to show off magic in a tourney in the current climate, or was just too busy blowing up birds.
I also have to assume that Sir Urgdug the Nameful didn't participate, 'cause as far as ass kicking is concerned...
@torroar Speaking of Urgdug - how is his courting going?
I mean his Martial is like 10 less than his Brother and 15 less than Fred. I guess Anna was sitting this one out, because she definitely would have kicked ass. Maybe didn't want to show off magic in a tourney in the current climate, or was just too busy blowing up birds.
I also have to assume that Sir Urgdug the Nameful didn't participate, 'cause as far as ass kicking is concerned...
@torroar Speaking of Urgdug - how is his courting going?
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jwolfe_beta
Semi Genre-Savvy Overlord
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I figure that while Freddy and Magnus ran over their opponents, Arthur played the long game. He's the patient one in the family.
Considering his equipment (shield and mace) he probably let the enemy come to him, defend while they exhausted themselves and lay them out with a mace hit.
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Fair enough, I just figured that someone like Stephan von Raukov or a member of one of our numerous knightly orders would have beat him out. I mean we are talking about a teenager who isn't spending his whole time training to be a warrior or physically gifted beyond the ken of normal men, facing off against fully grown men with fighting experience.
That had to be some epic fighting right there
<pictures Torroar rolling nat 100 for Arthur's tourney performance>.
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jwolfe_beta
Semi Genre-Savvy Overlord
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Remember he has been working with Morr priests and one of their duties is fighting vampires: creatures faster, tougher and stronger then humans. Some of those tactics should be applicable here.
NotAKobold
Retired "High-Elven" Revolutionary
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- Florida, the giant aligator.
Are we sure that we haven't been drunkenly misspelling the name of our province?
Nah-then he'd have won. Then gone on to unmask a blood dragon.
Dutch
Bored Spearman of the Wind
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While not a CC I can give you guys a few highlights on Ostland's entry in Sigmar's heirs as comparison.
See it as a way of looking at how we changed from canon.
Night_stalker
Slava Ukraini!
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That's mostly because unlike Otto, he didn't spend his days torturing people at random and letting bandits roam freely. Vlad actually did shit for the people there, took out bandits, collected taxes, set up laws that were followed....
Imperious
Without the sun of my life
That wasn't even that unique. In that regard he was just one of several claimants to the Imperial Throne. Living soldiers would march side by side with his undead forces during the first vampire war. He did however fight the war in an extremely brutal fashion.
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Trying to conquer the empire is not something that needs understanding, i'd say it's the status quo for most Electors. Heck, if it weren't Magnus the Pious on the big chair, we'd probably make a run for it. I'm actually trying to recall if there were rumblings about trying to take the seat from him anyway in the thread, but the thread is way to long to try to search through.
Dutch
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Ostland - in canon.
- The Ostland Elector Counts were the last people to give up their claims on Kisliv ground, which they had claimed and sometimes held since the middle of the 1st millennium. Even when it became clear they couldn't hold it, they spent a lot of resources to try just that.
- Nordland has a claim on the area around our main port.
- Bullheaded. Dwarf vs Ostlander who is more stubborn? Openly pondered by Imperials.
- Took Sigmar 3 days to convince the early Ostlanders to follow him.
- Known for their ability to survive, capable of eating anything, mocking "Stone soup of Ostland" song.
- Joke about Stone soup with only 1 rock, in fear of wasting rocks.
- One of the last to adopt guns, in fear of wasting good swords and spears.
- At best: Practical, cool headed, don't give a damn about grace, proud survivors, hold your head high.
- Proud militairy traditions and lore.
- BOOOOOOZZZEE!!!
- At worse: Stubborn, intolerant, hate waste.
- Jealousy at "Breadbasket provinces" : Reikland, Stirland, Averland and the Moot.
- Extreme devoutness of local Sigmarites : Sigmar either slew a dragon together with the Ostland count during the early days of the Empire. Or to suck up to Reikland in order to get financial aid.
- Ostland accent has Kislevite influence, tends to pauze mid sentence. Accent associalted with poverty.
- Bloody Fane: Sacred site to Khorne.
- Salkalten: Trade port build to lure away trade from Marienburg after it was lost to the Empire. Has a sister port in Nordland
- Wolfenburg: You know this.
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Imperious
Without the sun of my life
He did. Though I don't think he would have personally considered it corruption.
The Dhar vortex statement refers to a statement in Liber Necris in which if a vampire does not drink blood he could live on the winds of magic instead, however the winds once ingested by the vampire would break down into Dhar, doing all sort of nasty stuff to the vampire. So long as the vampire opts and manages to drink blood instead that, specifically, would not be an issue.
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