To be fair, the votes seem to heavily favor saying nothing, which I am in full support of.People don't seem to care considering they are still voting for sage's terrible speech after all the issues with it has been pointed it out.
No. That doesn't make us more pleasant. It makes us sound like an idiot and an ass. Your vote is pretty much designed to fuck us over in several different ways. And when called out on that you pretty much go it's not that. It's the ale talking. Which means you made it like that on purpose.
When the flaws were pointed out you proceeded to blame them on the ale fredrick is drinking. That to me sounded like you intentionally put them in. Sorry if I missunderstood what you meant.Why would I ever strive to fuck people over? Please, you've pointed out the inherent flaws in my speech so let me address them and don't assume I'm a bad person because I didn't get my way in terms of not accepting the Imperial Triumph.
The speech is meant to, entirely, say that Frederick is as much fault as Victor. 'We' addresses all the people, including us. Essentially, we considered Magnus' words and are striving to change that. Magnus spoke to us, we relayed why we didn't change, and essentially thought it over and decided to at least promise military aid when necessary.
The last part is a simple promise, that we will commit a Personal Action , whenever an Elector Meet is occurring.
I did not write that speech with any intent whatsoever, to harm our quest.
And doing nothing will just keep the problem perpetuating. Every time the issue between the two provinces has been brought up its the bridge that is the first problem that is mentioned. Address this issue as it seems to be a sticking point to further agreements and discussions. I'm not advocating doing anything over the top, but politics isn't about who is in the right about something, but about making compromises and working out issues. Sometimes you have to give a little to gain something.No the big problem is that the nobles of Hochland constantly fuck us over and act offended when we try to due joint projects with them. They make us do all the work and then try to claim it for themselves.
Seems like it's just asking for our character to screw it up, just like the last time we tried a clever write-in for a diplomacy option.
Molyneux, every time we try they refuse to meet us half way and proceed to dick us over. Fredrick even said that.And doing nothing will just keep the problem perpetuating. Every time the issue between the two provinces has been brought up its the bridge that is the first problem that is mentioned. Address this issue as it seems to be a sticking point to further agreements and discussions. I'm not advocating doing anything over the top, but politics isn't about who is in the right about something, but about making compromises and working out issues. Sometimes you have to give a little to gain something.
Point of order: It was not a clever write in. It was the most unclever. If it had been a clever write in, I would have written it as such. I wrote exactly what was voted for: Gib me your citizens plz.
Whoa, hold on there. It's one thing to say 'your write-in would make things worse'. It's quite another to say 'you're deliberately trying to screw us over'.No. That doesn't make us more pleasant. It makes us sound like an idiot and an ass. Your vote is pretty much designed to fuck us over in several different ways. And when called out on that you pretty much go it's not that. It's the ale talking. Which means you made it like that on purpose.
He proceeded to blame it on the ale that fredrick was drinking. The issues with his write in that is. So it looked like he was trying to screw us over deliberately by rping that Fredrick was making a mistake due to the ale that he drank. I apologized after being told he wasn't.Whoa, hold on there. It's one thing to say 'your write-in would make things worse'. It's quite another to say 'you're deliberately trying to screw us over'.
I must have missed the turns when "WE" have engaged Hochland in any diplomatic discussion about any deals and they then proceeded to fuck us over with. The issue is an old one that started a long time ago and since we have been the Elector Count we have had sweet fuck all to do with them. Freddy's father had a rivalry going with Nordland, but we have worked on that, admittedly coming to their aid really did help with that, but the point is that just because an old grudge exists there is no reason that we can work on improving the situation. Their Elector Count may want to skin us alive at the moment and may not be willing to work with us at the moment, and if that is the case then so be it, but if we continue to just go fuck'em they don't like us any way and pursue actions that are actively detrimental to them, then don't be surprised if they start actively working against us in some manner. Then of course people will be jumping up and down demanding that we go and punch him in the face, because how dare he not see the brilliance of what we are doing and simply fall in line like everyone else.Molyneux, every time we try they refuse to meet us half way and proceed to dick us over. Fredrick even said that.
We've had zero opportunities to interact with Hochland until this Meet, so please don't talk like we've been ignoring them from the start.I must have missed the turns when "WE" have engaged Hochland in any diplomatic discussion about any deals and they then proceeded to fuck us over with. The issue is an old one that started a long time ago and since we have been the Elector Count we have had sweet fuck all to do with them. Freddy's father had a rivalry going with Nordland, but we have worked on that, admittedly coming to their aid really did help with that, but the point is that just because an old grudge exists there is no reason that we can work on improving the situation. Their Elector Count may want to skin us alive at the moment and may not be willing to work with us at the moment, and if that is the case then so be it, but if we continue to just go fuck'em they don't like us any way and pursue actions that are actively detrimental to them, then don't be surprised if they start actively working against us in some manner. Then of course people will be jumping up and down demanding that we go and punch him in the face, because how dare he not see the brilliance of what we are doing and simply fall in line like everyone else.
This however is not what I had actually asked in the other post. Does anyone have any other ideas on how we could improve relations with Hochland?
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This however is not what I had actually asked in the other post. Does anyone have any other ideas on how we could improve relations with Hochland?
he was being sarcastic due to Nightblade saying that the houchland nobles have screwed us even thou this is the first time we have met themWe've had zero opportunities to interact with Hochland until this Meet, so please don't talk like we've been ignoring them from the start.