As for the other thing, your school is a combination effort. They are Engineers and Gunners, relatively speaking. Gunnery and Engineering, as it were. It would not be impossible to further develop it, however, and split off a secondary school that is purely to train up just gun teams, but you still require engineers in the army to help maintain and repair the more esoteric tech, like the Doomspheres, the Wing-Suits, the volley cannons, and the bigguns. But standard dash and Imperial Great Cannons could be staffed with purely gunnery trained teams.
What we may need to consider are Technicians. Having a distinct cut bettwen specialists and generalist as well as developers and reserchers.
Much of it would be internal diffisions and have no bearing outside of school. But by cuting down needed knowledge and training to what is needed for assigment might not only increase avaible personell, but alse elvate the already existing personel witin military. Sure we need actuall engeneers for big scale repairs. But maintenace and small repairs is something soldiers were figuring out across time. Simply making it official would add some idle manpower some purpose.
Warrant officers perhaps. dunno.
And while school is a combination effort. it does fall in the trap of technolgy interconnectivity. Sooner or later we will have technical workers with very narrow but refined set of skills largly useless outside of their workarea. So while Gunnery and engeeniring would continue to gorw closer as a whole. they would grow elements that do not interact with the other dou to concentrating on their own demesne.
Gun Gunnery and Engeniering engenieers, so to say.

Gotta admit, growing the status of Blue collar workers as a result would be welcomed.
 
A thought occurred to me, Do the defenders at Karak az Karak have contact with the outside world now or are they completely besieged? Could they if they could have called for reinforcements? Yes, I know the beast-tide is about to crest and crash down on the empire, but no one knows that, So the Empire if they could have, might send reinforcements when they are about to have a great need for them to fight off the beast tide.
 
A thought occurred to me, Do the defenders at Karak az Karak have contact with the outside world now or are they completely besieged? Could they if they could have called for reinforcements? Yes, I know the beast-tide is about to crest and crash down on the empire, but no one knows that, So the Empire if they could have, might send reinforcements when they are about to have a great need for them to fight off the beast tide.

Gyrocopters man. Most of them were damaged or destroyed, but they still have them.
 
As it is, better to presume that we aren't getting any reinforcements nor would they be able to call them since the entire area around Karaz az Karak is swarmed with greenskin for miles.

We're gonna have to beat off the beast tide on our lonesome.

Good thing (Or bad thing) is, if Gunthar wanted a chance to prove and make a name of himself, this is also his best chance. Since Freddy and Magnus isn't here.
 
As for the Meet itself, things peter out soon after. There is little to discuss. After a short while it is adjourned until the next day, even while the sun remains high in the sky. The Ar-Ulric, Kron, stares distrustfully at the Sigmarites, as is his purview at seeing one he respected in battle being so accused, but he can do little else. One more time do Stephan and Ortrud attempt to persuade you against your course, but they fail as well. A strange mix of melancholy and fury has suffused you, reaching a state of almost tranquility despite your anger. Your arms and armor are sent back to your manse, and you accompany the Grand Theogonist, both Arch-Lectors, a new Witch Hunter General whose name you do not know, a woman named Anya, the Emperor, and several other highly prominent Priests of Sigmar present in Nuln. This auspicious group guides you down into the depths of the Temple of Sigmar, the current greatest of its kind in the Empire, the same one which you unintentionally spewed bile upon during your last visit to the city. Though you do put on a brave face, you take a nice long fortifying drink of both Bugman's Best and ostka before…things begin.
Who's Anya?
 
As it is, better to presume that we aren't getting any reinforcements nor would they be able to call them since the entire area around Karaz az Karak is swarmed with greenskin for miles.

We're gonna have to beat off the beast tide on our lonesome.

Good thing (Or bad thing) is, if Gunthar wanted a chance to prove and make a name of himself, this is also his best chance. Since Freddy and Magnus isn't here.
Gunthar's right hand man was a vampire. He'll be looking for allies and reconciliation if anything.
 
Guntar is pridefull, but he probably would bite the bullet if he deems necessary to save the empire.

It helps he probably would be working with magnus and not freddy.
 
Regina Leitdorf Granted Knighthood: It is undeniable, now, after many a battle before the leaders of the Empire, that Regina Leitdorf is truly a skilled and powerful warrior. She has led men and women in battle against nightmares without flinching. Against beasts small and large. She has fought greenskins, living and dead, and was present at the Shattering of Castle Drakenhof, having confronted daemons and their slaves. Her loyalty is impeccable. Her skills in combat some of the best in the Empire. Her aunt is Anya Leitdorf, a Witch Hunter General known for her unyielding will and unrelenting pursuit of the enemies of the Empire who try to hide in the shadows. She was deemed through deed and valor more than worthy enough to join the ranks of the Knights of the Fiery Heart, the personal guardians of Sigmar's Temple in Altdorf and Nuln, as well as the personal guard of the Grand Theogonist. Having acted as the champion of the army more than once, even the intractable Graf Bildhofen openly boasted of her prowess as a sign of the Empire's continuing greatness as a hero. She now accompanies the Grand Theogonist wherever he goes.

Also Regina's aunt.
 
you know I have been looking at Outlands arsenal and I realized that the death spinners reminds me of once seven from Battle of the five armies


View: https://youtu.be/_kvjKaTqX4c?si=Rnrz5XnVRaXocd6q

Specifically 1:03

And it got me thinking, a lot of our enemies use bows and crossbows, so why don't we modify the death spinners to be launched at our enemies destroying volleys of arrows and when it lands slicing apart formations. Yes it wouldn't work so well against firearms, but it would still be a devastating artillery weapon nonetheless.
 
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Karaz-a-Karak is, on a technical level, not cut off from the outside world.

Effectively, tactically, and strategically, they are massively cut off.

The hangar bay was badly damaged, and with constant greenskin pressure, actually repairing it has proven exceedingly difficult. Additionally, many of the qualified pilots were killed, and dwarfs aren't going to send a mere beardling out on a gyrocopter. With them continually doing penny packet invading, the hangar's ability to project air power is largely cut off. And with it, the ability to send gyrocopters out and about. On the other hand, the lower hand, the Deeps are under assault at all of the Gates of the Deep, aka the various egresses from which the Underway connects and directs out into the greater underworld realm from Karaz-a-Karak. The loss of the nexus at Karak Eight Peaks was considerable, but it is undeniable that the Everpeak, being the Everpeak, has a considerable nexus itself. Masses of night goblins and trolls and other orcs who could be cajoled into it are laying siege, and while it is nowhere near the level of pressure and violence as the fighting going on up above, they are being badly pressed. Technically, an expeditionary sally is possible, and has been used multiple times already, to punish the greenskins when they were growing too lax in their fighting, and therefore it is possible to sally out, beat a hole open, and thrust a messenger party through to go sprinting out to another hold, but at last reports, many of the great Holds are under siege from below by other night goblins, skaven, trolls, and in one case an undead force being led by an undetermined necromancer against Karak Ziflin. So aid from them is not liable to be swiftly coming.

It has thus far been judged the cost in lives to sally out in such a manner is not worth it, given the actual likelihood of aid actually returning in any swift measure.
 
Gunthar's right hand man was a vampire. He'll be looking for allies and reconciliation if anything.
That is not the case. He was openly mocking and derisive towards us in the Meets after he learned of said vampire. What he is doing, is at best not being 110% aggressive and just pretend he never had such an advisor. If he's looking for allies and reconciliation he's had plenty of time to do a 180 and failed to show any signs of it as far the Northern Trident is concerned. Which honesty makes sense. He and his bitch wife are very prideful and to change their tune would be to admit wrongdoing to themselves.

you know I have been looking at Outlands arsenal and I realized that the death spinners reminds me of once seven from Battle of the five armies


View: https://youtu.be/_kvjKaTqX4c?si=Rnrz5XnVRaXocd6q

Specifically 1:03

And it got me thinking, a lot of our enemies use bows and crossbows, so why don't we modify the death spinners to be launched at our enemies destroying volleys of arrows and when it lands slicing apart formations. Yes it wouldn't work so well against firearms, but it would still be a devastating artillery weapon nonetheless.

Too big and heavy, not aerodynamic, can't be reliably aimed.
 
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and in one case an undead force being led by an undetermined necromancer against Karak Ziflin

Please Kemler!
Please, we don't need Proto-Negash adding to the deluge.

Go attack Karak Eight Peaks while the Orcs have Emptied it.
Raid a Skaven city because you've learned that they specifically are the race that would try to stop you from ascending as Nagash nearly did.
Get into a fight with the beastmen, because they're hiding in the same location as a book of Nagash.
Anything!

You're not allied with these people.
Please Kemler, let Destruction infight at least a little bit!
It happens all the time, destruction factions often hate other destruction factions more

...
That said, the Kemler omakes were really fun, so it would be interesting to get another look at him.
 
you know I have been looking at Outlands arsenal and I realized that the death spinners reminds me of once seven from Battle of the five armies


View: https://youtu.be/_kvjKaTqX4c?si=Rnrz5XnVRaXocd6q

Specifically 1:03

And it got me thinking, a lot of our enemies use bows and crossbows, so why don't we modify the death spinners to be launched at our enemies destroying volleys of arrows and when it lands slicing apart formations. Yes it wouldn't work so well against firearms, but it would still be a devastating artillery weapon nonetheless.


Welcome my dude to the Air Clearing Artillery Lobby, where Tor has already hashed this one out:
Well, we could always take a cue from the dawi gyrocopter- hey remember the one time I said that



turn's out that taking yourself off of the equation and specifically in this case, everything but the spinning choppers would be a good idea for an anti- air war machine.





That is some radically dumb sounding thing of a bolt thrower ammo.

100% something that could be possible with Drunk Tech and general Warhammer-ish-ness.

here
 
Too big and heavy, not aerodynamic, can't be reliably aimed

You don't actually need to "aim" it per say: Just have the engineers form up a formation plan so that when the bolts fire, the blades that fan out maximise cover to foil incoming projectiles aimed at our army formation:

Purpose? At best: Shredding "small" projectiles, deflecting "big" projectiles from reaching our men. As a bonus, when they do land, the bolts disrupt enemy ranks by the sheer mass they displace upon crashing down.

The Catch? They need to be timed to enemy volley fire: The moment the assigned spotter sees the sky begin to darken with projectiles; is the moment that they have to decide then and there if it's worth expending the ammo to nullify that volley.

Also, you can't use them willy nilly once the battle lines have been met. Best used before our forces meet the enemy in the scrum.
 
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Part of the issue that Karaz a Karak is the very nature of their foe. Based off of what has been said about the Everpeak campaign so far, there is a bigger orc, one who is the true warboss on the way. The other's downright stated that he was finishing his work in the East before coming to smash them. Their foe as long as leadership survives won't break, and they thrive off conflict so 3 million dead for a single wall is no problem. The idiots should have been tougher and tripped someone to take the blow for them.

This part is entirely conjecture based off a number of hints offered by Torroar in the story so far. The final Orc boss was going to be the ulitmate tool, the blackest orc enslaved to a daemon the Dawi-Zharr bound to him like we saw in Karak Ungor. The one who's name escapes me was the "proof of concept" so to speak. Considering the huge numbers that would normally be busy fighting and dying in the east and the signs Logan saw around the camp. I think it is possible that this Orc actually succeeded in leading a slave revolt against the Chaos dwarfs, He took their tools and enslaved them to use them on his behalf. Essentially I imagine this confrontation will be like Sigmar's, or the battle of the howling hills. This will make or break the powers of the World's edge mountains.
 
This make me wonder how fucked the Chorfs would been because they would be closer of this super orc.

Outside of it to the east the only thing that have a presence this side of the warpstone desert is skavenbright and we would not be so lucky.
 
That is not the case. He was openly mocking and derisive towards us in the Meets after he learned of said vampire. What he is doing, is at best not being 110% aggressive and just pretend he never had such an advisor. If he's looking for allies and reconciliation he's had plenty of time to do a 180 and failed to show any signs of it as far the Northern Trident is concerned. Which honesty makes sense. He and his bitch wife are very prideful and to change their tune would be to admit wrongdoing to themselves.
The Empire is strong because it stands together.
Acting like you can solo the world gets you eaten by skaven, vampires, beastides or raided by Druchii.
Orcs will probably turn you into a speedbump if they bother with you at all.

I pray he doesn't get himself eaten..... okay. Maybe a bite or a nibble. He doesn't need his left nut right?
 
The Empire is strong because it stands together.
Acting like you can solo the world gets you eaten by skaven, vampires, beastides or raided by Druchii.
Orcs will probably turn you into a speedbump if they bother with you at all.

I pray he doesn't get himself eaten..... okay. Maybe a bite or a nibble. He doesn't need his left nut right?
Are you, disagreeing or saying that it's gonna cost him even more if he keeps being who he is?
 
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