If, and this is a massive if, an Imperial Zoo really was created, it is possible that terrorghiests could be one of the exhibited animals. There'd just have to be work done to, like, sever their vocal cords or something. You don't want them randomly doing the super shriek thing what can paralyze trained Bretonnian warhorses and such. And while GW does say 'oh ho ho, they go and scoop up horses and what not for their warm tasty blood' they don't say 'and then they abandon the drained meat and bones'. And if they aren't explicitly denying that, then I see no reason to not say they don't also consume that stuff after they drain the blood.

Look, they're clearly somewhat intelligent, though dumber than gryphons or whatever. But if gryphons are allowed to 'prefer' their food alive, warm, and preferably screaming, then Terrorgheists can prefer to drink lots of warm blood and also then the other stuff.
Thats actually really neat. Honestly, bats are a neat, sometimes very familial creature. Makes sense that their reputation would be spoiled by vampires, and they would otherwise be relatively normal animal outside of few quirks.
 
Oh yeah, you are not GW your stuff makse sence.
Yeah you are right, too bad we could not get them trough it would be an hard sell on silvania.
We could probably talk to Ava von Krieglitz about the potential of getting a Terrorgheist air force attempted, or have Freddy try to import some Terrorgheists into the MM for domestic war beast training as a diplomacy option. Freddy is the strange Elector Count that does strange new things, or crazy things, so if there's any problems it would be on his head instead of on Stirland's.

In happier news, I discovered the Indrika, weird earth-vibration causing horse, important to the Ungols. Hopefully they experienced a population boom now that Karak Ungor is under new management.

And QM, why has the thread not seen a Dooming yet when one of our family members turned 10? Do the Hohenzollerns not go through a Dooming? I do not mind the lack of Dooming scene, just curious about why this event that is somewhat Imperial isn't being done by imperial nobility in the view of the thread.

Most I was able to find was QM said the Player Character has had no Dooming done for him.
 
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On the flip side, as long as there's fights to be had and a healer on hand, you're unlikely to run out of food or spare parts for a flying predator.
Is not that much an compeling argument when you would burst out flying units on once on a decade battles while most of the the time theu would be eating at your resources, and honestly ho would not send spare part to prolonged deployments, airships always where treated as the most elite forces on a army? Those things are pamepered.
 
I have the hilarious, terrifying and adorable (scaredorable) image of a terrorgeist wringing blood out of a horse like a half-wet sponge. Its just gotta get that last drop.

Those things are probably just faster at metabolizing blood. Its like chugging a redbull but if it sat down and ate the rest of the horse its going to have to find somewhere to nap while it digests.
 
And QM, why has the thread not seen a Dooming yet when one of our family members turned 10? Do the Hohenzollerns not go through a Dooming? I do not mind the lack of Dooming scene, just curious about why this event that is somewhat Imperial isn't being done by imperial nobility in the view of the thread.
Wasan't Dooming kinda arbitrary and not necessary to people be important trough?
 
Is not that much an compeling argument when you would burst out flying units on once on a decade battles while most of the the time theu would be eating at your resources, and honestly ho would not send spare part to prolonged deployments, airships always where treated as the most elite forces on a army? Those things are pamepered.

The thing is, this is Ostland. We're always using Oskana, because there's always something that needs to die, at a rate that would spike the maintenance rate for an actual vehicle- which aren't normally designed for non stop deployments for decades with only weeks in between.

(At least, the IRL ones aren't, but we'd need to account for that too if we make our own, I suppose.)

Additionally, while we're fighting suppression actions in our own territory we'd have all the spare parts we'd need, but if we're heading out abroad not needing spare parts to keep our Air Force in the air sounds invaluable.

Edit: Finally, flying predators like Oskana serves an extra function in being super combatants in their own right, and is much much better at striking other things out of the sky. An airship is a better fighting platform, but I wouldn't take one to duel a dragon.
 
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Additionally, while we're fighting suppression actions in our own territory we'd have all the spare parts we'd need, but if we're heading out abroad not needing spare parts to keep our Air Force in the air sounds invaluable.
Er... You understand that a plane is not a gryphon, like we would not use them the same way, think on more WW1 to 2 planes, bombing runs and ocasional dogfights against airborne enemies, a gryphon is more like an atack helicopter.
Sufice to say We would not let the planes be on the frontlines and more a specialized bomber and anti air, Aftherall we do not use the tank to just go out there and kill things.
 
Wasan't Dooming kinda arbitrary and not necessary to people be important trough?
On the wiki Dooming is an important event in an Imperial's life. It is very much an Imperial tradition by Karl Franz's time, and came from the Imperials. At the age of 10 the imperial is taken to somebody and told how they will die. Different provinces add different customs to it, but that's about it.

I got interested in searching the thread about the Doomings because I distantly remember "His Dooming said the gods will watch him die". I thought it was for Freddy, but it may have been Arthur, and I cannot find the spot where it was said. Arthur being a Morrite not doing a Dooming for his kids is possible, but it is a Imperial tradition, and Ostermarkers do the Doomings in this BIG elaborate show and dance, while Averland is very humble about it.
 
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Er... You understand that a plane is not a gryphon, like we would not use them the same way, think on more WW1 to 2 planes, bombing runs and ocasional dogfights against airborne enemies, a gryphon is more like an atack helicopter.
Sufice to say We would not let the planes be on the frontlines and more a specialized bomber and anti air, Aftherall we do not use the tank to just go out there and kill things.

Well, yes.
But between a mechanical Air Force and a living one, I'd still prefer the living one if we could realistically acquire it, and at that point it's hard to justify getting a second.

Additionally, this started out with comparing a plane to a grypphon, so the contrast is somewhat the point.
 
And QM, why has the thread not seen a Dooming yet when one of our family members turned 10? Do the Hohenzollerns not go through a Dooming? I do not mind the lack of Dooming scene, just curious about why this event that is somewhat Imperial isn't being done by imperial nobility in the view of the thread.

Natasha never had one because Kislev largely didn't give a shit about Morr, and every child born pre-Vampire War wasn't really approached by Morrite priests either, and were past that point for a while. After Arthur got into Morrite stuff, he asked and literally no one in the family has said yes to it yet.

Mostly because almost everyone in the family is firmly convinced that they don't need a Dooming to tell them how they'll die, because the absolute most likely cause is death in battle. Or, if you're Karola, you're just absolutely terrified by the concept of it all and doesn't want to hear it. Private Doomings were heard for Arthur's family, but they were generally private affairs. Doomsayers were rare in Ostland, like in the Averland entry, so elders mostly did it. That's changed post-Vampire War, but that sort of priestly re-integration into annual life takes a lot of time, and by that point the family was mostly grown up past the need for it. And you don't have the Reikland version of 'hey I see a kid around the right age HEY HERE'S HOW YOU'RE GOING TO DIE' wandering Doomsayers. Nor do you have a big celebration like in Nordland.

Ostland was the depressed, drink when you're happy and drink when you're sad sort of thing, the most common Doomings in Ostland for the last 2000 years are things like 'the bottle is your death'/'you will die in sorrow'/'the darkness shall be your end'/'violent and painful shall your death be'/Narlog shall have his due/ and so on and so forth. And it would usually be a single, drunken Doomsayer amidst a group of drunken adults with some scared children. In fact, I'll say here and now spontaneously that the Ostland Dooming Ceremony is when Ostland children are allowed to start drinking, because you get told life sucks you'll die bad and here's your first big beer welcome to life in our province.

Ostland's changed a lot, but not utterly. Most Doomings are still generally going to slide towards: Hey, you're gonna die some day, either from booze or violence'. You know, just like everyone else."
 
Terrorgheists are omnivores, not hemovores. They're just way too big for them to only drink blood, a single one would be draining a village at a time, practically. No, they eat meat of all kinds, and occasionally vegetation.
So Fell Bats and Terrorgheists are possible to be taken and tamed by the empire or put into small private zoo/menageries are there still inough in Mountain caves

i dont know about the rest of you but i sure want to steal a weapon/resource from the blood parasites
 
Ostland's changed a lot, but not utterly. Most Doomings are still generally going to slide towards: Hey, you're gonna die some day, either from booze or violence'. You know, just like everyone else."
So typical Imperial death.:p

Do Doomings have their place in the Order of the Garden or are they just that thing that just happens that they accept even if they don't agree with it?
 
So Fell Bats and Terrorgheists are possible to be taken and tamed by the empire or put into small private zoo/menageries are there still inough in Mountain caves

i dont know about the rest of you but i sure want to steal a weapon/resource from the blood parasites
I wouldn't be surprised if bats have a very bad reputation in places like Ostland and Stirland.

Especially considering the recent 4th Vampire War.
 
But between a mechanical Air Force and a living one, I'd still prefer the living one if we could realistically acquire it, and at that point it's hard to justify getting a second.
Honestly i neiter see the need or the oppen niche that something like pegasi chavarely would have in our forces, what we need is stuff to take down dragons or another heavy flying units with meaningfull range capabilities, an pegassi knight get a lot of lead anyways. Oskana is a cool mount to a hero unit not an army unity
 
I would really like to see the average Ostlander thinks of Freddy. He has taken his kingdom from being afraid to murdering everything that gets in his way. Poverty is lower and their are defenses everywhere he can put them down. Now instead of things in the Forrest to be afraid of it is just being afraid of invaders from outside. Their count is one of the most famous men alive and a pier of Magnus the pious. He brought also prestige, wealth and safety.
 
Here's a thought for an airforce: hot air balloons with alcohol bombs and/or crossbows. Maybe repeating crossbows if we can reverse-engineer those from the Druchi for the proper rain of death.
 
I would really like to see the average Ostlander thinks of Freddy. He has taken his kingdom from being afraid to murdering everything that gets in his way. Poverty is lower and their are defenses everywhere he can put them down. Now instead of things in the Forrest to be afraid of it is just being afraid of invaders from outside. Their count is one of the most famous men alive and a pier of Magnus the pious. He brought also prestige, wealth and safety.
Ostland Peasants: 8/10 (Well, he's better than most!)
Before we upturned the province with our unified law it was adoration.
 
Here's a thought for an airforce: hot air balloons with alcohol bombs and/or crossbows. Maybe repeating crossbows if we can reverse-engineer those from the Druchi for the proper rain of death.
Air balloons are too static against a wyvern, a dragon, or a manticore. They'd be great against those with no living air force, but... only gyrocopters really have any form of decent agility in the skies as machines.

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Ostland Nobility: 7/10 (He's all right.)
Ostland Peasants: 10/10 (Savior of the Province!)
Ostland Witch Hunter Chapter: 6/10 (...)
 
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Honestly, when it comes to a theoretical airforce, we have to consider our technical restrictions just as much as our cultural/economic ones.

I'm not sure how we would outfit an airplane (already a rather large R&D investment) in such a way that we wouldn't run into the exact same issue hurting dragons and the like that we have with our ground cannons. Now I could be missing something, but should that be the case then we'd still want units that could, and monster cav seems the best option.

Ideally, I think, we'd have a small cadre of heavy monster cav to drop on folks and fight heavy hitters, and a larger airforce for bombing runs and dogfights with harpies and the like
 
Well they named the forest after them after all. And all living adults there probably recall that the forest was even more dangerous in the past that now.
 
I'm not sure how we would outfit an airplane (already a rather large R&D investment) in such a way that we wouldn't run into the exact same issue hurting dragons and the like that we have with our ground cannons. Now I could be missing something, but should that be the case then we'd still want units that could, and monster cav seems the best option.
The best thinh i can think of is if we can study the cannon on the steam tanks an ofuit something like this on pur plane the ammunition would probably have to be an explosive harpoon that send srapnel on the creature insides. Or maybe you have more than one person on the plane and the gunner can lunch an mini doomsphere from a cannon (we have that project). But yeah sufice to say it would not be something for next turn.
 
Furthermore, here is a regular real life human getting hit by a cannonball at close range
I feel compelled to observe, whenever that video is brought up, that we don't know how much actual powder was loaded into that cannon.

Withstanding a cannonball hitting you in the belly at 40 mph is a lot different from withstanding one hitting you at 400 mph, and when you're standing ten feet away from the muzzle, the cannonball won't look all that different to a crowd of bystanders either way.

This isn't a general negation of anything that's actually your point, to be clear, but if I wanted to look insanely badass at a circus or something, I might just try an act like "get shot in belly by deceptively slow cannonball."
 
Honestly, when it comes to a theoretical airforce, we have to consider our technical restrictions just as much as our cultural/economic ones.

I'm not sure how we would outfit an airplane (already a rather large R&D investment) in such a way that we wouldn't run into the exact same issue hurting dragons and the like that we have with our ground cannons. Now I could be missing something, but should that be the case then we'd still want units that could, and monster cav seems the best option.

Ideally, I think, we'd have a small cadre of heavy monster cav to drop on folks and fight heavy hitters, and a larger airforce for bombing runs and dogfights with harpies and the like
So small groups of hippogryps and Terrorgheists for the big guys and Fell Bats for the small ones

heck we all talked about dragons gryphons hippogryps pegasii Terrorgheists and fell bats

but not one word about giant eagles or wyverns what about those 2?
 
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