Warhammer Fantasy: A Dynasty of Dynamic Alcoholism

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[X] Yes: This is a chance to salve the wounds that Natasha takes every time you go out to battle. To ease her mind is worth much.
[X] Bedrock: The greatest possible magnitude of this proposed bond, emotions can be more freely felt and shared, as well as more defined distance and direction. Only the elves with the truest and strongest love ever made this choice in the distant past.
 
[X] Yes: This is a chance to salve the wounds that Natasha takes every time you go out to battle. To ease her mind is worth much.
[X] Bedrock: The greatest possible magnitude of this proposed bond, emotions can be more freely felt and shared, as well as more defined distance and direction. Only the elves with the truest and strongest love ever made this choice in the distant past.
 
[X] Yes: This is a chance to salve the wounds that Natasha takes every time you go out to battle. To ease her mind is worth much.
[X] Subsoil: The middle tier, truly strong emotions might pass through the bond, as well as a vague sense of direction but no real scale of distance. A method of some Saphery mothers started in the era before Malekith to keep watch on more unruly children.
 
[X] Yes: This is a chance to salve the wounds that Natasha takes every time you go out to battle. To ease her mind is worth much.
[X] The Flowers Above: Let Natasha choose. Whichever she chooses, you will accept. This is something that she did not expect, but seems interested in, enough that you are sure she'll make the right choice. The right choice being whichever choice she makes, that is.
 
[X] Yes: This is a chance to salve the wounds that Natasha takes every time you go out to battle. To ease her mind is worth much.
[X] Subsoil: The middle tier, truly strong emotions might pass through the bond, as well as a vague sense of direction but no real scale of distance. A method of some Saphery mothers started in the era before Malekith to keep watch on more unruly children.

For what little my vote will mean. Once again, here goes Frederick throwing caution and commonality to the wind, going big when he doesn't have to or even should. I'd say High Risk - High Reward, but I don't even see this as a reward. This is...total tele-empathy. That's...I don't feel comfortable with it. Not to mention what others will think of it. There's always a price, and I just don't feel it will be worth it.
 
[X] Yes: This is a chance to salve the wounds that Natasha takes every time you go out to battle. To ease her mind is worth much.
[X] The Flowers Above: Let Natasha choose. Whichever she chooses, you will accept. This is something that she did not expect, but seems interested in, enough that you are sure she'll make the right choice. The right choice being whichever choice she makes, that is.
 
Hmm, may I ask the thread to provide me with some reasoning behind their votes? Those that haven't already at least? I'm unsure, though I'm set on doing it and it not foisting the choice on Natasha.
 
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[X] Yes: This is a chance to salve the wounds that Natasha takes every time you go out to battle. To ease her mind is worth much.
[X] Subsoil: The middle tier, truly strong emotions might pass through the bond, as well as a vague sense of direction but no real scale of distance. A method of some Saphery mothers started in the era before Malekith to keep watch on more unruly children.
 
[X] Yes: This is a chance to salve the wounds that Natasha takes every time you go out to battle. To ease her mind is worth much.
[X] Subsoil: The middle tier, truly strong emotions might pass through the bond, as well as a vague sense of direction but no real scale of distance. A method of some Saphery mothers started in the era before Malekith to keep watch on more unruly children.

Going with subsoil because it still largely provides a good deal of tactical benefit and it does not overturn everyday human interaction which are very important.
Also, everybody that says yolo about an emotional decision between these two makes me irrationally angry.
 
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Yeah, ok. I don't have enough reasons to choose bedrock, it's cool, but subsoil gets me what I want without entangled emotions. Too much change for a relationship that doesn't need a representation. I also looked for it, but I couldn't find whether it was possible to close the connection. I remember discussion about that, so if someone could confirm I'd be glad. Without that, I can't in good conscience go through with bed rock.


[X] Yes: This is a chance to salve the wounds that Natasha takes every time you go out to battle. To ease her mind is worth much.
[X] Subsoil: The middle tier, truly strong emotions might pass through the bond, as well as a vague sense of direction but no real scale of distance. A method of some Saphery mothers started in the era before Malekith to keep watch on more unruly children.
 
[X] Yes: This is a chance to salve the wounds that Natasha takes every time you go out to battle. To ease her mind is worth much.
 
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flotter said:
I also looked for it, but I couldn't find whether it was possible to close the connection. I remember discussion about that, so if someone could confirm I'd be glad.
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torroar said:
"Can we close it, temporarily. If, as you say, the utterly unexpected occurs and someone attempts to attack us through it. Or if one of us is just…suffering, for some reason, and don't the other to suffer the same."
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torroar said:
"It's possible," Yhanna interrupts before the morbid discussion can go further. "It will require…hmm, practice, however. And it could very well be that it could not be enough should a great enough will forces the matter. That being said, however," the High Spellweaver of all Laurelorn says, "Do you still wish to go forward with this?"
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Temporarily, if practiced. With the possibility of someone forcing it open if they have a strong enough will.
 
[X] Yes: This is a chance to salve the wounds that Natasha takes every time you go out to battle. To ease her mind is worth much.
[X] Bedrock: The greatest possible magnitude of this proposed bond, emotions can be more freely felt and shared, as well as more defined distance and direction. Only the elves with the truest and strongest love ever made this choice in the distant past.

I don't apply cost/benefits analysts to what should be a purely emotional response.
Thus, it is my choice to be the tiny little agent of chaos, one amongst the myriad, to whisper 'go for broke or go home'
That said, I'm completely fine with both topsoil and flowers as well.
 
Somehow, the voters inserted a typo into one of the options -- "love" versus "loves". xD

Gonna need to adjust the tally to correct for that -- fortunately, that's doable, though it took me a bit of finagling to figure out, as it doesn't snap together as easily as I thought. Hit "manage votes" and then do click-and-drag on the votes to consolidate them. (May take a bit of awkward finagling to finally make it 'click' or 'snap' together, but it finally works out.)

[X] Yes: This is a chance to salve the wounds that Natasha takes every time you go out to battle. To ease her mind is worth much.

[X] Bedrock: The greatest possible magnitude of this proposed bond, emotions can be more freely felt and shared, as well as more defined distance and direction. Only the elves with the truest and strongest loves ever made this choice in the distant past.

And now to vote for what I was going to vote for.
 
[X] Yes: This is a chance to salve the wounds that Natasha takes every time you go out to battle. To ease her mind is worth much.
[X] Subsoil: The middle tier, truly strong emotions might pass through the bond, as well as a vague sense of direction but no real scale of distance. A method of some Saphery mothers started in the era before Malekith to keep watch on more unruly children.

As I said before, I don't believe that Bedrock is automatically the most romantic choice, I don't believe that there's a real textual basis for concluding it's the one that Natasha "really wants", and I agree with the people who have noted that being able to take a break from each other is important for any relationship, no matter how loving. You guys remember when Natasha was so mad she didn't even want to talk to us, right? Would that situation really have been improved by removing the ability to step back for a while, or making it so it required attention to keep a bond shut, like having to constantly lean against a door that you wanted to close or it'll open itself again? "The most extreme" is not perforce "the most romantic".

Egh, whatever, barring a huge swing in voting it seems like a foregone conclusion at this point anyway.
 
A love that goes to the bedrock. That's what/why I'm voting for. After torroar's posts about how deeply they meant it, I figured, hell, you know what, let's go for it. (As well as some interest in how it interacts with a stoney soul. And with winter snows covering the earth above. Hmm. Too much metaphor, or simile, but still.)
Fayhem said:
You guys remember when Natasha was so mad she didn't even want to talk to us, right? Would that situation really have been improved by removing the ability to step back for a while, or making it so it required attention to keep a bond shut, like having to constantly lean against a door that you wanted to close or it'll open itself again? "The most extreme" is not perforce "the most romantic".
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Maybe. Or maybe the situation would have been avoided in the first place, as our greater connection would have resulted in us getting psychic impressions of "Natasha is not going to vote to kill her child, you do not have to vote for 'The Flame' out of fear that if you don't, it'll be a big risk of a dead child."

In short, that very same situation might have been maneuvered around and not have happened at all, or not have happened the same way, as Frederick and Natasha would have had better insight into how each other is feeling and/or thinking about it. ((At the time, part of the reasoning given by some voters was "I can't take the risk that Natasha doesn't vote for Flame." Not an argument I really understood myself as, why wouldn't Natasha take the sure chance of testing the kid in the flame rather than the sure chance of death, but, it's something I remembered. Again though; this is just one argument, from some of the voters, and a long time ago.))

Or maybe it still would have happened, and they would have had to deal with having a constant connection while being pissed at each other. Who knows. In which case... maybe having the connection could have led to a faster reconciliation between the two. Because that's also a possibility. Having a connection like that might lead to you taking action and working to take care of problems faster/better.

(Or maybe, amusingly, Natasha and Frederick would have come to the same conclusion at the exact same time, and so would have taken the decision jointly -- part of the conversation taking place via meaningful looks or whatever the bond equivalent of that is -- and so they'd have spoken at the exact same time or made their decision and spoken jointly. (Rather than Freddy being half a second faster than her.))
 
[X] Yes: This is a chance to salve the wounds that Natasha takes every time you go out to battle. To ease her mind is worth much.

[X] The Flowers Above: Let Natasha choose. Whichever she chooses, you will accept. This is something that she did not expect, but seems interested in, enough that you are sure she'll make the right choice. The right choice being whichever choice she makes, that is.
 
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Woltaire said:
[X] Yes: This is a chance to salve the wounds that Natasha takes every time you go out to battle. To ease her mind is worth much.

[X] Subsoil: The middle tier, truly strong emotions might pass through the bond, as well as a vague sense of direction but no real scale of distance. A method of some Saphery mothers started in the era before Malekith to keep watch on more unruly children.

[X] The Flowers Above: Let Natasha choose. Whichever she chooses, you will accept. This is something that she did not expect, but seems interested in, enough that you are sure she'll make the right choice. The right choice being whichever choice she makes, that is.
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Sorry but, approval voting isn't allowed.
 
@Woltaire the GM doesn't like approval voting like that, choose one or none.

On another note, assuming bedrock wins it will be nice to have Freddy and Nat just send their feelings to one another even when far apart like in diplomatic visits, campaigns, what have you. Heck, it might provide bonuses in combat when fighting together as well since Freddy and Nat will be able to feel each other even during the dim of combat and work together more through close thoughts.
 
[X] Yes: This is a chance to salve the wounds that Natasha takes every time you go out to battle. To ease her mind is worth much.


[X] The Flowers Above: Let Natasha choose. Whichever she chooses, you will accept. This is something that she did not expect, but seems interested in, enough that you are sure she'll make the right choice. The right choice being whichever choice she makes, that is.

I'm undecided. What happens if one perishes on max bond?
 
LordOfPears12 said:
[X] Yes: This is a chance to salve the wounds that Natasha takes every time you go out to battle. To ease her mind is worth much.


[X] The Flowers Above: Let Natasha choose. Whichever she chooses, you will accept. This is something that she did not expect, but seems interested in, enough that you are sure she'll make the right choice. The right choice being whichever choice she makes, that is.

I'm undecided. What happens if one perishes on max bond?
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Presumably the same thing that happens to people who loose someone they care deeply about: they die of heartbreak shortly after. But they care enough that I'm pretty sure if one dies the other will avenge the other or die trying even without the bond.
 
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