considering the ark's wards were active at full for most of this mess and the account of divine and demonic forces involved your not getting any answers worth a damn with divination
I'm fairly confident that Malekith and Morathi have the scryers to get past that if they want too. They're strong, not invincible on top of the wards weakening dramatically over the course of the conflict.
 
I'm fairly confident that Malekith and Morathi have the scryers to get past that if they want too. They're strong, not invincible on top of the wards weakening dramatically over the course of the conflict.
Nah the ark's wards are backed by powerful magical infrastructure which always trumps powerful individual magic users , its a consistent though unspoken theme throughout warhammer fantasy lore , I could site examples if you want
 
I awaken once more, but at what cost. Corrections have been pm'd to me, and I'll try to get to them in time. Amusingly, before I opened up the thread once more to read through your comments, the alerts were at 696, nice lol.

So! Overall, the Goretrawl are something that have been floating around in the background of DoDA for some time. They spend more of their time in the Chaos Wastes, generally, finding greater prey there to glorify Khorne in directly targeting forces and temples and places of power belonging to the other Three of the Four. You are not necessarily liable to learn this...well no, Johanna would know more given she was in Nippon for a bit and it's a legend that lingers, hmm. She might yab about it to Frederick in the future if/when he asks. Said Goretrawl Fleet was not, I will also note, represented in its entirety here. This was one of their most southerly detachments that decided to take a chance. Not their whole.

Additionally, Maghda Sprenger was absolutely one of the most powerful characters in DoDA on the side of the Empire, nominally. She was basically a hyper-blessed and empowered figure, and was originally going to lead to a sort of conservatism and 'return to values' era for the Cult, stepping back from more mercantile focuses, or at least, a lessening of binding between her Cult and Handrich i.e. money hungering. Which was going to result in a bit of a slow rolling culture war through Marienburg as she turned the Cult of Manann's prices down, focused more on outreach, safety, communication, offering much cheaper and more thorough guidance and protection on the seas, etc. Going 'loud' in terms of showing the power of the Cult, but simultaneously softer as well. That uh. That's not going to be happening now, she didn't have nearly long enough to instill such values into nearly enough folk in the Cult. On the other hand, she got to take a Black Ark down, so there is that. But channeling that much power was literally impossible to survive, and she burned all five of her Fate Points holding on long enough to actually pull it out.

The Priest of the Great Maw was fully lost, I will also note. Ogres don't 'come back' from being gorgers or starving, especially those who are a much stronger metaphysical conduit to the Great Maw which is a constant drain anyway. He was on the thin thread of sanity, and in truth - this may be something Tanrala brings up at some point to Frederick - Screamtaker had in actuality already finished with him. You saw signs of this in the trophy room, where there were implements of Greenskin Shamans, but no greenskins actually in the chamber. Once she fully finished, she usually let them die slowly and painfully of starvation/dehydration, or just tortured them to death for funsies once they were done. In fact, a lot of the people in that chamber were already set to die, their tomes compiled and completed. Alyssa, of course, didn't know that for certain, so kept them around longer, and instead of dedicating more time to unraveling the mysteries and whims of Screamtaker, had other things to think about. Like how her Ark she'd so painstakingly prepared to take over was already falling apart around her. And then Natasha.

The Necrarch...could have potentially been an ally, but anti-vampiric and anti-undead prejudice plus expediency didn't leave enough time to ruminate on the matter. She also could have potentially gotten her staff back, immediately dipped out and teleported away with an ominous promise of 'reward' in the future for services rendered in freeing her.
 
Any chance we can sponsor and support this faction of the cult? explain it as Freddy honoring the sacrifice of Maghda?

Frederick literally could not know what her future plans and arc was, unfortunately.

Manann expended a lot on her, and a lot again on this. A God can only strongly intervene so much and so many times, after all. Unless you're the Dark Gods, who can just...fuckin' do whatever they want. But hey, that's Warhammer.
 
[X] Remain With Frederick von Hohenzollern As Main Perspective And Choice/Control Going Forward. This will involve the Warband cobbled together out of freed slaves, a number of heroes, and Norsca.

Controlling what we do for the beastide is the better choice strategically, but what is the point of coming home after a long treck if we do not see the treck? Freddy walking back into ostland is going to be amazing
 
Coming out as trans to your family be like
To be honest. Turning from Asur to Druchii is probably way more intense than male to female/female to male.
Turning back is probably worse than de-transitioning. Good thing she had several years to try and figure this out.
While being a mother to a murder god blessed child.

And lastly, doing this while your soul scares Natasha/freaks freddy out?
OMG. That positive reinforcement from Sardinia really tipped things over ya?
Hultressa. I know you've had several years and resources to process this shit.... But are you okay?
"Well," Sadrina says as she walks forward, inhaling deeply herself, eyes closing and then opening on the exhale to reveal the slightest burnished green glow to her gaze that makes Hultressa stiffen while placing a hand on her shoulder. "For a mother to risk all to save her daughter, I do not doubt that Isha would smile upon such a woman."

THIS HIT HER SO FUCKING HARD.
 
[X] Remain With Frederick von Hohenzollern As Main Perspective And Choice/Control Going Forward. This will involve the Warband cobbled together out of freed slaves, a number of heroes, and Norsca.
 
And thank you again for all of your patience and kindness, I know that this has all been a long time coming. But, and I will confess this with both humility and shame, I straight up just got bothered by the 'are we done with the Black Ark' pokes that came up now and again. I know that there weren't actually that many in the end, in the total tally, but they stuck in the mental craw enough that the eventual end point was 'well we aren't straight up all dead or off the Ark yet, so we keep going until one of those two things happen'. I know, I know, the stoic philosophers would be disappointed in me, woe is my mental weakness. 'this doesn't have to bother you' yeah yeah I know Marcus Aurelius. Whatever. Just goes to show that I am, in fact, very emotionally involved in my writing n'what not.

But hey, here we are, off the Ark! Finally! Woo and hee and so on, lol.

Glad that overall you seemed to like it :)

Things...should...be going forward a bit faster now, hopefully. Barring unforeseen circumstances IRL, as per usual.

Oh! Also, two songs that were strong inspirations for the latter half or so, I ended up listening to both a good few times while writing. I do not know why the first one has a weird 'bwaaam' at the beginning and end', try and ignore those. Second song rather obvious for inspiration and how I used it, lol, for switching a few words around and the like.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vL9mYx5fwSI&ab_channel=DanielLav%C3%ADnGonz%C3%A1lez

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EtOAaK19bA&ab_channel=PlayWarframe
 
I have returned and zoggin hell that was impressive.

[x] Remain With Frederick von Hohenzollern As Main Perspective And Choice/Control Going Forward. This will involve the Warband cobbled together out of freed slaves, a number of heroes, and Norsca.
 
Holy fuck, torroar. I just wanted to say that you are an awesome writer, and your writing is awesome. O_O

Just... it feels like you bring us into a whole world. And you bring that world alive; it feels like the world is living and vibrant, and it also feels like -- whatever setting it might be, whether Draenor and Dranosh, or Zul'Gurub and Jojo, or Warhammer Fantasy -- it manages to remain true to itself and exemplify the themes and vibes of the setting. You look upon the things in the story and you think, you feel, like "This is a world where the stories and characters appropriate to Warhammer/Warcraft/etc are capable of happening in." The story feels like it does not merely depict a setting, but it feels like it can keep creating stories and heroes and villains of that setting; it does not feel like it merely takes a few mini-stories or characters and plays them out until the energy ends or the mini-story runs out, instead it feels like it builds on itself and to lay the grounds for further life in that setting.

And you manage to take our characters, your characters, and guide them through that setting. Telling their own stories. Interweaving their stories with the stories of the people and places they inhabit. And all the while, managing to nail the themes and genres of the setting you write about, too. Amazing, torroar.
"Avast!" Laughs one of the latter kind, a cutlass replacing the former Westerlander left leg and two burning – literally – red pits for eyes that set his tricorn hat to smoking. "In the name of Khorne, and by the demands of the mighty Goretrawl Fleet, stand ready and prepare to have your skulls plundered, blood spilled, and treasures taken!"

"You should have let me die asleep!" Soya interjects from where he lays in Johanna's arms, glaring angrily at a bemused Tanrala. "For Asaph's sake, even Zandri's sailors have heard of these degenerated mongrels of the seas!"

"I do not care, I did not request that knowledge, kill them all!" Natasha shouts, and the warband roars and surges in answer to her, yourself included.
Soya has been an amusing and well-fitting addition to the impromptu party; he provides comic relief.

He is just so grumpy. So old and disappointed. ((He's not actually that old, 3000 years for a Liche Priest is actually... Nagash cast his great spell sometime around, what -1100 or something like that? Either he's rounding down in order to make himself look younger and more youthful (lol), or... I dunno. He was made a Liche-Priest in some very interesting times and circumstances.)) He's also an accomplished caster himself of course, but still; his role seems to be that of comic relief at times.
The world is slow around you, the noise muffled, your heart's every thump louder than anything else in your ears.

(Last Chance: 25+Natasha Martial(11)+19+Tanrala's Spells(20)-Hungry Harpoons(15)-Off Balance From Deflection(5)-10-Crowding Bodies(5)=40/100)

Your fingertips touch.

Ledstali to Ledstali, soul to soul, agonized eyes to agonized gaze.

Then she is gone, slipping over the edge, with one final angry cry.
... This felt reminiscent of Magnus and Anna, back in Karak Ungor.

Also, it makes for an interesting mini-booknote; that after Natasha had spent time and a mini story arc getting ready to rescue Frederick... now, it is Frederick who has to go and rescue her. Bookends and mirrors.

Also also: this sort of stuff that happens with the rolls, is an interesting example of how you manage to deftly weave dice rolls into your story. To make dice rolls -- some of them, when they happen in the right time and place, or by the right person -- change or alter or add to the story. But without doing so in a way that just goes "Well'p, you die" or "Well'p, you win". It's great. Rolling poorly for the harpoon roll just before this, meant that the dice suddenly introduced a "Your wife got harpoon'd onto a Goretrawl pirate ship; you now have to somehow rescue her back from the ship" mini-arc for an update or two.
An unearthly noise arises from deep within your soul and escapes out into the world loud enough, angry enough, that those around you reel backwards. Fear, pain? You can't tell and it doesn't matter. None of it matters.
Somehow, these set of lines just... somehow very nicely communicated how angry Frederick was.

Not only that, it somehow communicated or made it feel like, everyone else around Frederick would just... notice a sudden aura of anger around Frederick. Like something you'd see happen in cinema or a videogame, where shit hit the fan. And you manage to do that in a few words. Moreorever, you managed to insert a place for it to happen in the narrative; the ebb and flow of the tension made it feel natural to happen.
"Natasha, don't…I…," you reach up for a moment and in a split second of fury realize that the Light of Summer will do not a damned thing for her.

It is bound to your blood, not hers. Perhaps that would be different, with the strange changes of the soulbond that neither of you can explain, but a second's effort has it looped around her neck for no effect whatsoever.

"Damn it!" You curse.
... Hey, I wonder... could Sunweaver alter the Light of Summer to work on Natasha as well? Using this deepened soulbond connection between Natasha and Frederick?

Is that something we might think about happening later in the future, when we get back?
You'd like it if they were completely drunk and stumbling about like some of the tales say about their kind, but these are not just the sorts of pirates that one could find in Sartosa, but sworn to Khorne. They run, rush, and leap about as if you aren't in the middle of the air, the clouds and winds whistling around you, and for all of that, they might as well not be. This is normal for them, and a struggle for you. Johanna is having a better time on that front, the claws of her feet dig into the wooden boards, and while her wings are still horribly damaged they can still clearly flap and beat every now and again.
Again, that mention of "This is normal for them" -- this is just... yeah. The world is ending for us, and for the Druchii, but like... you get across very easily and quickly that, like... for somebody else, this is just an "in media res" type story for them. For the pirates, this isn't the height of their story arc as they finally begin to escape from imprisonment; this is just the middle of a battle for them. A big battle, to be sure, with much glory and carnage in it; it's rare to be able to take down a Black Ark. But still. In media res. This is the middle of the workday for some pirate. This sort of thing happens to them all the time; they fire off cannon and harpoon, they reel in some fish ((they probably call it reeling in fish, or some other slang, huh?)) and then they rush in to chop it to bits. Average day at work during a big battle.
I have my serious doubts about his claims about still being alive, I can't tell if he's taken a single breath amidst all his complaining!

If you think for a moment, you can hear it through her ears.

"-than Phakth Himself! No sky such as this would be blessed by His presence, praise be to him! Besides which, it was only at thousand years ago that his fury shook the skies above Zandri so much that-,"
Starting to think that this guy copes with life and unlife by complaining, like how Ostlanders drink. Perhaps he feels that if he complains and makes things feel normal enough, that the world will contort to his complaining?

... Also, despite me calling him a comic relief provider, his initial appearance included both petty, petty, squabbling with the Necrarch... and some surprisingly bone-deep-weary resignation about the cycles of vengeance and betrayal and ambition of blood kin. Few words to establish character and history and age and experience. Emotional depth.
It looks like the ocean itself has invaded the Ark's waters, tearing through the outer sea gates, those meant to raise and lower to allow Druchii ships to leave and enter. There are even a few broken Goretrawl ships on the inner shoreline, casualties of the sea's wrath. But what you see beyond that, all of it, is what quiets you utterly in shock like little else has in your life. For you see ships. Imperial ships, bold and true, but without the accursed tinge and rank revulsion in your soul that even sighting the infernally tainted ships of the Goretrawl can bring up. Imperial ships, but not a one of them looks natural, or at least as they should be. Many of them have huge holes torn in their hulls, their masts shattered, their sails tatters, and more than that, they are surrounded by a strange, blueish green glow. Even that is not as shocking as the fact that some of them are in fact pushing out onto the shoreline far beyond the waters, responding to some unseen current of air or perhaps something else altogether. Algae and seaweed choked cannons fire out concentrated blasts of water that scour stone as if it were butter and the water flame, almost acidic in nature. Other rotten timbered scorpions launch bolt after bolt after bolt. Then there are the crews, too far away from you to see clearly, but clearly touched by those same strange energies. It's actually quite easy to spy a ghost when there's so many of them in one place, after all. Especially when there are full on spectral ships ghosting through buildings and firing ethereal weapons.
Imperial ships? What the fuck, where did they come from?

Wait... is this some sort of Davy Jones Locker type shit? Manann's Locker??
Your wife is a blessing in and of herself, but she has freely admitted that she is the lesser compared to her sister when it comes to pulling upon the powers of her homeland. You have witnessed before some priests that can draw out a faint warm glow from Sigmar while there are others who can set their enemies aflame outright. There are Shallyans who can soothe pain, and others who can outright restore wounds. You have no true context, personally at least, as to the weight and magnitude of a God's favor and channeled divinity. But you've seen a Grand Theogonist and an Ar-Ulric, how grand their power and how terrible it can be should they falter for a brief moment. Against Zacharias. Against the Blood Fane. All this and more. But before this moment, you can honestly say that you simply had not thought more than a few times in respect to a lesser tor brought down and grief and respect after the battle atop the Tor of Dominance…

How favored was Magdha Sprenger, High Matriarch of the Cult of Manann, divinely drawn out of the seas and her people there to serve on the mainland?
... Apparently it is. Holy shit. What a woman, that Magdha.
Beholding that, you nonetheless continue to carve down the Tor, the other ships doing their level best to pursue, and some of those harpoons are getting awfully close to sticking into the hull, and as you do so, you can see whole waves of those ghostly mariners storming the docklands and beyond alongside beast and spirit and whatever the hell else is there. Down, down you go, the ship creaking and groaning and stone shrieking and breaking beneath, until you curve around the Tor's side once more so that you are able to view the actual surface of the Ark proper beyond the Docklands. In fact, the Temple of Khaine, or what used to be the Temple of Khaine, is directly in front of you, that gigantic statue of Khaine taller than the Cathedral of Sigmar in Nuln. Or at least it used to be. Now that vast statue has toppled, collapsing to the side and completely flattening dozens of buildings and damaging even more, leaving only the ankles and feet. It's certainly attention grabbing, but so too is the tableau of the temple itself. No longer a mere temple, either. Instead, worse than what your wife faced in the arena, the small tear in reality that Alyssa Voidreaper managed to bring forth has grown.

Well. What a time to be disappointed by one of the Cytharai. Natasha murmurs through the soulbond.
I wanted to touch on something here -- despite the fact that the toppling of Khaine's statue is just one part of a paragraph in the middle of an update here...

... This feels like an example of the sort of writing of your's that just, sorta populates the world and makes it feel vibrant? Like... this random few sentences here. But you managed to place and pace those few words in just the right spot.

Because you manage to evoke a feeling of magnificence. Ruined magnificence. The end of an era. Or a great polis. A Black Ark. Moreover, it feels like the sort of brief scene you'd see in a movie somewhere, where some notable building -- maybe Big Ben, maybe the Statue of Liberty, maybe just some local building or tree or landmark that had appeared in the series or movie beforehand and felt like it characterized the place -- gets toppled or felled, and the video watchers gasp and feel feelings.
It is thankfully a sensation that does not last long, however, as over a dozen Goretrawl ships are currently sailing the streets between buildings, and circling the ruins of the temple and location of the much larger portal. Infernal smoke rises into the air and everything else, while brass chains rattle, cannons and scorpions firing as well. The rivalries between the Dark Gods are made clear once more as the devoted of Khorne eagerly and angrily fight against the rising tide of Slaaneshi invaders into the material world. Even as your own badly tilted ship keeps traveling downwards, the rain filling the air, the clouds and smoke, the storm blocking out the sun entirely, the fires both natural and not burning, you can see the Keeper of Secrets leap and land on one of the ships, partially shattering the entire thing under the impact.

"How long were we in that tower?!" Johanna asks incredulously.
I feel exactly like that too, Johanna. How the hell did this much happen, in such a short amount of time?!

Also: a fucking Keeper of Secrets showed up. Holy shit.
Your eyes fall upon a new figure, warily watched by Sadrina and Kerillian and a host of other elves and freedmen, as well as the skink priest. None of them dare stand ten or even fifteen feet close. And why would they? The one they ever so cautiously watch, hands on hilts, or power gathered and at the ready, is monstrous to behold, and powerful to boot. Your breath grows harder and harder to maintain, almost like trying to breath through water itself, even more than the rain and wind has been managing. A deep cold wafts outwards from them, not like Natasha, who's cold is that of pure ice and snow, but something else. Primordial, in its own way, but different all the same. Dispersed where Natasha's is concentrated. A different hue, you could almost call it, for the Winds of Magic do crackle and twist and spin around them, tangled up in thick cables that link them to….everything, it feels like. You've seen your wife cast spells now, and know what it looks like to see spells woven into reality, but the ethereal columns that exude from this individual simply trail off into the world, beyond your perception, undulating like ghostly tendrils and watery fronds.

In the material world, they are hardly a better sight.

"…so you the…last...come…,"
Is that a demigod of Manann or something?
But it is a damned near thing.

"Maghda," you say softly, fighting to keep the disgust out of your voice and only barely succeeding.
Wait, no, that's Maghda?
Bone that has shaped itself as it protrudes outwards, the shape of it such that you cannot rightly tell if this is a mutation brought on by exposure to Dark Magic in tremendous amounts or something of a blessing as conveyed by her God.

For the shape of that exposed bone is that of a five-tined crown.

Maghda's head tilts suddenly, with an audible crunch of bone and chitin.

"Mag…dha…," she murmurs, yet the sound itself is enough to buffet Oskana into quietly screeching. "Yes. No."
... Uh, wait, no, maybe it is some demigod or spirit of Manann after all. o_O
"What have you done?" You ask more insistently.

"Bought vengeance with sacrifice," she whispers, lips quirking ever so slightly.

The seawater pouring from her empty right eye socket is beginning to tinge more and more with red the longer she is like this.

"Maghda Sprenger died when she was cast from the skies to the waters below. When she hit the water as a stone, and was dragged through carved channels in stone to the depths beneath," she shake her head slowly. "I'm just…what's left. At the end of it all. An ember. A current being overtaken by the greater sea."

"You're not coming back."

"Not from this. It is too much. He is too much, and I, too mortal," she rasps, the sound disgusting as bone cracks and flesh squelches once more when she raises up her other arm and almost marvels over it.
Maghda. :(

I'd say more words, but... She was grand. And she will be missed. Sorely. What could she have done, have kept doing, for the Church of Manann and for Marienburg if she had survived all this? A leader as holy and beloved by Manann as, I dunno, Magnus is by the Gods, or the Everqueen is by Isha. A leader and holy figure like that can do a lot for a place, a people, a culture. She will be sorely missed.
That a Druchii sorceress, in desperation, out of love, and fury, not only not knowing but outright incapable of knowing what your wife would attempt and accomplish, called the gaze of Khorne upon this Ark. She could not have known. If Maghda had known, could she have crawled or swam to freedom, to elsewhere, and survived? Assuredly so, you think, though it might have taken her years to recover. But instead, she did not know if you, or Natasha, or any others might be able to properly answer for the savage destruction that those holy temple-ships suffered, that the coasts and temples of Manann have suffered at the hands of the Druchii. At this Black Ark in particular, more likely than not.

She couldn't have known. You wish she had, but she didn't.
Dammit. I wish she could have survived, too. At first, Freddy was pissed that Hultressa did this... but now it's like, "dammit I wish Magdha had known this would happen so that she wouldn't have died for this." What a bunch of whiplash there, man.
"What do we tell the rest of the Cult?" You ask her quietly, and that burning light in her left eye dies down again, but only faintly.

"She returned to the sea, and the depths," she informs you calmly, bone crackling and brunching as she straightens slightly. "Tell them that, and they will know. What comes next…is up to the Gods."
o7

And you manage to throw in some sea chanties too, torroar. Just... as an atmospheric thing. Just adds to the whole thing. Like, of course people would be muttering in disappointment to themselves like Soya, or glaring in rage like Frederick when he sees his wife get taken, or melancholically and yet loudly singing sea songs -- it's just the sort of thing that people in these situations do. They are people and they act on their habits, they express themselves. And this all helps set the tone and the scene and the story. And also helps build the feel of the whole world. Because it gets across that these are normal and average (if heroic and unique) people of the world, who worship the gods, who feel tied to the land and the times and all. And just... yeah.

... And then you finish up by giving a What-If? omake of Fanriel's adventure again. To show an alternate version of how the Black Ark story might have ended instead.

A notable way to mark this story arc. It makes it feel unique and notable. And also gives it a sense of finality. And identity on its own. That this whole story arc was a thing that happened and felt notable, both in-universe and out-of-universe (i.e. in-thread). Cool stuff, torroar.

[X] Remain With Frederick von Hohenzollern As Main Perspective And Choice/Control Going Forward. This will involve the Warband cobbled together out of freed slaves, a number of heroes, and Norsca.

... I wonder if the Tsarina is being taken to Norsca or something? If Roland's son is following her and will meet with her coffin? And if Roland himself will also meet her?

I wonder if there will be a grand convergence of storylines? Either in Norsca, or somewhere in between the border of Norsca and Kislev?

Given how the Black Ark ended with a finale bigger than what I was expecting -- I thought the hype would end JUST with Alyssa's defeat! Instead it got even more crazy, holy shit! -- it would feel appropriate or expected or amazing or surprising all at once somehow. If it happened, it'd feel like a neat bookend to a large amount of stories, and also the explosion of big events that just happened this year.

... 'course, then we'd have to trek to the rest of the Empire too. And may or may not arrive late for the Beasttide, who knows. And then there'll be the literal YEARS of aftermath of the Beasttide after that -- as well as the aftermath of the Battle of the Everpeak, and who all will return from that huge battle -- and, yeah.

This whole thing is shaping up to be as big as not just the Third Vampire War or Thorgarr the Bloody, but potentially as big as the Everchosen invasion. Because Norsca, Kislev, and the Empire saw huge battles and wars all in one year. What a goddamn year to be alive, holy shit. And then the world continues on. Keeps rolling on.
 
But hey, here we are, off the Ark! Finally! Woo and hee and so on, lol.

Glad that overall you seemed to like it :)
I know none of us were really emotionally invested in Jaquelin and her Pegasus riders.
But the fact that she's the daughter of a duke, and one of our better mercenary warriors feels like such a waste.

Seriously. Her pegasi riders made all this possible.

Also. I had this strange urge to ship her and Roland.
Like it made sense to my brain but if you asked me why, I couldn't really tell you specifically why.

Maybe it was because they were both damaged Brettonians and needed a second chance.
And no other knight would give her that chance.

And it would have caused so much trouble back home if they got together.
... Yeah thaat was probably the main attraction for me.
The car crash that would have followed.


Having said that. I'm glad we didn't lose more people.
 
Manann expended a lot on her, and a lot again on this. A God can only strongly intervene so much and so many times, after all. Unless you're the Dark Gods, who can just...fuckin' do whatever they want. But hey, that's Warhammer.
Nay I oppose this GW grimdirp , Manann can 100% intervene in the affairs of his church with near impunity for the same reasons the chaos gods can do whatever they want , its all a matter of infrastructure , gods have influence and power in lands and places where they have the divine infrastructure to project that power from (its why you won't here of Sigmar doing much of anything all the way in Cathy for example) , IE the more temples , worshipers, holly sites and followers a god has in an area the more power and influence he has in that space and if said infrastructure is particularly powerful like say a magical mega temple situated on a place of power like say the Ice Born Flame then that is even more power for the god to bring to bear in area

the chaos god's power comes from the polar warp gates and the green moon acting as world spanning mega temples projecting their influence across the globe , its why chaos activity noticeably goes down the closer to the world's equator you get not that their aren't ways to block said influence out via setting up warding magical infrastructure like the waystones

but I digress back to the original topic , Manann can 100% intervene in the affairs of his church because it is where he has the most influence because it is part of the magical infrastructure that lets him project influence across the old world
 
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Nah the ark's wards are backed by powerful magical infrastructure which always trumps powerful individual magic users , its a consistent though unspoken theme throughout warhammer fantasy lore , I could site examples if you want
And then they don't/are used as examples to show just how good X character is. It isn't a consistent unspoken theme, and even then the wards were fucking broken.

Even if you assume that there's no way they could possibly be breached (something Hultressa herself said isn't the case its just hard to the point of usually not being worth while) that's while they're at full strength. Not when they're operating at fractional capacity.
 
"You knife-eared Mortis spawned whore of Usirian's spoor!"
I like this guy already
(Pride and Prejudice: 38+Desperate Times(10)+Proof of Genevieve(20)+Proof of Johanna(15)-Racial Hatred of Undead(25)-Desecration of Dwarfs(15)-Desecration of Arabyans(10)=33/100)
A roll I'm happy to roll low on. If it had been a vote I'd have voted to kill the vampire anyway
(The Whalers of the Crimson Seas: 1+Heroes and Freedmen(15)+Defensive Magics(15)-Maelstrom and Noise(15)-15-Blood Seeking Harpoons(15)=-14/100)
I'd swear at this but honestly? With the boat chase that came after it and nobody (important) dying? Best nat 1 of the quest
Whether or not any of the Druchii still living might want to admit it, the Claw of Dominion is dead.

It dies a horrid, slow, agonizing death by too many great afflictions to bear.
Yeah, this ark is so fucked that I don't have the right words to stress how fucked it is. It's the equivalent of a motorcyclist that had a head on collision with an 18 wheeler on the motorway then got knocked into the path of an oncoming train before what was left landed in a woodchipper
The closer you get, the more damage you can see done to the Temple of Mathlann. The gates have crumbled, not in, but out. Their walls have taken severe damage, blown out in several other cases, but the source of which is almost immediately understood when you look up, up, and up still at the largest crab you've ever seen. It shifts back and forth on legs thicker and wider than Urgdug, and with each slight movement, murderously large chunks of stone fall from its carapace and claws.
Well that settles that argument
Manann 1, Mathlann 0
"There is no her, not anymore," she answers back, still not looking away from Maghda. "The mortal woman you knew as Maghda Sprenger gave herself over to her God utterly and completely, in desperation and fury."
Damn. I knew it was a long shot but some part of me hoped against hope we could have saved her
"Oh sailors you, so wise and true…when it's my time to go…won't you lay me down with a five-tined crown…and I'll be sleeping in the cold below, below…sleeping in the cold below…"
Rest in piece Maghda. You died how you lived, an incredible badass and faithful servant of your god. The empire is poorer without you.
Brobdingnagian - adjective - huge, gigantic
Huh, new word
"Also, some of the men found, well...," she glances about as if someone's going to be listening in except Oskana. "Remember that mace of hers?"

"Aye," you nod before you draw back from her, "No."

"Yeah. Was just...laying on the shore. Washed in on the tide behind us. Don't know what to do with it, but hell if I'm touching the damned thing."

"Well, we'll...return it to the Cult, I suppose," you shrug.
Yeah, we'll take it back for her. It's the least we could do for what she gave.
"HAIL!" The pelt-wearing one calls out, pulling a huge black stone blade off of her back and planting it in the ground next to her. "The Uxmaegr greet you, scions of the south!"
YES!!!
 
Just... it feels like you bring us into a whole world. And you bring that world alive; it feels like the world is living and vibrant, and it also feels like -- whatever setting it might be, whether Draenor and Dranosh, or Zul'Gurub and Jojo, or Warhammer Fantasy -- it manages to remain true to itself and exemplify the themes and vibes of the setting. You look upon the things in the story and you think, you feel, like "This is a world where the stories and characters appropriate to Warhammer/Warcraft/etc are capable of happening in." The story feels like it does not merely depict a setting, but it feels like it can keep creating stories and heroes and villains of that setting; it does not feel like it merely takes a few mini-stories or characters and plays them out until the energy ends or the mini-story runs out, instead it feels like it builds on itself and to lay the grounds for further life in that setting.

And you manage to take our characters, your characters, and guide them through that setting. Telling their own stories. Interweaving their stories with the stories of the people and places they inhabit. And all the while, managing to nail the themes and genres of the setting you write about, too. Amazing, torroar.

God I really hope that I manage to do that when I get to my original settings and such. I really do. Thank you so much for your in-depth review, it really warms my heart to see it.

... Hey, I wonder... could Sunweaver alter the Light of Summer to work on Natasha as well? Using this deepened soulbond connection between Natasha and Frederick?

Is that something we might think about happening later in the future, when we get back?

Honestly? I don't know. A big part of the Light of Summer is it pulsating with that strongest of seasons for the Wood Elves and transferring something of that rejuvenation and strengthening they benefit from to the bearer. Natasha, by dint of her power and its flavoring, might contrast against it. But then again, never has a soulbond been as it currently is now. So we'll have to see. I'll definitely have to think on it.
 
but I digress back to the original topic , Manann can 100% intervene in the affairs of his church because it is where he has the most influence because it is part of the magical infrastructure that lets him project influence across the old world
Yes, this is of course why Mannan didn't just pop into the heads of his priests and tell them to knock it off, rather Magdah lashing herself to a ship, interpreted the sign of not being swept out to see as an indicator that she had to do something went in and started murdering people.

"Magical infrastructure" is an entirely nebulous term and a gigantic assumption as to how this stuff works, both on the people end and the divine end. Cause as a more fundamental problem you're assuming Mannan the mercurial god of the sea and storms has the interest to intervene regularly in the affairs of the church, doubly when he's demonstrated great willingness to randomly kill them.

I will not deny that Mannan, if interested, can absolutely intervene in his church with great ease, but god-mortal communication seemingly is not easy and it doesn't come without cost on both ends, cost that the god absolutely has to keep in mind, since a message to a follower may mean a miracle not getting done elsewhere.

Is it frustrating that this is the set up? Yes and its a general sign of the many many many problems humans (and everyone not chaos) have in general, but its the play book we have and unfortunately the empire is the most primitive place in the world when it comes to magic of all kinds so that shit ain't getting fixed soon.
 
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Oh yeah, vote

[X] Remain With Frederick von Hohenzollern As Main Perspective And Choice/Control Going Forward. This will involve the Warband cobbled together out of freed slaves, a number of heroes, and Norsca.

Let's fucking gooooooo!
 
[X] Switch to Magnus von Hohenzollern As Main Perspective And Choice/Control Going Forward. This will involve Talabecland, and possibly other locations in the Empire, with Magnus at the head of the troops of Ostland and potentially others as the case may be.

Voting for this for a few reasons-

Firstly, while I adore Freddy, a change of perspective would be nice.

Secondly, the image of him showing back up to Magnus with his troops is hilarious.

Thirdly, so the vote isn't onesided.
 
[X] Remain With Frederick von Hohenzollern As Main Perspective And Choice/Control Going Forward. This will involve the Warband cobbled together out of freed slaves, a number of heroes, and Norsca.
 
So, just got to looking at story lengths. Apparently Torroar just dropped an update that's the equivalent to 90% of the first Harry Potter book in wordcount, in one go.

Absolute madman, I loved every second of that read
 
[X] Switch to Magnus von Hohenzollern As Main Perspective And Choice/Control Going Forward. This will involve Talabecland, and possibly other locations in the Empire, with Magnus at the head of the troops of Ostland and potentially others as the case may be.
 
Like everyone else said, this update is insane and I love it, i know i'm gonna have to reread it a dozen times to properly find everything that happened.

That said i love how the big fight between Hultressa and Alyssa was more of a smackdown, Hultressa never lost the upper hand just contantly smacking down everything her former sister tried with little to no trouble. The natural conclusion of someone who grew from her trauma against one who was consumed by it.

That said Torroar writes so well I found myself mourning, not Alyssa but the sister Hultressa lost, the elf she could have been, despite everything she did.
 
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